Who, wouldt winn a Battle. Napoleon or Frederick the great? But both with same equipment and strenght

Who, wouldt winn a Battle. Napoleon or Frederick the great? But both with same equipment and strenght.

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Napoleon, cause he knew how to use it.

Napoleon of course. How is this a question? Frederick was not that great strategist. I'm a Prussiaboo btw.

Why is Freddie considered "The Great"?

Napoleon lost against superer Enemys. Frederick, won agains Austria, Russia and France, even after 7 years of war.

cause he established Prussia as a leading European power, quite a feat for backwater shithole Brandenburg.

Freddy wasn't a military singularity like Napi, but he was definitely amongst the best combat commanders of his time. Also, find a true born king that did more battles in his time.

The key issue was that Nappy was a great tactician but a poor strategist. (Invade Russia? really now...)

While Freddie knew how to play off his opponents against each other.

I think Napoleon would win. Freddy´s tackticks based on his extrem diciplinatet Infantery. Napoleon was a good with artillery.

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Theres a point there, Freddy ultimately achieved his strategic goals, while Nappy failed.

Yeah. Nappy would win the battle, but if it was 10 year war, he would lose it.

His Russian invasion was supposed to be a lot slower but he got really aggressive and overextended himself

>his principal enemy's leader dies and the retarded son comes to the throne
>the retarded son is a major prussiaboo sperg and makes peace with Prussia because lol le cool pruzzianz xD
>wow Frederick sure is a strategic genius for knocking russian out of the war

Because he conquered all lands that were considered Prussian clay, because he introduced reforms that enabled even poor people to rise in society through hard work, because he introduced a proper judicial system, allowed complete freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and because he established Prussia as a European great power.

Which is true, but OP specifically asked who would win a single battle with equal strength. In a single battle, Napoleon is the superior commander and tactician.

Nappy would win the battle, the war Freddy.

I know and I admire him but compared to Napoleon he was just a petty king who learned some strategy and was better at it than other inbred fools. Meanwhile Napoleon was a pure genius.

>wins six wars
>"lol nappy can't win a war"

better question
Who, wouldt winn a Battle. Napoleon or Washington?
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Well the reason he invaded Russia was that they were trading with UK but weren't really at war with the French at that time. Nappy actually met with the Tsar about and they hit it off fairly well as he got the Tsar to agree to go to war with UK and Britain.

Although Russia took Finland, they didn't do anything to UK and still continued to trade with them. This pissed Nappy off as Alexander gave him his personal word, so he thought he could invade to change the Tsar's to be a better ally.

Chances are Russia would have not sided with UK, but since Nappy attacked they rejoined the coalition.

Nappy, for shure, But Nappy and Lee?

Look. Creating a Franchise where you have rabid fans freak out about chicken dipping sauce is one thing, but if you create a franchise that gets you to win the war is another.

If the Prussians had shit uniforms and acting abilities the Prussiaboo would have piked the UK as a model.

>proper judicial system
>ALR

The fuck are you talking about?

Technically it was all one war since the French Revolution and he lost the only war that counted.

>(Invade Russia? really now...)
Don't invade Russia only became a meme because of Napoleon. They'd lost a number of wars beforehand where they were invaded, and indeed they lost in ww1 as well.

lel, I´t seems like you have no idea about prussia. The UK also have some good story, but evethinh what they did is killing indians and nibbas.

Washington was a shit tactician and strategist. If the French navy wasn't threatening the British sugar colonies, then he would have lost hands down.

He lost the battles for New York and Philadelphia for instance.

A better suggestion would be if Stonewall or Napoleon would win a division level battle.

Germany didn't invade Russia in WWI, instead they hungered them out. Big difference.

They wer in russia during WW1, but not so fare from the boarder.

Russia got beat several times throughout history.

Swedes did it.
UK did it.
Germany did it (WW1 only).

However, you can't occupy their country and push to Moscow.

Germany only got them to surrender because the Russian military got tired of Nicki's shit and Germany sent Lenin back to start a revolution.

WW1 Germany only occupied Ukraine and the Baltics, but they had no capability to occupy Moscow or Petrograd.

When the Swedes defeated the Russians they stayed in the Baltics and when they did go deep in Russia they lost 20,000 troops and King ran away (that Sabaton song)

UK never left the Crimea and eventually left after Russia signed the peace treaty.

Japan never bothered to invade deep Siberia.

See its really easy to defeat the Russians on the battlefield but you aren't going to occupy their lands. That was Nappy's mistake.

If he had to go to war with them, he should have just fought their armies in Poland.

I think with Muskets Napoleon would wein, with "modern" rifels Stonewall. Nappy liked to charg in the enemy line.

But the russians keep retreating. They didnt want to fight.

Fun fact, while German troops where fighting inside the Russian empire, they did not reach Russia itself until way after the February Revolution 1917. By blocking the black sea and the baltic sea Germany strangled Russia.

To be fair though he was pretty much saved by the fact the fact a retard inherited the throne when they were at the point of collapsing.

Both sucked hard.
Illyro-pelasgo MASTERRACE.
Alexander would beat them both.

Illyro = mountainmonkey

History is so strange. The greatest German strategist and statesman was a flaming faggot who probably sucked Voltaire dick.

>greatest German strategist
Who is von Clausewitz?
>statesman
Who is von Bismarck?

>The greatest German strategist and statesman
Freddy was neither of those things, mind you.

they wher pretts goodlike, but not the same topic I would say.
Maybe Bismarck vs. Rothschild.

>Clausewitz
Arguably Moltke was better.

Yeah, you're right. I only remembered a nice story but I researched it and it was a legend. But apparently he was a virtuous ruler:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_Mill_of_Sanssouci#Legend

>But apparently he was a virtuous ruler:
yup en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Machiavel

Do it again Napoleon

>who probably sucked Voltaire dick
Freddy knew Voltaire was a piece of shit

Prussia only survived the 7 years war because a retard rose to the russian throne, don't forget that

>he hated women so he must've been GAY!
Imagine being this cuntcucked

Risking your life and defying your authoritarian king father threatening to elope with your bro is just bros being bros right

This but the opposite

Nappy

but Fritz would probably give him a run for his money

>inbred
Frederick would have been less inbred than any other leader of a Great Power at the time except possibly Georges in England. The reason inbreeding was such a problem is because the heir to the throne wasn't supposed to marry below their status, so as your family became more powerful you became more inbred. But Prussia never really had that problem, because they never achieved that level of power until after German Unification and by then Willy was on a crash course with destiny.

DO IT AGAIN NAPOLEON

Yes faggot.

do it again Napoleon

Frederick would get depressed, cry and commit sudoku.

Napoleon would walk over him.

He would have gotten away with it if the Russians hadn't BURNED DOWN THEIR OWN FUCKING CAPITAL

>He would have gotten away with it if the Russians hadn't BURNED DOWN THEIR OWN FUCKING CAPITAL
Moscow wasn't their capital.

Because he went from 'king in Prussia' to 'king of Prussia' apparently taking a crumbling kingdom with the help of two empires makes you great
Napoleon easily because although Napoleon was an atheist, God wouldn't let a faggot proddy and Proto-PETA win

>Because he went from 'king in Prussia' to 'king of Prussia' apparently taking a crumbling kingdom with the help of two empires makes you great
t. average assblasted Veeky Forumstorian who didn't read about Frederick