Hitler’s political campaign from before he came into power was campaigning against bolshevism/Marxism

6 million Jews, 14 million Slavs, Gypsies, Social Democrats, Catholics, members of the centre party, and other assorted viscera

Oh great, it's time for /pol/ trying to spread neonazi revisionism again.

>purposefully taking the broadest numbers currently not accepted in academia and proffered by the USHMM to make the nazis seem like bigger baddies

>404: revisionism not found

>Hitler was literally trying to prevent the Soviet Union from conquering all of Western Europe.
>by helping them take half of Poland, thus giving them a land border with Western Europe.
>by also sending them a bunch of materials and technological assistance during the M-R pact time.
>by also attacking and severely injuring the other two main Western European nations
what did he mean by this?

>Hitler was literally trying to prevent the Soviet Union from conquering all of Western Europe.

By helping the Soviet Union invade Poland?

allies and their friends wanted a war with Germany. 1. 1933 Judea declares economic warfare on Germany. Presumably because of what he said about them in Mein Kampf. "We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany." D. A. Brown, Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934. "Hitler will have no war, but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon'" Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June 1934. "We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany." Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Irgun terrorist group) in Mascha Rjetsch, January 1934. And in retrospect; "International Judaism has demonstrated by the course of the 20th century that it could start war" Tory MP Captain Archibald Ramsay, The Nameless War, 1952. 2, By 1936, Bomber Command had come into existence and long-range bombers start to be constructed. "The whole raison d'etre of Bomber Command was to bomb Germany should she become our enemy" J.M. Spaight of the Air Ministry. Those who wanted war started planning for it. 3, After the Treaty of Versailles, Germany had been chopped up. Germans had been separated from Germany and put into different nations and, with the huge economic growth of Germany in the 1930's, these people wanted to be a part of Germany again. Hitler was greeted with flowers and cheering crowds in Austria and the Sudetenland (then part of Czechoslovakia) when he "invaded". At Nuremberg, these were called "wars of aggression". Land that had been taken away from Germany and was now defined as Poland had, at most, a 50% native Polish population, and they were trying to assert a national identity very much by getting rid of people they thought of as outsiders and this was having catastrophic consequences.

"The "Peacemakers" in Versailles granted most of the German land militarily conquered by Poland long after the truce in 1918 to the newly made state of Poland. Under the non-aggression treaty, German newspapers were not allowed to report on Polish atrocities against the minority Germans, which led to the emigration of a million Germans." Danzig was also a big problem. Danzig, a German city, had been given to Poland after WW1. There was a lot of ill-feeling between the people there who felt they were German and the Poles. "Danzig was the most justified of German grievances: a city of exclusively German population which manifestly wished to return to the Reich and which Hitler himself restrained only with difficulty.........The destruction of Poland had been no part of his original project. On the contrary, he had wished to solve the question of Danzig so that Germany and Poland could remain on good terms......" A.J.P. Taylor The Origins of the Second World War. Germany asked to build a road and railway to Danzig. Poland did not even reply. In October 1938 Hitler made Poland an offer; i) Guarantee of Poland's boundaries and to protect it against Soviet Russia. ii) Return of the German Free State of Danzig, with road and rail connection. iii) Plebiscite to be given to West Prussia to see if they want to be Polish or German. Poland would get an open- seaport (Gdynia) Extend non-aggression pact.

Polands'response was to shell German civilians, 100,000 of whom had to flee to the woods or over the borders. Between March and August more than 70,000 had to be housed in German refugee camps and the aggression against Germans increased on a daily basis. British concerns about German "land grabbing" inspired the British War Guarantee, which enabled Poland to behave even worse towards the Germans living within their borders. German was proscribed as a language, German associations and newspapers were suppressed, the German consul in Krakow was murdered, etc. This nullified the Munich Agreement of 1938 (Germany and Britain working together to avoid war) and the Polish-German non-aggression pact." The effect of this was That the British promised to wage war against Germany if only Poland would get them into a war......even by aggression. Polish incitement of Germany escalated. Polish newspapers demanded the occupation of Danzig, all of East Prussia, in fact they advocated that Poland should push its border all the way to the Oder river, some again advocated the annexation of Berlin and Hamburg" William J. Scott, Deutsche Staatszeitung, March 20th, 2010. "Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to"- Poland's president Edward Rydz-Smigly in the Daily Mail, August 1939. The German minority had been disenfranchised in the 1920's and in the 1930's it was subjected to open terror, murder and rape, especially in the months leading up to September 1939. Germany could not escape......

