>Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same.
What the fuck were those 16 other men doing? watching porno?
Wageslaving for chief chad and dying young. Women are a meme
Michael Perez
Putting benis in anus :DDD
Jose Williams
Probably being used as cannon-fodder, killed in raids and sieges or being cucked by nobility.
Women who survived wars and sieges often ended up as sex slaves.
Benjamin Ortiz
Imagine in your head a man, and then imagine seventeen women standing around him. That is fucking insane.
And every single woman you've ever met is a descendant of these women...
Andrew Bailey
The virgin human vs the Chad Neanderthal
Julian Reyes
>sex slaves. >this tired meme again
Daniel Ortiz
Humans get all of their Neanderthal DNA from the female offspring of a male Neanderthal and a female human
Justin Ward
stop barbposting reee
Grayson Carter
>What the fuck were those 16 other men doing? working the fields while the chief sat around
Connor Gutierrez
their babies died, the dude died before women could become pregnant, the kid died etc
machoism is a new thing
Angel Perez
>working the fields while the chief sat around But why? Why didn't the 16 men do something about it
Aaron Gutierrez
killing each other probably tired of the prehistoric communist paradise meme
Isaiah Anderson
I remember reading a theory about how religious concepts such as clergy and monasteries were invented as a way to give the more beta males of society a role that didn't involve them taking part in breeding. Sort of like a proto-eugenics program.
Blake Stewart
>their babies died, the dude died before women could become pregnant, the kid died >etc
This person has shown a total lack of understanding when it comes to the very simple idea laid out in the op. Great fucking job. It's incredibly how stupid you are
Juan Davis
>And every single woman you've ever met is a descendant of these women... So, what are the implications of this?
Carter Cooper
Source?
The statement, not the pic
Owen Hall
>What the fuck were those 16 other men doing? Being dead probably.
Evan Diaz
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Asher Brooks
Getting cucked. Such's been life for the human species for the majority of our times
No. Humans are monogamous. Early civilization was the only time were this happened.
Grayson Roberts
Post the theory. It sounds pretty retarded.
There is no way this happened all at once. How the fuck can a Neolithic farmer feed 17 women and their children?
John Perry
WRONG
All Neanderthal and human breeding involved a human male and Neanderthal female
Isaac Gomez
>Such's been life for Men for the majority of our times Ftfy
Noah Adams
The sexual free market needs to be regulated. The ancients understand this. Don't let society be re-haremized. End Feminism and restore the patriarchy today!
Jordan Moore
>falling for the woman meme
Aaron Cook
How much you want to bet you are wrong?
Sebastian Thompson
It's called the Pussy Age for a reason user.
Jack Johnson
Provide a source then. No Neanderthal Y dna has been found it is all maternal.
Parker Baker
Dying as workers and/or soldiers.
Wyatt Harris
Thanks
Cameron Bennett
Reread what I wrote >Humans get all of their Neanderthal DNA from the female offspring of a male Neanderthal and a female human >the female offspring The daughter of a male Neanderthal and a female human has no Y chromosome
Asher Perez
Uh? wondering what fucking idiot would believe this bullshit maybe? >only a few males pass on their genes demonstrably untrue
Luke Bailey
You just know this is a woman
Mason Bell
Provide a source then, the consensus is that it was male cro magnon x female Neanderthal mothers giving birth to female hybrids, not Neanderthal fathers and human mothers, unless I'm remembering incorrectly. How would Neanderthals males be the winners in a hybridization scenario? They were the ones who were wiped out.
Austin Edwards
>demonstrably untrue demonstrate how its untrue then
Robert Bennett
>How would Neanderthals males be the winners in a hybridization scenario? They were the ones who were wiped out. The human men fucked plenty of Neanderthal women it's just that the hybrids never reproduced or were killed off in the womb of the mother
Aiden Nguyen
How come no one ever answers my question? How would a Neolithic farmer feed 17 other women and his offspring with them when we've barely left subsistence agriculture? Almost without a doubt, this was a gradual process and the degree of polygyny was nowhere near 17 to 1.
