Are jews actually overrepresented in the western elite or is that just shitposting and misinfo?

blacks in poverty worked for black businesses

now blacks in poverty work for white businesses whereh te money goes to jews and chinamen rather than into black communities

why were there more poor blacks when they worked for black businesses if blacks practiced racial nepotism?

and genetics

Get a load of this kike.

If you're posting Bill Kristol then you already know the answer.

>It's also why blacks were more successful in the 40s and 50s

Complete bullshit.

No the mostly worked for whites in deadend jobs pretty much locked into. Black businesses often faced the threat of getting purged or attacked by whites if they are too successful as well as fuckton of limitations and kneecapping by white society (have fun getting credit or a loan).

Pretty easy to answer, nepotism in general. Take the Jewish media figures Wolf Blitzer or Larry King, neither are charismatic and both are easily replaceable, and yet they're media icons because their faces are everywhere.

>implying it can't be both nepotism and higher education in important fields

It is actually, the progenitor of the trend to promote racial egalitarianism in academia was the socialist, jewish anthropologist Franz Boas. His entire academic clique consisted of jews who he promoted in academia, this and jewish banking money would slowly turn Ivy League universities into hives of nepotism.

but they were already hives of nepotism

it just changed masters from WASP's and Dutch Trading Families, to WASP's with a Jewish relative or ancestor.

Isn't nepotism just kinda natural though and how most movements in history go anyway?

Usually it's a bunch of guys who knew each other .

Also aren't asians in academia at a crazy high rate too? Maybe they are just winning.

>implying Ivy League Universities weren't already hives of Nepotism
Honest I applaud the Jews to take Muh Holocaust and spin it around to break into the Nepotistic WASP upper class in America

>WASP nepotistism
I'm thinking that it was more along the lines that they made up the majority of the populace.
We're discussing the reasoning, Franz knew many academics, he promoted almost only Jewish ones.

>Germans and Catholic Irish, Italians, Eastern Euros and Blacks were WASPs
Besides WASPs were nepotistic as fuck, just read anything about monopolies and gilded age politics

I said the majority, I didn't say the entirety.

How did jewish banking money influence those universities?

You underestimate to how much of a degree the Germanic migrations changed the demographics of America. America hasn't been an Anglo-saxon country is quite a long time. It's just that when WW1 hit, a wave of anti-german and anti-catholic sentiment that was simmering for decades erupted and german-americans changed their names and stopped speaking their language. Least they get lynched like that one german-american that made the newspapers.

The W in WASP stands for wealthy.

>Smart people realize it's just what happens when a culture values education and the study of law.
Ah, yes, nothing to do with nepotism at all!

>meanwhile racial quotas because there's too many white people getting into schools and employment

...

The Irish are

You can't put a racial quota on making too much money.

>muh jews are da reason i'm down and a degenerate failure that likes to crossdress and sleep with black men!!

It's stands for "white".

...

Hey! Don't you bring crossdressing into this.
It's not my fault that I was forced to eat fuckton of soy as a kid and that the government keeps pumping estrogen into our tap water.
Who wouldn't crossdress if they'd look like a pre-pubescent boy at age 19?

The jewish survival strategy can be summed up in following points:

1. corrupt the elites of a town/society to grant a lucrative monopoly for the jews, like lending money
2. corrupt them even more so they defend it
3. get as many other jews as possible into the monopoly business
4. get richer and richer and with that money corrupt the elites even more
5. don't mix with non-jews to avoid assimilation
6. endure the inevitable progrom against jews, defend the monopoly position at all cost

this is literally the reason why they are basically the only people in the world that exists since 3000 years without having changed dramatically. chinese, greeks, persians, etc. all don't have too much in common with their ancestors from 3000 years ago, the jews though do.

Start exercising and you'll find yourself growing and widening.
I don't mean going to the gym. Just get a pullup bar, a few dumbbells, and learn bodyweight exercises. Do it all at home while watching crossdressing youtubers if you prefer.

