In order to achieve a stateless society we must eliminate private property and hand it over to the state...

>In order to achieve a stateless society we must eliminate private property and hand it over to the state, and of course abolish family and inheritance
>ok but there will people who will refuse to give their property
>Then you just kill them. We the enlighten people know what is better for them
This is how 90% of europeans think. This is why I believe muslims conquering europe is a good thing; it's better to live under oppressive muslim rule and have your basic rights intact (even though they will humiliate you) than end up living in labor camps until you die of hunger or disease

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Better dead than red comrade however if you want to live you better change to ''better ruled by muzzies than red''

>This is how 90% of europeans think.
If that's how 90% of Europeans thought, the continent would be politically dominated by hardcore communists, instead of by social democrats and liberals, as it actually is.

>Social democrats
>Not the same as communists
They have the same goal and objectives. Social democrats think it's better to use capitalism to slowly move to communism while hardcore communists want to go to the end phase right now
However it doesn't mean the social democrats won't support a sudden change very fast when they get the opportunity
You just need to create a fake enemy (oh the nazis are coming) and these social democrats and liberals will support a blood revolution.
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And these days I'm not worried about communists I'm actually worried about the social-democrats. They present themselves as a ''soft'' class-war alternative to the public thus they are more dangerous

TL;DR: both want the same goal. The social-democrats simply hide their intentions better.

>You just need to create a fake enemy (oh the nazis are coming)
You're projecting. In your comment, you're actually doing exactly what you're accusing them of doing.

I'm not projecting anything. I'm saying what will happen
Social-democracy (as you called in the first place) will lead to a dictatorship more brutal than any caliphate.
If the govt convinces the europeans the nazis are coming they will vote without a doubt for the confiscation of property and putting people in labors camps

If you think that social democrats are the same as communists, you don't understand European politics.
If you seriously believe that 90% of Europeans think that we must eliminate private property and hand it over to the state, and abolish family and inheritance, and kill anyone who refuses...
you do not understand European politics.

You are the one that don't understand european politics.
If you read Karl Marx and follow the modern ''christian-democrats'' you know they have the same goals and they would be willing to accelerate the revolution process

Let's say if tomorrow they start spreading the idea they have to confiscate property in order to maintain their welfare utopia they will without any doubt applaud and laugh when those who refused are killed.
>abolish family and inheritance
They want this, in fact even in the soviet union there were less people wanting this than in modern europe.
I'm not trying to convince you because you clearly have emotional attach to the socialist ideology. It's impossible to talk reason with someone who is emotionally involved with something

In Greece this new PM confiscated the Orthodox Church buildings and he is using as a refugee camp. It's on his official program.

>This is how 90% of europeans think
ok user

I'm not a socialist. I'm more of a classical liberal. I'm just trying to disabuse you of your misunderstanding of European politics.
Let's start with this statement:
>In order to achieve a stateless society we must eliminate private property and hand it over to the state, and of course abolish family and inheritance ... ok but there will people who will refuse to give their property ... Then you just kill them. We the enlighten people know what is better for them ... This is how 90% of europeans think.
Ok, now... do you seriously stand by the "90%" claim? Or is that hyperbole? If hyperbole, then what do you think is the actual percentage?
My guess would be ~5%.
Also, how exactly do you think hardcore communists would be able to seize power given how many liberals and right-wingers there are in Europe?

This fucking guy

You don't follow european politics. You don't even know about the PM greek official program about confiscating property
You don't know this was applauded by every socialist party in europe. Let's not pretend they don't want this. yes they want, and they will do it.

They are putting people in prison in germany and sweden for facebook comments against refugees. In a few years the idea of executing them isn't hard to imagine. In a few years executing people for their opinions will be the standard. And the social-democrats will lead this process

You didn't answer my question. Do you stand by your 90% claim, or do you want to revise it?

I stand 90% of people in europe (western europe) would advocate for totalitarian measures such as killing others for opinions and/or refusing to give up their private property

You are more interested in "BTFO" me than in any search for the truth
So if you want to masturbate in happiness about "BTFOING" someone on the internet, I can already say you "BTFO" me so you can sleep in comfort
>right-wingers there are in Europe
you are delusional

Your claims BTFO themselves. If 90% of Europeans were as you claim they are, Europe would be a totalitarian communist state. But Europe isn't a totalitarian communist state. It is an economic-political union of capitalist states with strong social safety nets and liberal politics.

>Europe would be a totalitarian communist state
It's marching towards it, that's why I said the muslims conquering europe would offer a lighter totalitarian state, a state which would preserve some kind of human dignity.

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user are you well

>It's marching towards it
Ah, so then you're going to revise your "90%" claim? Cause obviously, if 90% were hardcore communists now, Europe would be a totalitarian communist state now. Why wouldn't it be?