6 gorillion*

>*conquers anti-communist czechslovaks and polish*
really makes me think!

Funny how those "Polish atrocities" that are always touted didn't happen.

It's well written with "sources" so it can trick some people, but he's obviously full of shit.

>British concerns about German "land grabbing" inspired the British War Guarantee
>This nullified the Munich Agreement of 1938 (Germany and Britain working together to avoid war) and the Polish-German non-aggression pact.
Except there is one problem.
British War Guarantee to Poland - 31 March 1939
German invasion on Czechoslovakia which nullified the Munich Agreement - 15 March 1939

Of course it's not the only lie.
>Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to
Fake quote. and Rydz-Smigly wasn't a president.

I'm curious about this, though.
>the German consul in Krakow was murdered

>Danzig, a German city, had been given to Poland after WW1
Really makes you think

Damn, I never knew about this. Saved

>Polands'response was to shell German civilians, 100,000 of whom had to flee to the woods or over the borders. Between March and August more than 70,000 had to be housed in German refugee camps and the aggression against Germans increased on a daily basis
A complete lie. Go back to your safespace Stormtard you will only get destroyed here.

This is what I like with /pol/, they want to do this with every minority but when it happen to what they consider their side we should feel bad for them. "It's only ok when we do it" is basically /pol/ motto.

>Between March and August more than 70,000 had to be housed in German refugee camps
I don't know if the number is right, but many Germans actually left Poland. And I can imagine that Polish nationalists were pretty aggressive towards Germans which were considered the fifth column.

The only place Germans and Poles had particularly sectarian fights was in Silesia, and that was in the 1920's

>allies and their friends wanted a war with Germany
No they didn't, they did just about anything to avoid it. The Allies had a causus belli against Germany since 1931 when reparation payments were suspended.

Not only the Allies allowed Germany to suspend reparations permanently at the 1932 Lausanne Agreement, they also ignored other violations of Versailles like:

- Rearmament of Germany in excess of what Versailles allowed (Already happened by the 1920s with Soviet help in housing German arms factories on its territory)
- German coup against the Austrian government (1934)
- Remilitarization of the Rhineland (1936)
- Anschluss with Austria expressly forbidden by Versailles, in a non-secret referendum where people were pressured to vote yes by the Nazis monitoring the polls (1938)
- Munich Agreement, Sudetenland given to Germany (1938)
- Munich Agreement broken, all of Czechoslovakia is invaded by Germany (Mar. 1939)

This is how much bullshit Hitler was allowed to get away with. At any of these points the Allies could have declared war on Germany, they had a causus belli. But they chose appeasement because they expressly did NOT want another Great War.

>1933 Judea declares economic warfare on Germany.
Some sensationist headline. When you actually look for the article it refers to a boycott of German goods by a single Jewish association in Britain. Which is understandable considering Hitler's anti-Jewish policies which manifested as early as 1933 when he banned all Jews from serving in academia and the civil service. (Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service of April 7, 1933)

>Long-range bombers start to be constructed.
A simple reaction to German militarization.

This always puzzles me. Why do stormfags always make out that said economic boycott is a big deal? It likely amounted to a almost inconceivably small fraction of economic activity in Germany.

Additionally, why would they even be surprised that a Jewish association would do this? Fuck, given the staggering persecution leveled against Jews even before the start of the war it makes complete sense that Jews outside Germany would frown on this.

I'm not talking about big fights or pogroms, but rather small-scale oppression. Breaking windows, bullying German kids in schools, firing German workers and so on. Polish government was also openly anti-German (or rather pro-Polish, all minorities were oppressed).