Literally everything about your post is wrong

Desu, I don't think going from a soyboy look to a gay twink is much of an improvement.

t. JIDF

My shoulders have widened and I'm more "manly" looking in general after managing to exercise consistently in the last few months, I recommend it if you want to escape the soyboy look
but there's nothing wrong with the soyboy look if you like it, do what you like

Not even JIDF, just from a genetic standpoint Chinese (Northern) Greeks and Persians are mostly directly related to their ancestors. Someone devoid of basic historical historical knowledge such as you shouldn't be browsing a history board

>persians
>literally praying to arab god and using arab letters

>greeks
>turned christian, basically turks culture wise

>chinese
>literally burned all their history, now western-style communists

>/pol/ thinks its some lizardperson conspiracy.

Nice strawman. /pol/ thinks its because of ethnic nepotism and slightly higher IQ.

>Smart people realize it's just what happens when a culture values education and the study of law.

White people value education as well, thats a retarded explanation.

They really don't, not as monolithically and uniformally as Jews do. See working class whites. Honestluy Jews are just better than whites

Whom are you quoting?

Jewish culture and faith shifted a lot. A lot of their "traditions" did not exist 2000 years ago before they were exiled bigly. Hell, before the exile it wasn't "Jewish people", it was Israelites, and every tribe (12 of them) had its own sub-culture within the big picture.
t. Israeli

Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews as well as most Eastern European Jews dont value education very much either. Again, its a retarded explanation, everyone knows that its primarily just good old ethnic nepotism.

You.

Jews becoming prominent bankers was also due to this. Europeans felt handling money was sinful and left it to the Jews.

Wasn't it also the case for the entertainment business?

it is obviously true that racial and religious demographics don't follow "normal" socio economic distribution curves. I honestly don't know why that is a controversial proposition. Of course its true.

But its trivially true.

It has almost no bearing on the lived experiences of every day people and their interactions.

Who would honestly see a rich looking black guy and a poor looking jewish guy and be like "uh oh, based on statistical probability of ethno-wealth distribution i had better treat this poor jew with greater respect and attention than this black!"

...

This is a common lie.

Since I cannot sleep, I will post excerpts regarding Jewish nepotism.

theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/07/24/putting-shylock-to-shame-the-moneylender-portrayed-as-hero/#more-154310

>There is a certain threshold beyond which the sociopathy of a Jewish intellectual like Yaron Brook achieves an almost alien quality. It is one thing to be a sociopath; quite another to extoll the total untethering of the individual from any kind of higher morality as the greatest cause to which one can devote their life.

>Brook outdoes himself in a piece entitled The Morality of Moneylending: A Short History. The title is misleading, since its author does not dispassionately present a history, but rather presents a historiography with Jews (from Shakespeares Shylock to Californias Michael Milken) depicted as misunderstood and falsely persecuted heroes who are unfairly punished for their enterprise, industry(etc)

>Brook would presumably have us glorify the Rothschilds, as did former inside trader Ivan Boesky, the son of Jewish immigrants who claimed he aspired to be a latter-day Rothschild (as noted in James B Stewarts Den of Thieves, 226) and proceeded to do his best to make good on his ambition. Before the law eventually caught up with him, Ivan Boesky would engage in a series of insider trades that made him and a small cadre of fellow conspirators rich beyond dreams of avarice. In the aftermath of the era of merger mania and hostile takeovers he helped initiate, individual lives and companies were ruined, and trust in markets was eroded, if not shattered. Boesky of course has enjoyed a rather large pop culture footprint thanks to a speech given to a graduating class at the University of California in 1985, in which he assured the young audience that Greed is all right. That would eventually morph into the famous credo Greed is good, uttered by Michael Douglas in his Oscar-winning turn as Gordon Gekko in Oliver Stones Wall Street.

>Boeskys hubris outdid that of his onscreen incarnation. To cite just one example, on the night before he agreed to become an undercover agent for the Department of Justice, Boesky made a special appearance on the deck of the Queen Elizabeth II, a luxury ship that had been rented by Gerald Guterman, a real estate developer and owner of the Stanhope Hotel, to celebrate the September 1986 bar mitzvah of his 13-year-old son, Jason (264).

