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What were they thinking?

He did nothing wrong

Seemed like a good idea at the time

Crusaderstates in the levante worked, why shouldn't they in greece

>crusader states
>working

The person in that picture is not Enrico Dandolo but Andrea Gritti, who was the Doge of Venice during the Italian wars.

Shouldn't have taken Venetian peoples shit
Byzantines deserved it

>Crusaderstates in the levante worked
you might want to freshen up your memory on that part of history kek

They were thinking "Lets speed up the destruction of the last great empire and destroy the buffer between us and muslims so our ancestors have to fight them in fucking vienna in a few hundred years"

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>being constantly under attack by a more powerful nation
>still managing to survive for 200 years

The Islamic world was only unified to attack the crusader states for brief periods, during which they generally managed to btfo them

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>unified to attack
>btfo crusaders
hmm and yet they still managed to survive

The only thing the muslims really cared about was Jerusalem, and they captured that twice when they stopped fighting each other

You act like the whole islamic world united winning against a fragmented segment of feudal Europe, separated by the rest of its civilization, essentially occupying a territory inhabited by the enemy is some sort of achievement. If anything the fact that it took the whole islamic world united to take on the crusaders is a remarkable statement of their strength, which you appear to be denying.

You're kidding right? All of the Crusader states succumbed to military conquest by surrounding Muslims

I mean that they were fighting against each other more than against the crusaders. It's not that the fatimids couldn't have eventually defeated the crusaders, but that the crusaders just weren't a top priority
Only once the mamluks took control and viewed the crusaders as allies of the mongols

>I mean that they were fighting against each other more than against the crusaders.
You mean just like the crusaders themselves? It's not like the KOJ was anymore unified than same period France or Germany. More than a few defeats incurred by the crusaders can be attributed to infighting too.
>It's not that the fatimids couldn't have eventually defeated the crusaders
Again, do realize that thinking the crusaders needed to be the top priority of a much larger polity to be defeated is actually praise of their strength, not a statement of their weakness.

>you mean like the crusaders themselves
Sure? That's not my point
>is a praise of their strength
Not particularly. The fatimids just cared more about the sejuks and zengids than some franks on the Syrian coast

>implying the Byzantines weren't as much if not more of a menace to them as the Turks
Seriously, read Byzantine politics. When they're not blinding each other, they're constantly fucking with everyone else because muh Imperium Romanum. They were giant dicks and they deserved an ass kicking. Idk why Byzaboos always ride their cocks.

How did they manage to outfuck the Byzantines (who totally deserved it) and lost to the biggest nobodies in Europe?

>biggest nobodies in Europe
While they aren't as influential as bulgarians wish and say they were. The bulgarian empires were quite formidable on the battlefield in certain eras. Furthermore the Crusaders cucked the Romans mostly politically, while the bulgars were fighting in those lands for almost 600 years by the time of the Crusade.

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>the greatest statesman of Eastern Europe at the time
>2 fierce Czars that most resemble their ancestor Krum

Bulgarians were not nobodies. Never mind the help they got from their even wilder friends North of the Danube

>Idk why Byzaboos always ride their cocks
Because Muh Imperium Romanum. Durrrrrrrrrrrr

They were thinking about Gold. Plunder. That's as simple as it is. These faggots thinking that the Byzantines deserved it are retarded. The Byzantines only ever wanted MERCENARIES that they could PAY. The Catholics sent murdering zealots that only headed their own orders, and later Kings and pillaging losers. This was a colossal strategical fuckup, and geopolitically lost the Western world Anatolia forever.

Thanks.

On art historical grounds it was the worst sack in human history