Germans were guaranteed special privileges actually, this only ended when Hitler left the League of Nations in one of his earlier sperg fits

>some jews say they won't buy shit from germany
>"OY VEY THE JEWS ARE DESTROYING GERMANY"

>implying they are not big baddies if the casualties would have been lower

>Hitler was greeted with flowers and cheering crowds in Austria
Organized by the Austrian government which was a literal Nazi puppet established by a coup.

>the Sudetenland (then part of Czechoslovakia) when he "invaded".
You forgot the rest of Czechia annexed in March 1939

>Poland had, at most, a 50% native Polish population
In 1931, 68.91% of Poland's population was Polish and only 2.32% was German.

web.archive.org/web/20140317212240/http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a18_1/apache_media/VUNVGMLANSCQQFGYHCN3VDLK12A9U5.pdf

>they were trying to assert a national identity very much by getting rid of people they thought of as outsiders
People that had bled for Germany, like the 100,000 German Jews that had served in the German Army during WW1

>Under the non-aggression treaty, German newspapers were not allowed to report on Polish atrocities against the minority Germans
This was not in the terms of the non-agression treaty. You just made it up.

>Danzig was also a big problem. Danzig, a German city, had been given to Poland after WW1.
Versailles established Danzig as an independent city-state. It was never part of Poland. The Nazis had controlled of the city since 1934 and its 1939 merger with Germany was a mere formality.

>In October 1938 Hitler made Poland an offer; i) Guarantee of Poland's boundaries and to protect it against Soviet Russia. ii) Return of the German Free State of Danzig, with road and rail connection. iii) Plebiscite to be given to West Prussia to see if they want to be Polish or German. Poland would get an open- seaport (Gdynia) Extend non-aggression pact
Once again Poland did not have authority over Danzig's government.

>Polands'response was to shell German civilians
[Citation needed]

>German was proscribed as a language, German associations and newspapers were suppressed
Not true, this happened after WW2

True, but that happaned in 1934.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Treaty_of_Versailles

>the German consul in Krakow was murdered
Can't find a reliable source for this being true, only a bunch of Stormfag websites repeating this copypasta, and a 2011 book by a German revisionist politician (Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof - NOT a historian) that affirms this in his book with no citation backing it.

>the British promised to wage war against Germany if only Poland would get them into a war......even by aggression.
[Citation needed]

>Polish newspapers demanded
>newspapers
Newspapers are not state actors. They can demand many things. It doesn't make them true or significant. I'm sure if I look hard enough I can find a Russian newspaper saying Americans should be lynched, it wouldn't give America the right to invade Russia.

>This nullified the Munich Agreement of 1938
It was nullified in March 1939 by Germany when Hitler carved up the rest of Czechoslovakia

>The German minority had been disenfranchised
Not true, they even had their own political parties like the German Social Democratic Party of Poland

>it was subjected to open terror, murder and rape, especially in the months leading up to September 1939
[Citation needed]

These are all either debunked lies, distorsions, or vague claims that seek to portray Germany as a victim instead of the clear aggressor it was.

Next time post some scholarly sources backing your stuff or fuck off.

the volksdeutsche in Poland were literally a 5th column though
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutscher_Selbstschutz

And this is why Veeky Forums hates /pol/

(((Scholarly)))

Not an argument

Hitler wouldve been a great leader whom would led Germany in a bright future if he wasnt all stuck up on the racial and jew things.

>Fucking jews controlling all the money, better kill them all LOL
instead of regulating nepotism?

>saving western europe
THEY LITERALLY STARTED THE AGRESSION
>saving
They were the icebreaker for the USSR to take over HALF OF EUROPE
>"b-but at least western was safe"
AND YOU GAVE FUCKING HALF OF EUROPE INSTEAD OF SAVING ALL EUROPE, and also lost half of the half od the country you had
ando also konigsberg = kalingrad

he spent too much time chasing his "new bourgeoisie" and being a hipster socialist rather than proving how you can correctly use keynesianism

It is literally Orwellian double-think. In the Stormfag's mind it's justified for Germany to annex and starve Poland in responsed to alleged "agressions" against "ethnic Germans" by private actors [most of these claims are bogus anyway], but somehow it is wrong for Jews overseas to boycott German goods in response to open racial discrimination, pogroms, store lootings, and confiscations againdt Jews being official German government policy since 1933. (Not to mention what came afterwards)