>The problem with this is that no institution or society or social unit, least of all Wall-Street, is free from nepotism or natural proclivities toward tribal-oriented thinking and helping friends (especially by sharing hot tips). Yaron Brook at some level knows this (since his work is peppered with references that give a window onto his neuroses that mark him as part of a collective) and for him to suggest further loosening regulation or less monitoring of those involved in the economic activity that affects all our lives is ridiculous

>Drexel, Burnham, and Lambert (run into the ground by Michael Milken due to insider trading) had a special strategy for identifying its ideal clients. The procurement of prostitutes was part of it. Miami financier Victor Posner had a distasteful appetite for teenage girls, (120) but client-getter Donald Donnie Engel wasnt judgmental. On the contrary, he shared many of their appetites. Among Drexels important clients, Engel was given credit for landing Ronald Perelman, Nelson Peltz, Jerome Kohlberg, Gerald Tsai, Irwin Jacobs, and the Haft and Pritzker families (120). (almost all Jews)

One of the cases which turned me towards mistrust and eventual hatred of the Jews was the Jonathan Pollard case, the aftermath laid bare the nepotistic nature of Jews where blood clearly takes precedence over nationality.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

>Jonathan Jay Pollard (born August 7, 1954) is a former intelligence analyst for the United States government. In 1987, as part of a plea agreement, Pollard pleaded guilty to spying for and providing top-secret classified information to Israel. He was sentenced to life in prison for violations of the Espionage Act.[1]

>it's just what happens when a culture values education
east asian cultures value education too and yet...

>Pollard is the only American who has received a life sentence for passing classified information to an ally of the U.S.[2]

Key word there- ally. Anyone who had spied and given classified information to an enemy of the US in the past usually was given a death sentence, but if Israel is an ally why the need to spy and steal secrets? Once again the Jews fall onto semantics in order to justify themselves.

>Shortly after Pollard began working at NIC/TF-168, he met Aviem Sella, a combat veteran of the Israeli Air Force. At the time, Sella was on leave from his position as a colonel to gain a master's degree in computer science as a graduate student at New York University. Pollard told Sella that he worked for U.S. naval intelligence, told him about specific incidents where U.S. intelligence was withholding information from Israel, and offered to work as a spy.

>As of 2014, the full extent of the information Pollard passed to Israel has still not been officially revealed. Press reports cited a secret 46-page memorandum, which Pollard and his attorneys were allowed to view.[41] They were provided to the judge by Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who described Pollard's spying as including, among other things, obtaining and copying the latest version of Radio-Signal Notations (RASIN), a 10-volume manual comprehensively detailing America's global electronic surveillance network.[10][42]

So essentially Pollard was lying, he wasn't giving information the US was withholding to the Israelis but rather keys to America's surveillance system.

Here is where Jewish nepotism is exposed.

>In 1993, political science professor and Orthodox Jewish activist David Luchins organized an unsuccessful appeal to President Bill Clinton to commute Pollards sentence.
>Benjamin Netanyahu has been particularly vocal in lobbying for Pollard's release, visiting Pollard in prison in 2002.
>lan Dershowitz has been among Pollard's high-profile supporters, both in the courtroom as a lawyer and in various print media. Characterizing the sentence as "excessive", Dershowitz writes in an article reprinted in his bestselling book Chutzpah, "As an American, and as a Jew, I hereby express my outrage at Jonathan Pollard's sentence of life imprisonment for the crime to which he pleaded guilty."[103]

Dershowitz is an influential neocon and one of the architects of the Iraq War.

>In 2012, Malcolm Hoenlein called for Pollards' release, saying "27 yearshe's paid the price for his crimes. He has expressed remorse. Enough is enough. It's time that he be let gothere is no justification that we can see for keeping him any longer, there's no cause of justice, no security interest that could possibly be served."[1]
>In 2013, Rabbi Pesach Lerner, Executive Vice President of the National Council of Young Israel, cited hypocrisy of Pollard's imprisonment in America after revelations of spying against U.S. allies by the United States intelligence agencies.[104]
>In 2010, representatives Barney Frank (D-Mass.), Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.), Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), and Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) wrote a letter that "notes the positive impact that a grant of clemency would have in Israel, as a strong indication of the goodwill of our nation towards Israel and the Israeli people".[114] In November 2010, Weiner stated: "No one in the history of the United States who did something similar to Jonathan Pollard served a life sentence, nor should he."[105]
>Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger stated that "[t]he Pollard matter was comparatively minor. It was made far bigger than its actual importance."
>In December 2010, former U.S. assistant Secretary of Defense Lawrence Korb said: "In retrospect, we know that an injustice was done to Pollard ... the man is very sick and should be released before it is too late."[105]
All powerful American Jewish figures and politicians, all supporting a spy for a foreign government who betrayed "their" nation- obviously Jewish allegiance lies only with their own.

