What did people thought when masters had kids with slaves?

Was rape of slaves common? What did society think when an owner got a slave pregnant? Would the wife say anything?

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the answers to all of those questions depend on what society you are asking about and what time period

you are right sorry, I am talking about the precivilwar american black slave. Like Thomas Jefferson Looks like lots of owners had kids with slaves, didn't people judge him for this?

This, in Northern Europe it was probably common because the Thralls (read housekeepers) were of the same stock. But who really knows? Not like we can trace the lineages of peasants/common folk back that long.

I always assumed it was usually less the masters and more the overseers that fucked the slaves.

>rape
How can it be rape? Black bitches love the BWC AKA Great White Dick.

user even if they love it, it's rude to not ask first. Be a gentleman with your rape.

Wife had no rights she was just a disposable baby maker, a man coukd breed a clan of mulattoes and she could do nothing at all.

Also whites fucked their slaves mainly to create more civilized easier to control hybrids because pure african niggers were deranged wild animals, and sexy mulatto or octoroon sex slaves.

Northern Yuropeons had bed slaves too so I'd imagine a couple of thrall-master children were sired.

Here in Brazil it was somewhat common. I myself am descendent of a rich landlord called Simões Lopes, who had a child with a slave.

Those so called slaves are not as slavish as those white cuckolds. I´m white and like black pussy especially if it´s hairy.

>Those so called slaves are not as slavish as those white cuckolds
What did he mean by this?

good post

Men having women who they ''own''. I wasn't there, and haven't read up on it, but I'm going to guess they didn't handle that responsibility too well. In other words, they used them like human flesh lights as would be expected of retarded horny human males who can't handle too much power. i.e. Harvey Weinstein

>pure african niggers were deranged wild animals
People you kidnapped from their homeland and raised in brutal conditions of forced labor act like deranged wild animals.
You don't say....

It wasn't socially acceptable, but it still happened. And given the social stigma (not to speak of personal betrayal) attached, most wives would be vociferously opposed to it.

But I would have done it, if I could have got away with it.

>People you kidnapped from their homeland
Bought from other people who enslaved them after winning a war against them.

Their child was a slave too.

>kidnapped from their homeland
Funny way to spell "purchased from their brethren"

the kid would be made a house slave

"This negress is quite cute, no wonder he fucked her"

>People you kidnapped from their homeland
HAHAHAHAHAHA
they bought them because they had already been enslaved by other Africans

Friendly reminder if the Confederacy won the war this is what the average African American would look like.

wtf I love Lee now

Daily reminder that what Harvey Weinstein did is extremely common and accepted in Hollywood. The only reason he's being thrown under the bus all of a sudden is because his brother wants his job.

Those are some fine titties.
Those this one have panties shots? White ones lined in blue lace would fit her perfectly.

>a couple

Iceland and the Faroes were literally interracial breeding grounds for Norse men and Celtic women

>I'm descendent of a rich landlord/noble family
>but for some reason I'm black and poor
EVERY FUCKING BR

I bet you believe indians sat around playing drums peacefully all day

>>GWC
Stealing this for future use.

It was treated as an open secret. The kids were always slaves although I did read few accounts of mulatto sons being sent to a special school to be educated.

I'm sure the wife took the anger out on the slave/kids or just tried to ignore it; not much she could do about it

Or debtors, or criminals. These two categories made up 50% of slaves. Citation: Mungo Park.

It was mostly kept secret. It was highly frowned upon, even though it did happen frequently. It was considered equivalent to beastiality, especially as racist attitudes became more prevalent towards the mid 19th century. Of course people judged people for this, but it was much easier to keep secrets back then and polite society and manners dictated that you didn't speak about things like this in public, even if they were well-known.

Wives would probably have been upset, but what was a woman in pre-Civil War America to do about it? Women couldn't own property, take loans, make legally binding contracts, and all sorts of other essential socio-economic practices, especially if they were married (anything they did own was simply their husband's). Asking for a divorce from a wealthy slave owner was essentially signing a social suicide pact.

>Bought from other people who enslaved them after winning a war against them.
>Funny way to spell "purchased from their brethren"

And the Africans in general treated slaves (maybe not war captives during said war, though) as enslaved people, not farm equipment. Obviously this varied in the Americans but many if not most societies had slavery at some point but did not have such an impetus to treat them as complete sub-humans.

