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Like, what if they somehow lasted throughout the ages, and reached the modern day?

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The world is changed beyond recognition and the historical timeline is so altered that it is pretty much impossible to even remotely guess what the modern world would be like.

who cares about infantry anymore

Their military tactics would change with the times, and would be indistinguishable from what others had.

But the political implications would be huge. Europe would be united up until the modern era. In our timeline, Europe was immensely dis-united from the fall of rome to the modern EU.

It's also possible this united Roman Empire could have faced off against the invading Arabs and Turks, preventing the fall of Constantinople.

Use your imagination

If the Roman Empire somehow survived in its more or less original form, Constantinople falling wouldn't have mattered much either way. Anyone who took it would have armies pulled from all of Europe looking to retake it shortly.

I don't have enough imagination to completely rewrite more than a thousand years of history.

there's a Harry Turtledove book where because of reasons, the entire world coalesces into gigantic empires that just sort of rub up on each other but never amass the resources to destroy each other. Because there are so few conflicts between the ~5 polities that exist in Eurasia, technology stagnates and in 21XX the Roman Empire is sitting at around the level of the late 1600's

>Use your imagination
Very well.

Considering that byzantine/balkan clothing descended from Late Roman Clothing, then the Roman soldier of a modern age would look less like this and more like a fez wearing cunt.

When writing alternate timelines or playing around with maps, counterfactual historians sometimes don't see the point of coming up with lots of different countries, especially for regions they know little about. There may also be a need to make sure that the entire earth is PVP Balanced in more warlike stories. So what they do is just fill the map with large polities, even when there would be little plausibility to a single empire ruling these territories. This is referred to as a Space Filling Empire.

The richest region in the world would be Egypt.

>Because there are so few conflicts technology stagnates
That's retarded.

I think rome was actually a bad thing as far as "technological advancement" was concerned.

my reasoning is that roman hegemony basically prevented any competition between the nations and states that would've otherwise existed, (not merely military, think more economically), and sort of held back a lot that could've otherwise developed.

The only thing that I'd find interesting is if someone delivered 2-5 objects in a ship to a major port in the Hellenistic era.

>A book or journal describing china, detailing a few key things: probably being a lot of 2nd hand accounts of weird shit lying deep/remote inland, or even further east/south. Importantly it would include some descriptions of these things: Paper-Making (from plant-fibers and bits of scrap-cloth), as well as descriptions of Chinese mining, smelting, forging equipment and techniques, wheelbarrows and other shit like that.
>schematics or a working example of a Gutenberg-style printing press
>a book describing "Arabic numerals" and which has some sort of argument (in greek) that can demonstrate the usefulness of "zero" as a concept

Was that the book where Islam never happened, so the setting is a cold war between a millennia old Rome and Persia?

The most powerful governments (as of 2017) have already sent many objects to the past. Ex.: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

Romans were still expansionists, they were already working on subduing Persia and exploring below the Sahara. You could say that technology might advance slower if there wasn't dozens of European states all trying to kill each other for hundreds of years but you could also make the argument that a relatively peaceful empire would allow free thought to grow and nurture new ideas.

The real question would be how long until they discover America. There'd be no necessity to sail west to reach India if they could just sail east like normal, but curiosity might trigger an expedition by itself. Though who knows when that might happen.

it's mentioned that every empire has occasional border skirmishes and wars between their neighbours, but the story barely brings up Persia, it focuses more on Lietuva, which controls northern Europe and western Russia

Can't take a town with planes user

>Use your imagination
>No one can stand against the might of the polynesian empire stretching from indochina to the americas
>aliens are invading
>Everyone uses pebbles for commerce becaue of reasons i don't need to explain myself
>Some other backwards place is different too
What a world, so interesting, i wonder what hijinks they will get up to next. This is not history it's just fiction.

>2017
>China is challenging Rome's global hegemony
>Persia is building nukes aimed at Constantinople
>Britannia wants out of the Empire
>Balkans actually isn't a shithole

>Balkans actually isn't a shithole

Come on, be realistic.

Rome was pretty good for technological advancement though right? I mean, relative to the era? And Rome was constnatly at war with the Germans, Persians, and with each other so there's spark for competition.

Not particularly, no. If anything technological advancement slowed down somewhat as the Hellenistic world was incorporated into the Empire.

They were absurdly good at nicking other people's stuff though.

>Balkans isn't a shithole

I could believe the rest of your post but that is a bridge too far.

Slavery in the way was practiced in Rome was not sustainable, Roman Empire was the perfect fascist state.

But they managed to improve so much on the backs of slavery so who knows, perhaps they would not even discovered americas

Not so far stretched, Illyria was a bedrock of the empire, and the source of many of it's better generals and emperors.

The balkans only turned to shit after the slavs invaded.

That's actually a good point. The primary reason why Europeans suddenly became so interested in overseas exploration during the 15th century is because the Ottomans controlled the east, and they made it extremely difficult to trade with India, which was where all the dank spices came from. Portugal devised a way to navigate all the way around Africa in order to reach India. Then Christopher Colombus decided that instead of sailing all the way around Africa, it might make more sense to just go out into the Atlantic Ocean and see if there was a way to reach India by sailing west.

What type of retard thinks they wouldn't just look like this?

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>Roman Empire was the perfect fascist state.

Dude, maybe the incas were communist after all

I've always wanted someone to design a "Roman" tank

Romans wouldn't have tanks, they always pulled their cavalry from the Auxilliary corps

germanics would be dead

>Constantinople
it wouldnt be so important, are you this stupid?
and china wouldnt be so powerfull

Kind of like the US, just taking things and improving and using them.

>Dominican

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WHO ARE THESE ILLUSTRATORS WHO ALWAYS DEPICT ANCIENT ROMAN SOLDIERS AS RESEMBLING NEANDERTHALS? THEY MUST BE THE SAME ONES WHO DEPICT SPARTANS AS BARBARIAN BRUTES THAT RESEMBLE TROGLODYTES.

WHO ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS, WHO IS HIRING THEM, AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE ARE THESE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS BEING HIRED TO ILLUSTRATE?

What makes you think this timeline of Roman survival somehow excludes Constantine?

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sure, but what would their dress uniforms look like

No pants.

Why would a modern Roman soldier look like a Roman soldier from the 1st century? Do modern British soldiers dress like Celts?

Fuck that looks badass

Like this

No, they would not dress like retarded Greeks who are larping with Turkiic influenced dress styles.

why would ching chong mongo turks dress like a byzantine circus clown?