Out of all the pathetic fanfic i've read on here, this one has to be the cringiest

The list of nepotistic, traitorous Jews in thr US government continues-

>Former White House Counsel, Bernard Nussbaum, wrote a letter on January 28, 2011, to President Obama stating that he extensively reviewed the Jonathan Pollard file while he served in the White House. In his letter, he stated, "that a failure at this time to commute his sentence would not serve the course of justice; indeed, I respectfully believe, it would be a miscarriage of justice".[118][119]
>Former Secretary of State George Shultz also wrote a letter to President Obama on January 11, 2011, urging that Jonathan Pollard sentence to be commuted.
>In 2011, Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Secretary of State declared that the time had come to commute the sentence of Jonathan Pollard.
>Lawrence Korb, former Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan, has called on the Obama Administration to grant clemency to Pollard

Jew after Jew fighting for their fellow Jew who betrayed the nation they (including Pollard) swore to serve, claiming it would help US-Israeli relations. Does the US need Israel? Clearly Jews and Israel itself are detrimental to the US and are incapable of being unbiased, patriotic civil servants.

So I killed the thread, now the Jews will double down on memes and the holocaust since that is the shield they hide behind. If you're wise you'll disregard them. As this famous children's book author wrote-

their vision of god is more accurate than christianity

they care about each other more than others in the US do

their culture isnt as degenerate as others

they have a real sense of family

their culture isnt ignorant as fuck and is based around education

i dislike living in flyover land desu

>their vision of god is more accurate than christianity
Israel has one of the highest rates of atheism
>they care about each other more than others in the US do
That benefits only Jews
>their culture isn't as degenerate as others
Jews birthed second wave feminism, transgender rights, mindless pop culture, and regarding "based Israel" Tel Aviv has been repeatedly voted the most gay-friendly city in the world
>sense of family
This is all very insightful anecdotal evidence coming from someone supposedly living in a flyover state in the US.
Go to bed Avi.

"Left it to the jews". You mean the jews paid the christian rulers so they don't allow christians penetrating their monopoly position. I can't wrap my head around why so many people think the christians left one of the most lucrative businesses to the jews just because.

The system went as followed:

Christian cleriks declare only jews can lend money --> Jews exploit their position, the famous exploitively high jewish interest rates are being used --> the profits from exploiting the plebs are being shared with the cleriks --> Jews pay by enduring hatred and progroms from the plebs instead of the christian cleriks --> this way jews can stay un-assimilated and powerful and cleriks can cash in on exploting the plebs

>but if Israel is an ally why the need to spy and steal secrets? Once again the Jews fall onto semantics in order to justify themselves.

What a disingenuous argument. Every country has spies in every other country, allies or no. The US had Yosef Amit spying for them in Israel. He was released after 6 years, while Pollard was released after 28 years and that was after pressure.

Yes and no.
They are waaay overrepressed in academia and media and shit, but /pol/ goes full retard and labels everyone a jew.
Ffs, they called Stalin and a lot of his friends jews, despite them being antisemitic as fuck.

Even Marx himself was a self-hating Jew and antisemitic to an enormous degree.

>The US had Yosef Amit spying for them in Israel.

Even the Israeli government hasn't stated that is true.

>ex drug dealer
>court martialed and sent to psych facility
>had no access, claimed to have received files from a friend under flimsy pretenses
Amit wasn't a sworn officer of his military, nor was his information important.
And Israeli is no ally of America.

>called Stalin a Jew
Those are probably Jews trying to disseminate disinfo in order to discredit the argument that Jews had overrepresentation in the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks by creating a strawman of an unintellectual /pol/lack.