Juan Foster
How does chad fuck a different girl every weekend while armies of incels punch in for their wage slave jobs everyday without ever holding hands with a woman? The matriarchy and institutionalized feminism, that's how.
Jose Robinson
>How would a Neolithic farmer feed 17 other women and his offspring Do you think the other men were just twiddling their thumbs? No, they were working the fields
Xavier Adams
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Andrew Bailey
You're a fucking retard
Evan Morales
>How come no one ever answers my question? you don't propose anything you just cry that its bullshit
Xavier Reed
I didn't realize matriarchy and institutionalized feminism was a thing in the Chalcolithic age
Leo Cruz
Most men are just completely oblivious to how much pussy some men get. And these aren't movie stars, these are men you see everyday.
If the average man could see just how easily some men get women they would be shocked out of their minds. They just don't have a clue
Logan Anderson
>heh I'll just tell him to go to /pol/ because I can't refute That's how you know you've lost.
Jordan Gray
Don't fucking start this bullshit you fucking piece of shit.
Alexander Ross
Can you provide a source stating it was Neanderthal males x crogmanon females.
Henry Cox
>>Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. They were obviously nu-males brainwashed by feminism while females rode the cock carousel
Xavier Robinson
>spew out bullshit >ppl tell u to fuck off >your face when
Adrian Adams
it could be a combination of war and dominance hierarchy, which goes together so it makes sense, like, maybe they came to a gridlock that required all males to be part of strictly organised fighting groups, and then these functioned same as packs in sexual selection, the top fucks just got to fuck way more
strangely there arent that many miths about the time people started settling down into agrarian comunities
Juan Myers
The Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.
Juan Gomez
No, I can't. I was actually just talking out my ass.
Angel Watson
I'm talking about the very real limits of agriculture back then, something grounded in hard science and not TRP retardation. You are making a retarded analogy about a guy living in a densely populated city with bars, in an era where he has access to Tinder, to a fucking farmer in the sticks barely growing enough to feed himself with the shitty plants and techniques. Go grow a fucking brain.
Please prove this.
No, I'm asking you to prove your retarded theory and you're just telling me it's not important, I'm just being a crybaby. How fucking stupid do you have to be to believe this?
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Well user, at least you admit it, you're head and shoulders above most posters.
Xavier Torres
>prove your retarded theory Nigga it's literally the only possible interpretation of the data.
Kevin Ward
women and children work fields just fine you know
Benjamin Jenkins
In fact, women and children are often the ones working the fields and harvesting food in early agricultural societies while men are still going out hunting and herding cattle and doing generally unproductive but fun macho stuff. Having a better female-to-male ratio might actually increase relative food production.
Kevin Taylor
>prove your retarded theory I don't have any theory. Do you think the data showing more women than men reproduced is inaccurate?
Adam Diaz
It's not that every generation had a 1:17 ratio its that the ones that lasted until today ended up with that ratio.
Dylan Jones
No, the data is saying that the male line bottleneck occurred roughly 8,000 years ago. It does not imply that male farmers managed to kill all their hunter gatherer counterparts in one generation and took all their women. What I am arguing is that this was a lot more gradual than the OP is making it to be, which is on its face fucking ludicrous.
Leo Davis
Not necessarily all, but certainly most. Beyond that, the base population discrepancy between Neanderthal man and us was massive, we outnumbered them substantially. Their genetic signature would have necessarily been washed out and widely distributed over time, and given paternal decay potential early Neanderthal Y-dna contributions have almost certainly washed out as well as other relatively archaic known Sapiens' signatures.
Logan Miller
you're delusional
Liam Lewis
Religious clergy were those were asexual or homosexual and figured they were anointed by God not to reproduce and be married by the such. Smarter people tend to have low sex drives anyways, makes sense since people in the clergy would need higher IQs.
Justin Wright
>a fucking farmer in the sticks barely growing enough to feed himself with the shitty plants and techniques you have no idea what you're talking about.
>women and children are often the ones working the fields and harvesting food >in early agricultural societies while men are still going out hunting >and herding cattle and doing generally unproductive but fun macho stuff
>herding cattle >unproductive
Oblivious thot, do you know what oxen happen to be good at?