>sure, we'll look the other way while you re-arm
>sure, we'll look the other way while you re-militarize the rhineland
>sure, we'll look the other way while you annex austria
>sure, we'll look the other way while you dismember our ally

Clearly, ((((((((((Britain)))))))))) was hell-bent on war with Germany.
I really feel so bad for Chamberlain, he worked with Hitler in good faith, all logic and good sense was with him, who could want another war just 20 years after the war? Everyone knew how horrible war is but (((Hitler))) couldn't be reasoned with and he had to destroy Europe, costing millions of lives and ruining nationalism for all future generations.

>Hitler was literally trying to prevent the Soviet Union from conquering all of Western Europe.
Of course, he wanted to subjugate Europe himself.

>Meanwhile, Western Europe wages war on Germany.
If by "waging war" you mean bending over backwards to appease Germany at every turn?

>1933 Judea declares economic warfare on Germany.
Who was this "Judea"?
What did this "war" look like? How many tanks, planes & soldiers? What armies and navies were involved?How did international leaders react to this supposed declaration of war? Clearly this can't go unnoticed...
And where can one find a copy of the actual declaration of war itself, rather than the news report?
An alternate scan of this newspaper, of the same day exists. See here:

h-ref.de/feindbilder/juedische-kriegserklaerungen/judea-declares-war-morning.jpg

Two different versions of the same newspaper of the same day (a morning and evening edition). The morning edition in the linked image even states this was not an action, but a reaction to "medieval Jew-baiting" that was already going on in Germany.

So on March 24, 1933, the headline "Judea Declares War on Germany" was indeed splashed across the front page of the British newspaper Daily Express. The problem with this is there was no such thing as "Judea", no unified political entity, nevermind country, and no Jewish organization declared war on Germany. Sensationalist headline and likeminded hot air rhetoric aside, the article's actual content was about an economic boycott, and not an enacted one, but a proposed one: the only organization mentioned in the article, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, was scheduled to meet two days later to "discuss the German situation," but they did NOT end up supporting a boycott, for fear that this would only worsen the situation for Jews in Germany (per London Times, March 27, 1933) There's your proof.

The article also mentioned protests in many different cities without going into detail, apart from one at Madison Square Garden. But even there, the resolution was caution, rather than bold action.

If holocaust deniers still insist that there was a Jewish declaration of war on Germany, I kindly ask them to produce a copy of this as proof. Surely a newspaper article is a report ABOUT it and not the declaration of war ITSELF? It would indeed be hilarious if a non-country could declare war on a country via newspaper.

I would also like to lecture the denier crowd that National Socialist Germany itself did not react to this as a formal (or even informal) declaration of war. Instead, they denounced it as agitation and more proof of Jewish harassment and anti-German propaganda. Challenge to deniers: bring forth ONE German document or politician's speech from that time that took this newspaper headline at face value and recognized it as a declaration of war. Protip: you can't.

Some deniers have even claimed the German boycott of Jewish stores in the early days of April 1933 was a reaction to this, when again there is no connection they can make via documentary or speech evidence linking the two together. In fact, if these deniers had bothered to do more digging, they would find out the NSDAP had been existing since the 1920s, and calling for anti-Jewish activism since its beginning.

To claim the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses was a limited reaction, and then nothing of the sort ever happened again is beyond foolish. It was only the beginning.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_paragraph
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_über_den_Widerruf_von_Einbürgerungen_und_die_Aberkennung_der_deutschen_Staatsangehörigkeit

Haven't seen Stormtards get BTFO this bad in a while. Well done, dude.

That's a trans right?

>h-ref.de/feindbilder/juedische-kriegserklaerungen/judea-declares-war-morning.jpg
this link doesn't work, all i get is pic related

re-enter url if the image doesn't initially show

stormtards literally get their education from infographic memes

embarrassing.

still doesn't work, why not just post the image here

Don't forget about the Neo-Nazi blogs

Here you go

Oops, forgot pic

>Don't forget about the Neo-Nazi blogs

the blog reading types are preciously few because the attention span is too short. Reading paragraphs is reserved for divided reading between MGTOW blogs and ironically, PUA blogs. If they're particularly motivated, maybe some nonsense about fitness and nutrition.

