Empire of Japan lasted almost 2000 years to be the longest and most stable empire of all time

>empire of Japan lasted almost 2000 years to be the longest and most stable empire of all time

Doesn't this btfo the "strong times weak men" arguments?

No, but the fact that parafascist Imperial Japan got devastated in WW2 and turned into the castrated degenerate nation we all know and love certainly does. (The same can be said of Nazi Germany by the way.)

>Japanese emperor
>Actually having power

I don't think he implied that in any way.

It's a stupid theory but in the case of Japan you could apply it to the various regimes being overthrown and replaced. The emperors were puppets for most of Japanese history and the groups controlling him changed. Sometimes a regime change entailed civil war and a period of disunity.

I didn't. I was implying that if the strong times weak men civilization model was true, Japan would have collapsed and not reached such a milestone

Well i have mentioned this in a thread before. Japan had a very long strong man period, far longer than any other nation. this was due to the fact they were extremely isolationist on their island.

>Japan had a very long strong man period
Like, how long?
Give dates.

Japanese emperors was more like pope than an actual emperor, the real power lies in the Shogun

Its worth noting that Japan lost its empire while it was ruled by 'strong men', because they were so autisticaly devoted to the idea of military expansion that they failed to see how it would bite them in the ass.

They look like chinks here ughh

>empire of Japan lasted almost 2000 years

Yes?

>empire of Japan lasted almost 2000 years
[citation needed]

>Empire of japan
>Stable
oh well, then i guess all their civil wars during the middle ages were just for shits and jiggles

The emperors had little to no power. The shoguns were the true political leaders until the Meiji restoration

japan was never in good times. just normal throughout.

Japan empire was like the Holy Roman Empire, a meme.

There's no controversy at all that it lasted over 1500 years. I guess the claim might be inaccurate depending on where you draw the line for "almost 2000 years" (1700? 1800? 1900?) but it's nothing to you need to feign shock about.
It's "officially" over 2500 years old according to legend.

Their stability is quite enviable even accounting for the civil wars.

>There's no controversy at all that it lasted over 1500 years
[citation needed]

The Japanese emperor only recently became the head of state. The Imperial Family were more like hereditary popes than actual rulers for most of Japan's history.

Why do people keep pointing this out?

Because they were never responsible for making either hard times or good times, so it does not argue against the strong men - good times theory at all, as retarded as it is.

Read about the Sengoku period and you know about how powerless was the Emperor and why "empire" is not a good name for the old japan.

Because Shogun's were deposed, devastating civil wars wreaked havoc across the country and instability was rife at times. Just because the emperor wasn't removed, doesn't mean the country was "stable", especially when true power lied in the hands of another figure.

Are YOU retarded? Do you think people are claiming Queen Elizabeth is responsible for millennials in the ""United" "Kingdom""? Obviously not. Just like no one actually believes Hirohito or Akihito had anything to do with hentai porn.
Even in countries where monarchs had more than symbolic power, the subjects (including statesmen) were responsible for whatever happened.

Nigger there are literally kingdoms that didn't even have kings sitting on the throne at various points and we still call them kingdoms because they were formally kingdoms, you can fuck right off.

>he thinks he's arguing against me when all he does is just further prove that the OP is bullshit

How does it prove that the OP is bullshit?

Because the faction in control of the state changed hands multiple times during the "empire's" two thousand year history. There's no continuity.

>implying good times