>However it doesn't mean the social democrats won't support a sudden change very fast when they get the opportunity
History has shown otherwise dearly. Also nationalization is not owning the means of production

>posting a dailymail link out of nowhere
Wtf?

>Why wouldn't it be?
Simply because it's not interesting to the goverment at this moment. The most important thing of any revolution is to convince its citizens and that they share the same goal. This was done
We are waiting for the totalitarian communist state to take place, it will happen, maybe in the in the next 50 years

What power does the ''liberals'' (neocons, center-right, etc) hold in europe?
Zero, zilch, zip, nada, nothing.

>posting a dailymail link out of nowhere
>There is no link between abolition of family and the push for necrophilia, bestiality and pedophilia legalization
Of course..

>What power does the ''liberals'' (neocons, center-right, etc) hold in europe?
>Zero, zilch, zip, nada, nothing.
I thought you said you followed European politics.

Do you even understand what "liberal" means in a European context?

What power do they have? economic power?
Economic power means nothing you dummy. If it did the industrialists in germany would have killed Hitler right in 1933.
Liberal in economics, marxists in culture

There isn't. And if there is you sure as well didn't state it clearly in your post making it utterly incoherent, just like your worldview

>Simply because it's not interesting to the goverment at this moment. The most important thing of any revolution is to convince its citizens and that they share the same goal. This was done
>We are waiting for the totalitarian communist state to take place, it will happen, maybe in the in the next 50 years
Deep in the secret communist bunker:
"Comrade, 90% of the people support totalitarian communism!"
"Let's wait 50 years to impose it, for no reason..."
"Why?"
"It's not interesting to do it now, LOL"

>A marriage between a dog and a man is family
>A sex relation between a corpse and a man can be considered as human relationship
>sex between a boy and an adult is family
The abolition of the family explained in simpler terms

>We are waiting for the totalitarian communist state to take place, it will happen, maybe in the in the next 50 years
in 50 years people that are born tomorrow will be old

how exactly are you envisioning this revolution by a 90% majority happening

Economic power, electoral power, offices that they hold, etc...

>"It's not interesting to do it now, LOL"
And why wouldn't wait a few more years if people are getting radicalized faster and faster and accepting the idea of submission like in no other period of history?
You don't realize but you proved my point

"Comrade, 90% are already on our side!"
"No, no, you see, we must wait. If we wait another few decades, we'll get another 2-3%!"

>electoral power
Means nothing.
>offices that they hold
nothing as I said. Hitler made all of them work for him, the industrialists, the social-democrats, even the hard leftists were in the SA for quite some time.
Political/military power is not the same as economical power.

They aren't afraid of inside reaction but outside reaction instead
I mean, you are still proving my point and not refuting my argument.

>This is how 90% of europeans think
You're a moron.

That's a good boy.

So your theory is that 90% of Europeans are secretly hardcore communists, but the vast majority of them tactically vote for non-communists in order to fool outsiders...
Hmm

oh shit, he's onto us!

> but the vast majority of them tactically vote for non-communists
That's where you don't understand political parties and specially european politics. Social democrats and christian-democrats share the same goal as I stated a long earlier.

The abolition of the family was voted in 2017 in Germany
In Sweden around 2003
In France in 2013

I'd say they will wait 15~50 years before the real end goal is showed to the public

Besides that will depend of the international scene.
Either islamic caliphate happens before USSR 2 or we will have actually USSR 2 sooner than you think.

SHUT IT DOWN

marxism is cancer
it's a fraud, utopian garbage used by unscrupulous people to dupe others into handing over their freedom and empowering liars

>The abolition of the family was voted in 2017 in Germany ... In Sweden around 2003 ... In France in 2013
What in the ever-loving fuck are you talking about?

kek

>The abolition of the family
Look, I admit I haven't been outside of my basement too much lately, but I'm pretty sure I would have noticed that reform passing given that my parents would have stopped feeding me.

>Claims to know about politics
>doesn't know about basic events happened in the recent years in europe
See?

Either explain what you're talking about when you claim that the abolition of the family was voted in, or kindly stop wasting (more of) my time.

Mein friend, search for the dates which same sex marriages was voted.
You'll find a match
If anything can be a family (two dogs and 1 man, 1 man and 5 men) than there is no family and no reason for inheritance to exist.
Also no reason for family rights to be in the Civil code. That's exactly why the Civil code is going to an extensive review process which will be passed in the next few years. I could give you links if you are interessted

The only thing I find more disgusting than commies are le 52% ameriblubber neocons.

you realize you aren't actually explaining or linking anything. I'm sure this isn't deliberate.

>you realize you aren't actually explaining or linking anything
What you don't understand about the abolition of the family = same-sex marriage legalized?
Sex between humans and animals are being legalized in germany(despite the effort made by people behind the new animal welfare law)

wut
You do realize that even before gay marriage, you could choose to pass on your property to any random person, right? Gay marriage doesn't suddenly give people some new power, that they didn't have before, to pass on their property to people who are not descended from them.