>Hitler was literally trying to prevent the Soviet Union from conquering all of Western Europe.
literally teamed up with them

Nice revisionism

>b-b-btfo . That’ll show him! XD

jews are evil

Return to your board

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you got pretty low standards for what BTFO means

cry harder

>It's another unsourced /pol/ infographic episode

Butthurt stormtards with no arguments

see

Nobody is denying your "free speech" stormfag, we are just waiting for you to answer to the points raised in this thread.

Which you won't because you have no arguments or proof for your claims. As always whenever you are BTFO you revert to autistic meme posting and putting things between (((brackets))) instead of providing proper arguments.

Nice info graph meme

>brackets
>not parenthesis

So this is the IQ of the Ashkenazi...

You're welcome to bring your political beliefs here. What is not welcome is posting debunked infographs over and over again and calling everyone you disagree with a Jew with your little paranthesis meme.

>purposefully taking the lowest numbers currently not accepted in academia and proffered by the Veeky Forums.org/pol to make the nazis seem like gud bois

ah, yes, they just wanted to defend Europe from bolshevism after all

>Hehe we were just defending Europe from Bolshevism, untermensch!
>Never mind the millions of innocents we enslaved
>Never mind the millions we murdered
>Never mind the nations we destroyed
>Never mind all the war crimes, genocide, pillage, and wanton slaughter we perpetrated against Europe and even our own people! IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD, UNTERMENSCH!

Don't forget their literal alliance with the Bolsheviks.

>Nero kills himself when he hears Romans are coming to him
>Hitler kills himself when he realises it's all over
Like pottery.

>breaking versailles treaty
literally who cares, that scrap was worthless and not binding to the German nation, you can't hold an imposition over a subjugated people indefinitely and not expect them to break out, or you'd have to destroy them utterly

>When you actually look for the article it refers to a boycott of German goods by a single Jewish association in Britain.
False, the boycott was all over the West and focused in the US, led by Jewish attendant to the US treasury, Samuel Untermyer. It used to be a Jewish organization but Untermyer changed it's name to "non-sectarian" Anti-Nazi League to Champion Human Rights, and it lasted from 1933 until the US entered the war.

>Which you won't because you have no arguments or proof for your claims.
i listen to what jews say. they can tell the hard truth sometimes

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>there are both shitty threads defending communism and shitty threads defending fascism up right now
Where did Veeky Forums go wrong

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>false
So they mentioned what you said in that article? Also, can you show me some numbers regarding that boycott? How many Jewish organizations decided to boycott Nazi Germany?

>you can't hold an imposition over a subjugated people indefinitely and not expect them to break out
Yes, that's why Germans shouldn't be surprised when they were deported after the war. They should be happy they weren't genocided after what they did in Poland.

youtube.com/watch?v=FV-zcaJaf9w

thefuhrerbunker.com/WWII.htm

>Many times when you encounter holocaust deniers and they try to prove to you the holocaust is a hoax, they never seem to be able to focus on one issue. They are more than happy to leave the time period in question altogether, hop on their nazi time machine, and jump all over the place regarding the timeline of history when it comes to cherry picking their little world view, on how Jews are the root of all evil. From reminding us who killed Christ to Talmudic prophecy and numerology to the "Out of Khazaria" theory to the Napoleonic Wars and the Rothschild Family tree to secret societies like the Freemasons, Illuminati and Bohemian Grove, to who REALLY started WW1, to the early roots of the European Union, to modern day Israel and its mistreatment of Palestinians, it is nigh impossible to nail down a holocaust denier on the holocaust itself and discuss a topic (one aspect of this event that itself is extensive) at length. With this behavior, they make it almost impossible for someone to follow them through their time machine of antisemitism and prove them wrong on every account.
Hmmm...

Daily reminder the Nazis freed a Rothschild after paying a ransom. Literally let someone they hate free for shekels.

are there any actual good sources for polish massacres against germans before september 1, 1939?

well, at least you acknowledge jewsih role behind all thet things you mentioned so its not late for you