When did the "Urals are the borders of Europe" meme start...

When did the "Urals are the borders of Europe" meme start? In my mind anything past this red line is the Eurasian steppe.

Thats pretty dumb cause the steppe starts way further in the west in ukraine.

Wut?

>ukraine
whats that?

Why are Urals even relevant? Seems like it's just so Russians can larp as Europeans

Ok fine forget the word steppe. Central Eurasia starts beyond that line

Your line represents no geographical barrier that would separate one place from another geographically

I think of Europe as a peninsula of Eurasia so I don't need mountains or rivers to mark the border not all peninsulas have them

The Elbe is the true border of Europe, beyond it are mongoloid hordes

The original borders of Europe were either the Caucasus or the river Don, according to the Greeks.

Dunno. Personally I think Europe stops at the Volga river.

Europe ends at Elbe. Slavs aren't European.

>g*rmans
>european
Past the Rhine or Rhone and you've gone too far.

Indo-European speakers won't accept an Asian origin for themselves

What about the Indo part of the Indo-European. They accept themselves as Asian.

>anything North of the Alps or South of the Pyrenees
>Europe
Just stop.

That's where the Huns invaded from.

Because Huns are asians, they divide the line there.

Huns invaded from China

Go be dum somewhere else

>Balkans
>white
top kek

Are you retarded or pretending?

Huns were not from Europe. They were fighting the Han before migrating to Europe.

>real Europeans
>white
lmao

We're not discussing Xiongnu. We're discussing Huns.

The west only knows the Huns to be from Urals.

Don't confuse your own knowledge as the knowledge of the people in the context.

Prove that Huns were Ugric

>Anything past thgis line is eurasian steppe
>Draws line through the middle of a steppe
Literally all of these lines make as much sense as yours.
People use the urals as the border cause they are the only thing of any significance east of poland.

Good thing the Elbe isn't a border between Slav and Germanic then

I guess Milan Genoa and Venice are not really a part of italy then.

Russians have nothing to do with it, Urals were considered a boundary of Europe by German cartographers. And Caucasus mountains were considered a boundary ever since Alexander the Great.

Ural mountains aren't steppe, they are fucking mountains.

Padania isn't just a meme after all

he never said they are/aren't?

The Indo part of Indo-Europeans are also hard at work denying that they came from the steppe at all and would rather have you believe that all Indo-European languages are poorly articulated Sanskrit.

>Naples
>Bari
>Europe

Indo-European is a big misnomer.

It should actually be called Indo-Asian. And a separate identity for the modern european like Asian-European for linguistic purposes and conversely Asian-Indo and both of them being part of Asian-Indo group.

>Implying Europe is real

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