Haiti

It's because of the santions

I mean, it was successful in that they were no longer slaves to the French.

Eh, it was only the French. Dessaline brought 1000 Germans to the island and later granting all "Teutonic" people citizenship if they wanted.

Bedtime isn't slavery. Colonial Haiti was hell on Earth for slaves.

As said, the slavery we practiced in the US was pretty damn mild compared to the shit the Caribbean was doing.

Not exactly. It's just Sugarcane plantations were lucrative enough that the value of enslaved people was less important than say tobacco farms in Virginia.

It doesn't mean the work and experience of enslaved people were "easier".

Um excuse me? Could you tone down the racism and maybe take a walk or something to reflect on what you're doing here? Those white slavers deserved everything they got. We can't forget that all whites are inherently racist, the genocide of white people by their literal former slaves was, is, and always will be justified. If those white women and children didn't want to be butchered, maybe they shouldn't have been living on a literal slave plantation. All I can say is that when it happens in the US and Europe, I won't feel an ounce of remorse.

I'm stating that the idea that some slaves had it "good" is a slavery apologist take that's not rooted in reality.

No shit, no slaves had it good and those whites got what was coming. We have to realize that ALL whites are inherently racist, whereas all PoC (People of Color) are inherently oppressed, regardless of the conditions they've been subjected to. Whites can be as nice as they want to blacks and it really doesn't matter, you cannot simply polite away 1000s upon 1000s of years of systematic racial oppression. Regardless of material conditions, all whites are always guilty and all PoC are always oppressed. Now hopefully you've learned something here and you won't go around spitting your racist white privilege diatribe around like before :^)

They did have infrastructure but poor funding and bipolar governments made getting it built kinds random with peaks and troughs. You can argue that the rural population made administring services harder.

I know you're trolling but it is important to understand that in all the Caribbean and in the South all white people did benefit from the institution of slavery.

The figure of slave owners is only representative of direct owners. It doesn't speak on the economic engines of say rented out enslaved folks which was a common practice or the value of labor output on both unskilled or skilled labor.

Ultimately the institution of slavery socially and politically uplifted all white people who's works and labor from the pulpit to mercantile and other pursuits was rooted in the marginalization and disenfranchisement of enslaved and free black people.

In the system of segregation yes in all circumstances all black people are oppressed (socially and economically inhibited) no matter their wealth compared to the socially free whites of any class.

Yes it was. French colonial systems were different from Spanish and you can see it today in both Haiti and Dominican Republic. France was more focused on economic production while Spain wasn't as they had other areas for economic production. After Haitian independence, the French came and demanded payment for losing Haiti, Spain pretty much let her former colonies be.

>It doesn't speak on the economic engines of say rented out enslaved folks which was a common practice or the value of labor output on both unskilled or skilled labor.

we are still waiting on actual numbers on that, as the carribian and south america in general had major class and race division and little to none social programs, thus the profit from the slaves did went directly to their owners, that indeed bought goods and services that their slaves were unable to produce but that wealth was shared by others by actual transactions, not given freely

>Ultimately the institution of slavery socially and politically uplifted all white people who's works and labor from the pulpit to mercantile and other pursuits was rooted in the marginalization and disenfranchisement of enslaved and free black people.

A bold statement, given the high child mortality rates, liberation wars and massive criminal activity in the region. Indeed slavary was bad for everyone involved in the long run but to infer a group responsibility for everyone who existed in the region is doing you no service.

>In the system of segregation yes in all circumstances all black people are oppressed (socially and economically inhibited) no matter their wealth compared to the socially free whites of any class.

That is a hysteric statement bordering on schizophrenia. Class is far better division one could examine society by, compared to race. The latter would imply either a global conspiracy to suppress certain ethnicities or at the other end imply some ethnicities are absolutley incapable of doing anything right. It's a road or reasoning you should not want to take.

There is clear disparity between enslaved blacks and the Europeans poor or wealthy in slaving society.

There is clear economic and political differentiation between wealthy black and mixed race people and poor whites (note Oge's Revolt)

There is under no circumstance any way you can ignore that the pressures and conditions of the South and Caribbean did not disproportionately effect blacks over whites.

Anyway we can all agree that slavery was terrible, and be glad that whites fought and died to end it. Hopefully other races will someday reach the same level of compassion and enlightenment