Which one is best?

Wait what? Why does it make you angry? Just learn tolerance and don't let your anger out like that.

Whomst'd'veism.

>technically atheism is a religion
He implied atheism was a religion but I don't think it is, it's merely a belief system.

Why wouldn't it be a religion?

I'm pretty sure religions have criteria. It needs to be an organized group with some kind of core system of beliefs, who meet regularly in some form. And I'm pretty sure a religion must have an explicitly stated being or object of worship. If anyone can provide counterexamples I have no problem changing my definition.
I don't think atheism is a religion in the same way that believing in a god is not a religion. Mormons and christians both believe in God, but are not the same religion.

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What?

Atheism is a worldview, not a religion

I know what you think, it's your argument that doesn't make sense to me.

A person can be an atheist and never engage in activities that all religions seem to possess: Organization, regular meetings, and explicit worship of a particular person or object. If I told you "I believe in God," that would not be enough information to qualify me into a specific religion, because it's a belief without specific affiliation.

>Organization, regular meetings, and explicit worship of a particular person or object.
Where are you getting the idea that this is something common to all religions?

To clarify, the second bit about believing in God is meant to illustrate that any belief, including atheism and theism, cannot be considered a religion by itself.

All of the major religions share those properties

[citation needed]

Are you seriously asking me to manually compile the doctrines and practices of all major religions to prove this to you? I bear the burden of proof, but I thought these properties were intuitively evident. To most people this would not require citation or further explanation.

So you expect me to just take your definitions at your word without any citations? You're even more of a retard than I thought. Why do people get so mad here when someone asks them for a citation? Don't answer, we all know why.

I'm not him but you're the retard in this argument. kys and go back to youtube's comment section

Oh yeah I forgot, wanting sources makes you retarded

Here you go. From Merriam Webster

Is there a conception of God which see it only as the act of creation of this universe, and emphasize the inability of humans to understand its essence due to the limits of our perception, kinda like agnostics, but also reject the possibility that it may have any anthropocentric concerns at all, as God created a great deal of suffering on this Earth and obviously don't give a fuck about humans ?
It is in a way quite related to pantheism, but I feel like it is more than this.

Deism?

>the sky is blue
>cite your sources for that
>no, that's retarded
>OH SO BACKING UP STATEMENTS IS RETARDED HUH?

He's not expecting you tondo anything you retard, he's making an argument. It's funny that even he conceded he doesn't know everything and is open to counteragruments to change his position but you are just acting like a faggot instead of saying anything o value whatsoever.

Communism

>no moral code
>all morals incorrect
kek

>tfw there are literal religicucks on Veeky Forums now

How is atheism a religion?

I thought Nihilism was edgy, but there's truth to it. Morality is a concept created by humanity, but that doesn't mean we should dismiss them and act however we please. There is no life after death, and what happens during most of our lives will not hold much significance. Half of us are going to live average lives, and die an average man. What's wrong with that?

>no religious code
>all religions incorrect

will to gnosis

agnostic. also stop leaving out variants, your box of religion only covers some of the main ones.

Nihilism isn't telling you to disregard created morality and do whatever you want. That's more like hedonism.

Pro-tip: nihilists don't really exist

Objective Western Power Levels

God Tier
>Pantheism
Elite Tier
>Scientology
Mid Tier
>Asatru
>Traditionalist Christianity
Fedora Tier
>Atheism
>Agnosticism
Cuck Tier
>Progressive Christianity

>not listing igtheism

Get the fuck off the board

See

This goes for you as well

That's fedora tier, son.

Since when is atheism darwinism?

The position that every theological position assumes too much about the concept of God is true objectively though.

All of the above you reductionist baby.
>oooh, it's so IMPORTANT to find a club I can feel I belong to! Oooh, which category of belief am I? Oooh, which Friends character would I be?
Fucking grow up.

True nihilists would kill themselves. The suffering of life isn't worth it if you truly are nihilistic.

Athiesm may not be a religion, however athiests have faith just like religious people. Athiests just have faith in rationality/science. When asked about questions of consciousness and other things currently unknown they usually say that science will eventually get there. That's faith.

Not when results can be replicated you retard.
Saying people have faith in something proven by the scientific method is a far stretch of the words meaning

Nihilism isn't a statement about morality.

what if you embrace absurdity and live on regardless of sufffering?

or maybe life isn't actually that miserable, maybe it's mostly enjoyable, you don't know.

>that atheism position
Atheism is the rejection of a claim. Nothing more, nothing less.

All that Darwinist stuff and even the claim about "humans thinking they're important" is entirely tangential, and merely different conclusions which may be drawn given different evidence. None of it is inherent to atheism because atheism is very simple.

>Rick and Morty for nihilism
You're a memester OP, I'll give you that much

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Read what I said. You have faith that science/rationality WILL figure out things that are mysteries now. You don't know if there will be a comprehensive, well-sourced theory of consciousness from a materialist POV, but you probably have faith that one will come around eventually.

You're just trying to be a contrarian. Life is undoubtedly suffering. You get hungry, sick, tired, sore, and eventually die. You can't do whatever you want and people expect things of you. If you don't pursue something meaningful then you get depressed or apathetic. Things very seldomly go the way you wish they did. Life is definitely suffering. The only way to justify that suffering is to live a meaningful life.

Are you a psychic mind reader?
You don't know what other people actually believe until you actually stop talking and just ask them.

i'm also not him or the other guy but it seems like the other guy is the retard here

>You're just trying to be a contrarian. Life is undoubtedly suffering.
Or maybe I'm not being contrarian, maybe life is undoubtedly great. You don't know.

I try not to make assumptions about what anons believe, but if I had said "explain consciousness then athiests haha checkmate" you would respond most likely one of two ways: 1) Some partial theory/speculation how consciousness came to be. 2) You'd say that an explanation would come around eventually. Sorry for assuming. Do you actually believe science won't come out with theories about unexplained phenomena?

Your on Veeky Forums. Your life can't be that great

religion

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>shroom dealers
Classic.

>le Veeky Forums is only for losers
I thought this meme died a decade ago

Agnosticism. But actual Ingersol and Clifford style agnosticism, not the wishy washy bullshit that most people associate the the term nowadays. It's basically the only intellectually honest position to take when it comes to belief in Gods: without proof there's no reason for belief, and because it's not a falsifiable question, it can't be answered anyway.

>it's another dumbshits can't define their terms episode

Existentialism. It's the natural evolution of nihilism.

Agnosticism, but with more open stance to exploration. Just because we can't answer secrets of the Universe, it doesn't mean that we won't be able in future.

Deism is the best worldview.

>Saying people have faith in something proven by the scientific method is a far stretch of the words meaning
Universe is a hologram, reality is an illusion, buy gold.

Oh boy a dictionary definition
You really are brilliant

Someone read Demons I see.

Apatheism

The universe is an experiment set up by higher beings testing out different laws of physics.

I don't see Absurdism anywhere on that list

Even though other have already said this, I'm getting deist vibes

>Morality is a concept created by humanity, but that doesn't mean we should dismiss them and act however we please
Why? By you saying we shouldn't do something aren't you declaring a form of objective morality?

A true nihilist wouldn't even bother killing themselves.

Hedonists are nihilists without the self awareness