What went wrong?

>starving to death in the gutter because dear leader has declared food to be capitalist decadence
>their own interests
Lol, workers are never gonna fall for communism ever again. Get over it.

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Cringe.

These. Communism will never work in a rich country.

Read the sticky nigger.

Bait harder

Leftist retards

Should have gone violent

and open rebellion that welcomes everyone
>too much paranoia with agent provocateurs, to many assholes wanting to go to the front of the line/hijacking the movement ala dickard spinner

unfocused

unplanned

unprepared

run by people who have no responsibililty and think that the movement amounted to sleeping in tents and posting on facebook..
and constantly yelling "MIC CHECK"

since they were lazy potheads the movment quickly lost steam once the establishment starting putting real pressure on them.

Nonviolent protesting has never had an effect on politics without the threat of violent revolt to back it up.

>civil rights movement

Winter came and all the college communists went home because it was too cold.

>>without the threat of violent revolt to back it up.

>girls threatend to ivolently revolt
if you're referring to MLK he didn't and he was literally the sole mechanism that allowed CR to happen for blacks

Was violent as fuck. The Long Hot Summer of '67 alone saw dozens dead and thousands wounded in violent riots. MLK's assassination also sparked riots that killed almost 50 people and injured thousands. The Army deployed troops.

The civil rights movement would have petered out if it weren't for the outrage and the violence expressed by these riots. And the threat of more riots made later protests more effective.

MLKs death and martyrdom won them some of their demands. All of their historical revolts failed to do the same. Even the nation of islam killed each other move than government workers.

It's a fact, communism is a dead ideology.

This. Then I could've laughed at some dough-headed millenial socialist scum get themselves btfo by riot cops.

>opposing political corruption and extreme inequality makes you a communist

>MLKs death and martyrdom won them some of their demands.
The people in power had agreed on what was going to happen long before MLK became popular. MLK and friends were just shock troopers meant to get the middle-classes to support the coming financial and economic changes either by guile or by force.

Wasn't there a theory that identity politics like SJWs were created because of this?

India's independence.

>Anushilan Samiti
>India House
>Ghadar
>HSRA
>Non-violent
Indian Independence didn't suddenly happen because Ghandi you know, it was a decades long process of violent and non-violent revolutionaries

Fuck OP your picture baited me into this thread cause I was hoping it was a poster for movie on the Minoans comming up

I wonder how many of those tards then went and voted for the same party that allowed it to happen and gave billions to the banks?
Only have themselves to blame.

>I wonder how many of those tards then went and voted for the same party that allowed it to happen and gave billions to the banks?
>Only have themselves to blame.
They weren't Republicans though.

It does sway public opinion.

This. I was in NYC at the time.

The broad based economic message collapsed into tribal SJWism, alienating the middle class professionals who actually had the skills to organize and turning the public against it.

>- They didn't simply fail to have a coherent set of goals, they actively refused to have a set of goals because of some esoteric logic that could have only come from critical theorists.

This is very important, the media TRIED to be sympathetic to them, and hosted their "spokesmen" to hear their grievances, but the protestors jut used these opportunities to make fun of the media and to make ridiculous and insane demands, to prove a point about how they have no leaders, man, we, like, run on consensus, baby! As a result the media turned on them and that was that.

Who said that? Overtly and explicitly claiming to be commies is what made so many of the Occupy faggots commies.

Cringe.

There are a lot of stupid people in the world so I'm sure one of them came up with this brainfart. Identity politics has been building strength in academia for at least 40 years, I saw the rot setting in in the social sciences when I as at college in the 80's.

>HURR the Dems are the party of the people!