Then again, it's hard for modern people to really understand what slavery was like in different societies because it is anathema to us now

He literally said the reason. Dumb frogposter.

Supposedly the main subject of gossip amoung southern ladies was which of the mulatto slaves were sired by their current host. And all of them had their own husbands' bastard slaves at home that they pretended did not exist.

Oh they judged him all right. But he just denied it and that was that. When you're as rich as a Virginia planter there's much people can do, and it's not like anyone really cared enough anyway.

People fuck livestock, people fuck dolls - of course people were fucking their slaves. Hell, that could be part of the job description, depending on the era.

>precivilwar american black slave. Like Thomas Jefferson
Generally frowned upon, but so was divorce, and not really an option for most women. Most often it became the family's dirty little secret.

In Thomas Jefferson's case, specifically, Sally Hemings is believed to be the mother of six of his children, but they were all born after his wife's death, so no issue on that front, but it was nonetheless more or less kept under wraps, and widely denied, for nearly 150 years, and still smacks of controversy to this day.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson–Hemings_controversy

As to whether it was "common", while it's a bit hard to tell, there were a whole lotta mixed-race folks running about before the civil war, and not nearly enough freed blacks running about to explain them all.

Given how boring running a plantation must have been, men gonna do what men gonna do. How often it was consensual is another thing. A slave technically can't consent, but having sex with one's owner does give one special placement, and give you something to bargain with, so the women might just as often been willing, or even seductresses, given the potential advantages.

It was common enough that light-skinned Mulattoes were often referred to as "white slaves".

No cuck you dont realize civilized niggers are a recent thing, before slavery blacks were feral humans who would ruthlessly stab you to death with spears for fun or beat the tar out of you(like they do today daily).

Read Negroes in Negroland to see how the basketball american preslave ancestors behaved. Blacks are alien to Eurasians in general just by their behavior.

>Was rape of slaves common?
I doubt it, women are the same across all races and if there's one thing women are know for it's using their sexuality to increase their status.
Massah don't have to rape no slaves, the hottest thots probably fought among each other to seduce him and his kin, in order to get bumped from field to house service..

Very good, OP.

He's just plagiarizing the term BBC - big black cock. You're not discovering a hidden witticism to rule all others.

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>Genome-wide ancestry estimates of African Americans show average proportions of 73.2% African, 24.0% European, and 0.8% Native American ancestry (Table 1). We find systematic differences across states in the US in mean ancestry proportions of self-reported African Americans (Figure 1 and Table S2). On average, the highest levels of African ancestry are found in African Americans living in or born in the South, especially South Carolina and Georgia (Figure 1Aand Table S3). We find lower proportions of African ancestry in the Northeast, the Midwest, the Pacific Northwest, and California.

>Through comparison of estimates of X chromosome and genome-wide African and European ancestry proportions, we estimate that approximately 5% of ancestors of African Americans were European females and 19% were European males (Table S4).

Literally bleached.

So the whole 'BLACKED' thing is just a /pol/ meme?

this is exactly what was the case in French Saint Domingue, except it was less shameful and it was well attested that French masters fucked their slaves, kept black mistresses and had their mixed children work in the household staff

i thought it was just a decades old porn trend

it is an ancient meme

I think they look that way because men spent a lot more time outside than women, so they had darker skin. Also, look at the guy's aquiline nose. He looks Italian to me.

sorry user blacked posting was a roman tradition

Fun fact - facefucking/mouthfuck was so popular in ancient Rome to have it's own specific word

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrumatio

>that last part quoting the Bible

Whoa ... user re-think your life

IIRC in the US south the child took on the status of the mother
So if the master had a bit of fun with a mint slave girl the child would be a slave, but if the masters wife got BLACKED the child would be free

This looks like it was made based on info from fucking afrocentrist websites.

>but if the masters wife got BLACKED the child would be free
Damn
Cucking truly is an all time American tradition

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yep

It's pretty damn common lol.
Power is a massive aphrodisiac.

>Negroes in Negroland
For some reason, I am doubting the objectivity of that work.

He never implied that you shitter

>Otter'd

Or whatever animal this is

The fact that slave owners would often sell their own mulatto children is pretty sick

Source? For research purposes.

that's sea lion you idiot

lol its a manatee ya dingus

You genuinely thought those might have been otters?