Fuck no.
/pol/tacks were straight about this.
And jews in the commie party are again, halfway between truth and memes.
They were overrepresented, but not as much as stormcucks claim.

Yes user, it was (((/pol/lacks)))
>halfway between truth and memes.
No user. Only truth, no memes.
>stormcucks
Now why would you out yourself so quickly?

Oy vey, shut it down.
But seriously now, this is precisely the shit i was talking about.

Learn some history mate, like pic related.

>Europeans felt handling money was sinful
>left it to the Jews.

fucking kikes.. USURY WAS SINFUL

JEWS DID THIS AND MADE PROFITS

>rules against Jews from becoming farmers like everyone

oh holy shit, you jews are slippery fuckers. It was a common complaint to this day that jews refuse to work with their hands and sweat of their brow.

>Israel has one of the highest rates of atheism

its not just about the worship of god but the culture itself, god in judaism is infinite and everywhere, whereas in christianity He is anthromorphized through the flesh and is part of the same race that birthed people like mao, genghis kahn, and the drunk around the corner

>That benefits only Jews

every tribe only usualyl cares about their own. irish and italians aren't assimilated, they are still largely catholic

> mindless pop culture

nice sources and lou reed and bob dylan are the opposite of pop culture

>This is all very insightful anecdotal evidence coming from someone supposedly living in a flyover state in the US.

im friends with a jew online, their way of life is generally better from what i know about it than other groups in the US.

>money influence those universities

idk how does football money influence universities in alabama and texas.

>im friends with a jew online, this is why I disparage my home state and nation while idolizing theirs

You're not fooling anyone.

>this thread

wew, lad.

Nietzsche was right. Lowborn people really give in to their resentment.

Yeah.
Careful there, goy, of the jews under your bed, the fairyjew and the boogeyjew.

>>im friends with a jew online, this is why I disparage my home state and nation while idolizing theirs

theres lots of people who live in countries like russia, move away and talk about how shit it is afterwards

>You're not fooling anyone.

if i was a jew culturally id ramble for long paragraphs about nothing

Unlike some jew larping as a kid in the midwest I posted actual evidence and citations.

Im not even that guy "who knows a jew online".
I was just making fun of you.
Also, im from E. Europe.

Thats probably why your people were so easily subjugated by them.

Kek.
We literally sold jews to Israel, and had one of the most famous pogroms of all time here

>It was a common complaint to this day that jews refuse to work with their hands and sweat of their brow
yeah it's not like half of israel is agricultural lmao
oh wait hold on

>Occidental Observer
Quality source right there.

So what happened? When did your people get so soft? I want to go out on a limb and guess you're Ukrainian, but then again half of Ukraine's government is made up of Jewish oligarchs, so you must be something else.

Romanian?

Romania.
90's fucked us over.
But if you mean antisemitism, there's plenty of that.
But we dont give a shit about them personally, since 99,9999999% of them fucked off to Israel.

Well I'm an American and they're balls deep in our media and government, so excuse my differing opinions and sentiments.

>all the people saying "nepotism"
I'm sure nepotism plays a part, but by itself it doesn't explain Jewish success. There is no way that 0.2% of the world population could become so successful on nepotism alone, without there being other advantages. Nepotism does't confer THAT much of an advantage, especially given that other groups also practice it.

Just look who gets nobel prizes from relevant fields.

Well it is a form of nepotism that you're not allowed to complain about. When other groups practice crony capitalism, we can say "hey that's not fair lets do something about it". If you say that with Jewish nepotism, it'd be antisemitism.

And its Hitler's fault its that way

It's honestly just nepotism combined with above average intelligence. Over X centuries, this group would naturally gravitate to the top of society. It only accelerates with time too.

0 people in the thread said they hated Jews besides an user quoting a writer. I do not resent Jews, rather, I pity their inability to be free of a troubling spook of ethnicity and religion.

That and they lie through their teeth.

But weren't Jews already overrepresented in the world elite before 1945? The post-WW2 taboo against antisemitism wouldn't explain that. Indeed, from what I understand pre-WW2 Europe was highly antisemitic. Yet the Jews still did well.

How this hasnt been deleted?

This obviously is a /pol/ thread