Good goy.

the dems have been controlled by the jews since woodrow wilson/FDR/LBJ, and the republicans have been controlled by jews since Bush Sr.

there is LITERALLY no point in voting for either of the parties in current year when they are both the jewish party

Protip dope: BOTH parties are the party of the ruling class, and they always have been.

not true, the old school republicans didn't get corrupted until relatively recently, all of them up to eisenhower were objectively top tier presidents, reagan being good and nixon/ford being meh

the democrats have brought literally the worst things onto this country starting with wilson

>(((federal reserve)))
>income tax
>social security
>giving away the panama canal
>literally every welfare program
>higher taxes
>the cia
>most cancerous alphabet agencies
>the 1965 immigration act which lets in literally one million shitskins a year

meanwhile with republicans you got the iraq war

democrats have done more to JUST this country up than the republicans by far

oh and i forgot to mention both the bushes were shit, bush sr is when the republicans became basically the same as the democrat party

I was in Wellington at the time where they also held a Occupy protest, and this homeless drifter fellow I had befriended earlier said he was using it as a nice free place to sleep. I imagine half the camp was just people looking for a place to sleep and hang out with other crazies.

>not true, the old school republicans didn't get corrupted until relatively recently, all of them up to eisenhower were objectively top tier presidents, reagan being good and nixon/ford being meh

What does that have to do with what I said? Are you claiming the Republicans weren't motivated by the interests of the ruling class? Even their opposition to slavery was due to the clash between the industrialist elite in the north and the slave-owning elite in the south, you think they cared about the slaves, or about teh effect emancipation would have on the people (protip, it drove wages down across the board)?

The Dems introduced the shit they did to further the interests of the political elite, who wanted more money to buy votes with, and to simultaneously make large parts of the population dependent on govt handouts, which would ensure their loyalty to "their" party. There is nothing pro-social about welfarism and high taxation, both these things serve the ruling class only (who of course avoid paying the taxes they force everyone else to pay thru various legal loopholes only they are able to take advantage of).

>I'm mad as hell at these rich assholes playing the market or whatever
>obviously the best way to express collectively is to get rid of old means of protest and create our own medias to circumvent the neo-liberal owned mass medias
>now that we regrouped ourselves into a symbolic place, disrupted the monotonous meaningless daily life of Americans, it is time to get down to business and make some coherent demands
>It's very hard because democratic process takes a lot of time, discussing difficult issues with people from different backgrounds and ideologies is not an easy task. We create a framework for discussion to enable everyone to speak, especially those who never speak or dare to.
>Collectively agree the best way to get something out of it is to stay for a longer time despite heavy pressure from concerned authorities and condemning medias.
>We raise awareness on the state of our country, rampant poverty and third world tier inequalities, the lack of a social security system like in any developed country, institutionalised racism and sexism deep rooted in the State, police brutality and many other issue.
>somehow months pass and we manage to build strong bonds within the activist community and create a revolutionary counter culture, non-existant at the time in the US. We tie links with Spanish's Indignados, French's Nuit Debout, Turkish Taskim Square, Egyptian's Tharir square, Greeks activists and many others around the world
>The state and their dogs finally get rid of us by the use of force since their media propaganda was ineffective.

>t.leftypol revisionist

Too bad for you morons, this event is still recent enough that most of us know you're talking complete shit. Give it a few decades before you try to use the same lies you use to make Gommunism seem less like the awful train wreck of evil and failure it was on the Occupy fiasco.

>sits in tents for several months

>25 Years

Not everyone who talks about the proletariat and its interests is necessarily putting forward communism as an answer.

Meh. This is more likely to be an interesting history thread than the 19329432th Hitler thread.

Proofs?

Eh, they pretty much are. Not necessarily "vanilla" Gommunism, but nearly everyone who uses the word "proletariat" is some flavor of Marxist.

Probably. I'm a bit different. I use terms like "proletariat" all the time, yet I'm not a communist. The communists aren't wrong about everything, and they have no magic ability to poison words that they use in such a way that they become unusable by others.

Use the word "proletariat" and you label yourself a Marxist, whether you are one or not. Is this unfair? No, people don't have time to question literally everything they hear to make sure the person they're talking to is using the words they use in the way those words are typically used, or with some weird autistic meaning no-one else attributes to them.