That's bullshit. Why would the plantation owner allow such a thing?

>Giraffed

It was seen as taboo to say the least, in fact all throughout European history it's been much the same, especially when dealing with the wives of slave owners.

>sick

I would rather say effective. Get to blow balls deep in your hottest slave and even get paid for it.

>treated as slaves
>not farm equipment

Who do you think worked on the salt mines or extracting resources from mines?

I don´t know you, but I would pretty much prefer to work in a cotton field then in a mine at that period, where life expectancy was not higher then one year.

Just look at the difference in both societies and you will see how worse were treated black slaves, see the deals with muslins and you will see how Europeans actually treated slaves pretty well in comparison to other people

Actually chattel slavery was worse than Muslim slavery, and under Muslim slavery you could even work toward independence

American Slave Owners were known for using slave women as sex objects, yes.

It got so common they had to make laws revolving the slave status of the children and the fate of the couple.

Fucking yankees.

Sure if they didn´t castrate you(which ottomans did a lot)

>what is a freedman

all slave owners used women as sex objects, its nothing unique to america, and needs no capitalisation.
antique societies had laws regarding the offspring of masters and slaves.

The Romans had a law saying that any woman caught fucking a male slave could be executed by her family. Whether or not the law applied when the genders were reversed is not known.

>common and accepted

Then that's a fucking problem, too.

>the only reason he's being thrown under the bus

Is because he's a sexual predator.

what a goddess

grrrr! user, I'm on nofap

Post qt slavegirls and indios, is my fetish

Under the threat of bring re-enslaved. Worse off in most cases then slaves because the society they are in despises them deeply so they are on the absolute bottom hierarchy of people (slaves arent people so they don't count) and often seen as a threat to society at many levels

>I don´t know you, but I would pretty much prefer to work in a cotton field then in a mine at that period,

You've never seen the carribean during its slave times.

pls post the unshooped version

Who /american slav chummy with blacks after reiterating you're a different kind of white person that had no hand in the enslavement of their ancestors/ here?

Kill whitey lmao

Why is there so little porn of this

My X chromosome is Asian (Malagasy ancestry) and two cousins have a Native American chromosomes (All Virginia tribes with black ancestry were stripped of tribal status in the 1930s). My Y is European.

Yet somehow I ended up looking Tutsi.
Only one is Cafuzo.
Prominent where blacks were in contact with whites the most. New England old stock and all West Virginia blacks have the highest European ancestry of non-creole black Americans.

South Carolina blacks have the lowest European ancestry and South Caroline Whites have the highest rates of at least 2% African ancestry (13% of white there are at least 2%)

My own family it was a lot of rape of sex slave teenagers and a couple women who were cohabitating with white men and raising free white passing children on one side.

One white passing slave owning ancestor married a former slave after the war though and gave land to his in-laws and their community though.

Because that's disgusting and any black woman who did it would be severely desturbed in the head and/or at risk of being rightfully beat up for exoticizing that

>in fact all throughout European history it's been much the same
Romans fucked their slaves on the daily, male and female.

Females had enuch slaves, so they didn;t get pregnant. Eunuch can still get erections through direct stimulation. They just don't get random boners/sexual desires without that. Probably made them last a long time, too.

w2c?

>it's right to beat black women who don't act how you want them to

still would

Race play is pretty common actually. Actual slavery is taboo though. But there's alot of black chicks who are into it outside of porn. Just look at the tons of Tumblr blogs about it.

Did Jefferson's illegitimate children also live as slaves? That seems pretty fucked up. Like he could have freed them and told them to quietly leave the plantation or something. Even if you have a half-black son, it's still your own son.

There's some real chemistry brewing between that last pair.

Depending in which country, and in which time. Laws about serf were different.

Not true. The one-drop rule that Veeky Forums loves so much was used to determine slave status, not the gender of the colored parent. Stop trying to force memes.

If a black woman tries to make money from our collective historic truama she will face the wrath of those foremothers she clearly mocks.

Fictive kinship and collective consciousness, we aren't gonna take that.

Where they could be a target for a slaver?
Or perhaps they could be shipped back to africa, where they would be a foreigner among a local tribe that likely sells unwanted people into the slave trade.