Social Democracy

>Social democracy has already peaked user, Europe is going to move more towards the Anglosphere and rightfully so.
Yeah, I'm sure France and Germany are itching to ape US and Britain right now.

pretty much

Subtle natsoc post m8

>Social democracy has already peaked user, Europe is going to move more towards the Anglosphere and rightfully so.
For some reason I doubt this. If anything, with the youth in the US and the UK being enchanted by figures like Bernie and Corbyn and their strong leftist rhetoric, the Anglosphere is going to turn more towards the likes of Europe.

I'm speaking on aggregate. Pajeet is more successful and less crime-prone than Cletus.

I'm conservative, but seriously...Jesus Christ, you clearly don't understand what social democracy is

It doesn't really matter what Macron or Merkel want, FN and AfD aren't going away and they're only going to get stronger.

They're being enchanted more by figures like Trump and Farage. Not that I disagree with you, there is a growing polarization, but the right is growing faster as both sides become increasingly hostile to each other.

I'm not sure about Cletus, unless you have some kind of data that separates out Americans from African-Americans. I'd agree with you if you're just comparing everyone born in America in aggregate to Pajeets, but a disproportionate amount of that crime is Jamal and Juan, not Cletus. Not that Cletus doesn't commit his share of felonies. I'd be interested in how it compares if you removed Juan and Jamal though. Regardless, both sides would be best served by Pajeet improving India rather than running away to American to fuel right-wing populism.

Whats so bad about that? a mix of capitalism and socialism is best system

Sure, Pajeet is, but Mahmoud and Mwabele aren't, certainly not in Europe.

fuck off with that facebook-tier shit

>They're being enchanted more by figures like Trump and Farage. Not that I disagree with you, there is a growing polarization, but the right is growing faster as both sides become increasingly hostile to each other.
66% of UK youth voted Labour, virtually none voted UKIP. Similar situation with Bernie and Trump. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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The comic is criticizing social democracy and Stalinism from the left. IIRC the author is a leftcom.

*Legal* immigrants are better educated and have a lower crime rate.

>Trump and Farage
not with the youth, they enchanted the old reactionary fucks, and in the case of Trump was a political chameleon that everyone projected their desires onto despite his shitty personality. The youth went heavily for Bernie and were apathetic anout Hilary but still voted for her, while Labour crushed with the young in the last election.
if anything this decade can be seen as the last gasp of an old order, particularly in the US with the fundies desperately hitching their bandwagon the Trump to try to remain relevant, while sacrificing all their principles in the process

Surely you mean moderate oligarchy, OP? Obviously modern, Western government is not democratic.

Just as predicted by socialists, its impotence to stop neoliberalism will always be socdem's worst flaw

None of that happened under social democracy

That's absolutely not true for Trump, and it gets even more pro-Trump when you look at gen Z. I can't speak for the UK, but this coming generation of American youth is notoriously fiscally conservative, which should raise some questions considering most generations only get more conservative with age.
forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#4abffa737878
nationalreview.com/article/449249/cnns-donald-trump-feud-post-millennial-generation-z-rebellion
nypost.com/2017/07/01/why-the-next-generation-after-millennials-will-vote-republican/

The main point of those articles are about socially conservative not fiscally

>This is the power of social democracy

forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#286382337878
>According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system.
>But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security and job creation.

nypost.com/2017/07/01/why-the-next-generation-after-millennials-will-vote-republican/
>Politically, Generation Z is liberal-moderate with social issues, like support for marriage equality and civil rights, and moderate-conservative with fiscal and security issues

nationalreview.com/article/449249/cnns-donald-trump-feud-post-millennial-generation-z-rebellion
>Most, however, have ignored the reactionary post-Millennials who, despite holding liberal values on many issues, voted en masse for Trump

They're fairly split on where post-millenials lie socially depending on what study/source they're citing but they all agree that post-millenials are much more economically right than millenials.

Generation Z is only just reaching adulthood, and that depends on where you cutoff millenials and gen z, so frankly I'm going to take any polling about teenage to maybe youg adults political beliefs with a grain of salt (and there are fairly few surveys on the subject from what I've seen). Further the polls of high school students are between hillary and turmp, and hillary was notoriously shitty at attracting the youth vote (indeed if anything it's practically a three way split between them and not voting at all). I'd wait until 2020, barring the democrats running yet another retarded centrist who repeats the youth votes apathy in the last election, before I would draw any conclusions.

That said you're ignoring the fact the millenials will be the dominate voting block for a good while, and they're currently liberal as all hell.
I probably wouldn't use National Review as an unbiased source, they're clearly of a conservative bent, especially since that article is using r/The_Donald as an argument for youth energy

Even if I were to entertain the meme that is 'fiscally conservative/responsible', none of the articles mentioned any 'right-wing' economic policies they support or reject like the dismantlement of the welfare state or even the minimum wage. Even the last one barely mentions it. They just mention some attitude and views Gen Z. It is the social conservative that holds more weight coz there are examples of what policies and views Gen Z thinks and support

Social democracy is just a lame attempt of capitalism trying to save itself. It's a bandaid to a gashing wound.

Gotta hand it to the right, though. They've managed to convince people welfare / safety nets don't work by pre-emptively defunding those institutions and many people bought it. sad, desu

>I don't like capitalism
>We need more government
What in tarnation? I hope you're not a leftist, because you fundamentally don't understand leftist thought if you want more government.

t. political illiterate who thinks Bernie is literally Stalin

I hope your trips will help you realize not everyone is an anarchist like you. But yea welfare is anti-left.

We can talk about Generation Z voting patterns when they're old enough to vote.

>le liberal people get more conservative when they're older meme

They're itching to ape the United States' Neocon-Liberal policies.
Germany is the "new leader of the free world" after all.

tf? nigga where did I say that? I literally made fun of people who think using the state to fix the faults of capitalism are dumb and using a bandaid to fix a gashed, open wound. It's dumb.

>welfare is anti-left.
I know what you mean but u realize this is a majorly minority opinion on the left

social democrats ain't leftists tho'. democratic socialists are.

also false, because you can even get maoist, MLs, or anarchists to support welfare -- the trick is that none of them believe in welfare being the "key" to combat capitalism, but rather a way to help the working class temporarily.

>not real leftism

lol whatever u want to believe pal. ur stuck to democracy so the only thing that matters is popular opinion and ull be cucked by neoliberalism forever.

As opposed to the fact that it was literally created to keep the SPD out?

Social democracy is a centrist ideology for wanting to combine captialism (right) and socialism (left)

>captialism (right) and socialism (left)

We aren't in Revolutionary France anymore senpai

this. the oligarch memester is always correct.

This is the first presidential election where the oldest portion of Generation Z could vote.
>t. Gen Zer who voted Trump

Neoliberal social democracy is the ideal economic system

bumpu

As long as budgets are balanced, yes. Otherwise welfare needs to be limited, it's good in moderation but it can become a drug and bankrupt a nation.

it refined capitalism and made sure it existence for more time t b h