Elijah Wilson
Wars were the social outlet for beta males not getting laid to get their chance at raping women and terrorizing normies. Literally entire armies (Vikings, Italian mercenaries, Mongols, etc) were recruited on the promise of loot and rape.
Today we have cartoon frogs and videogames to fulfill the same purpose.
Jordan Wood
>you have no idea what you're talking about. What a persuasive argument
Jose Hill
That's Barbara Palvin
Robert Baker
This is all you have
Leo Turner
not that user, but yes, i know what oxen are good at, and horses too, and women are good at things, but the one main point is a cardinal thing that human males are especially good at, and thats organised armed violence
when was the bronze age collapse again? does it maybe coincide, no?
Isaac Cruz
>Bronze Age Collapse >8000 years ago Neck yourself
Oliver Stewart
it's not an argument, it's an implied insult via statement of fact. Thankfully it doesn't have to be an argument.
>You are making a retarded analogy This is not an argument. I'm not even that guy. This entire period was during the climatic optimum, the Chalcolithic period in Europe.
>we've barely left subsistence agriculture You're just fucking wrong.
Do you even know what you mean by "work fields"? It's a varied and numerous set of different tasks that normally have to be completed sequentially.
Eli Fisher
>women are good at things substantiate >when was the bronze age collapse again ~1177, why?
sauce
Jordan Peterson
one word
neg
Alexander Brown
Again you're not even addressing crop yields at all. You're just putting your fingers in your ears screaming "YOU'RE WRONG". Prove to me a farmer using only stone tools, barely domesticated grains, and organic fertilizer can successfully feed 30 other people.
Nathaniel Miller
THIS WASNT ME
Jonathan Reed
This is your mind on feminism
Joshua Robinson
LMAO you're all over the fucking place
In this case it was
Chase Sanchez
>assuming men always support their families Take a walk through the ghetto, tell me how many fathers you see with their children.
Logan Green
>fathers abandon their children >mothers murder them before they are even born
Adrian Martinez
t. citycucksexualhomo Growing grass is super hard durrrrrrrrr
Isaac Ortiz
40-50% no lie. >crop yields do you even know what they were growing? Keep in mind people had beer at this point.
John Turner
There is no way that 50% of men reproduce
Charles Martin
Mostly not having anyone to fuck because women died in colossal numbers during childbirth; which was probably aggravated because agriculture enabled hitherto impossible concentrations of people.
Juan Nguyen
referring directly to a specific rate of abortion.
>There is no way that 50% of men reproduce Your sentence structure is so bad, the statement is vague and can be taken to mean diametrically opposed posits.
Nicholas Morris
its amazing how fucking dumb some of you are
Jack Howard
There is no way my sentence structure is bad
Hudson Miller
It really is amazing. People don't understand that technology and infrastructure isn't just for material things, it's also for institutions like marriage and monogamy. We're basically devolving into cavemen, burning down the remnants of civilization that our ancestors built but which we no longer understand.
>The Vinča site of Pločnik has produced the earliest example of copper tools in the world.
Elijah Edwards
Oh my god you just got fucked hard
Lincoln Powell
>devolving no such thing as "devolving". Evolution is merely adaptation to change. For example: we no longer need to breed like rabbits just so that a few children make it to adulthood, so people are not having as many children in order to pool resources and maximize the chances of success for the 2 or 3 that they are having.
Chase Sanders
Do you wear glasses?
Dominic Brooks
That is true that women did tend to work fields while men went to go hunt and tend to cattle. Several less developed societies today have women tending to fields while men go out to hunt and raise cattle. Both are very important for an agricultural society.
Brody Martin
not the guy you replied to but concubinage wasn't a thing?
Parker Walker
>less developed societies your terminology is problematic, implying women working in agriculture indicates a lesser degree of development doubly so.
It even seems like you're attributing agriculture itself with being lesser developed socially, which is a weird thing to assert.
Owen Anderson
>reddit spacing
Landon Barnes
Like no myths about second generation gods deposing first generation gods?