>you could choose to pass on your property to any random person, right
You still can under the new law. The legislation to end inheritance is in working though, either to heavy tax or through simply abolition once they realize it makes no sense to keep inheritance if there are no families

Also, you don't seem to realize that the concept of some people being biological children of other people will exist even if dogs and humans are getting married, etc (which isn't going to happen, but let's pretend).

I am pleased to announce to all our European allies that the 60 million crypto-trotskyist accelerationists in France have collectively designated Comrade Macron as Secretary-General of the Party, Chairman of the Revolutionary Committee and Great Helmsman of the Post-Marxist Socialist Deep State.
He will of course continue to pass liberal legislation and relax business laws in order to lure in more foreign capital, just as we convened, before the sudden and irresistible wave of nationalization that will collectivize the economy and abolish private property that is schedule to occur according to our Ten Years Plan.

Full communism soon, comrades!

Same sex marriage does not mean that normal marriage is prohibited. Abolition of the family means that kids are raised by the state afaik

>once they realize it makes no sense to keep inheritance if there are no families
But it does make sense to keep inheritance even if there are no families

This whole thread

>some people being biological children of other people will exist
That's the whole point. Choosing genders, names, sex and orientation destroyed the idea of biology in the Civil code.

>2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
>3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

This is happening
If there are no private property, why?

>legalizing same sex marriages is the same as abilitioning the family unit which makes nationalization a lot easier

Be quiet comrade else you go to the gulag

Can you please explain to me how 90% of Europe are hardcore anti-family communists according to you, when Eastern Europe alone has enough social conservatives to defeat any attempt to impose Godless Gommunism on the entire EU without causing a civil war?

One day or the other the welfare state will abolish family. It's the logical consequence of socialism/welfare state
Heading towards a stateless society will lead to a society where there is no inheritance.
I'm not sure why people have a hard time seeing this. Even Karl Marx knew that property is strictly related to the family that's why he and Engels proposed to abolish the family DURING the transition from capitalism to communism

You can hate Spengler but he was right about this point. The movement moves with its own nature and reasons(which are outside of the public), a movement of which the politicians and militants have no idea of the consequences

>an anglo take on social democracy

Please, Eastern Europeans are in the same camp, they're just playing the backward religious conservatives while Western Europeans are playing the tolerant liberal progressives, the dissolution of the Soviet Union was just another stratagem to lull our enemies into a false sense of security. We are all united in our desire to bring about communism by any means necessary.
I can't wait to see the look on their faces when every Pole and Russian spontaneously starts singing the Internationale!

The rabbi catches an old Jewish man reading the Nazi newspaper and demands to know how he could look at such garbage. The man answers “When I read our Jewish newpapers, the news is so depressing – oppression, death, genocide! But here, everything is great! We control the banks, we control the media. Why, just yesterday they said we had a plan to kick the Gentiles out of Germany entirely!”

Why aFucking kek

>The USSR anthem
or the Salah: وَأَقِيمُوا۟ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتُوا۟ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ وَٱرْكَعُوا۟ مَعَ ٱلرَّٰكِعِينَ
At this moment I don't know what will happen first, but if you want to live, chose a caliphate. If you are lucky and you think your son/daughter can work for the state, hope for the USSR 2.
The USSR 2 will be more brutal though

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Now this is 14235853D blackjack

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They're forming soviets! They DO form soviets!

The strangest thing about this outburst is, it seems like the author has somehow BLOCKED OUT that the US legalized gay marriage 2 years ago too. Otherwise he would have surely explained whether this means 90% of Americans are communists patiently waiting for the abolition of private property like in Europe.

Fugg, I guess the whole world is actually 90% communist. We're just delaying the revolution because we don't want to alarm the capitalist space aliens...

It's 100% actually, but as a safety measure the remaining 10% are Manchurian candidates who underwent doublethink conditioning so they can fully pretend to be capitalists without remembering they are communist agents.
In case the space aliens catch on to our plans and purge the 90%, the other 10% will survive to lay the foundations of the next revolution as soon as the capitalist aliens go home.

If you don't remember being a crypto-communist, you're in that category.

>executing peoplen for ideas in 21st century western Europe isn't hard to imagine

How many layers of irony are you on at the moment?

>head of the party says it's idiotic in the same article headline

>i have two dads
THIS IS NOT OKAY
>i like to dig up the corpses of the fallen and enjaculate into their cold dead flesh
THIS IS EQUALLY NOT OKAY

Nice history thread

Damn! That explains why I support capitalism, but I occasionally have these disturbing dreams at night full of red flags.
At last... it is revealed to me...

Open a dictionary, abolition means the complete removal of something.