How did Christians go from killing homosexuals to being their best friends?

it's called cucking

>muh Romans

Nothing Jesus ever spoke from his lips.

It was a given in Jesus' time. He had no reason to preach against it because no one was practicing it.

The liberals (protestants) first secured a good relationship with them longago and after Vatican II the Catholic Church imitated the protestants
easy answer

TIL Paul is God.

No.

catholicdigest.com/news/from-the-vatican/pope-says-traditional-views-marriage-gender-cast-stone/

>the new testament doesnt count if its not the red letters

lol

Jesus talked about pretty much every other sin

Which other international organization opposes gay "marriage"?

The same left-wing cosmopolitanism that's been growing ever since the industrial revolution, urbanizing the population, has infected the people who become priests or pastors or whatever.

Where/when was homosexuality or sodomy punishable by death in the Christian world? I'm sure plenty of place but I don't know since it's not a terribly important part of history.

In your opinion Paul is not an authority in Christian teaching?

orthodox church

They didn't, the people who claim that homosexuality isn't a sin aren't really Christian.

>Nothing Jesus ever spoke from his lips.
When will we ban trolls and shitposters like this?
“Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”

Fedora atheists should go back to /r/atheism and start their liberal revolutions there

The gospels are obviously allegorical and not word-for-word what Jesus said.

John is a theology lesson
Mark is a retelling of Isiaiah
Matthew is painting Jesus as Moses
Luke is a story in the Greek classical Homeric tradition

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>The gospels are obviously allegorical
lol

why are christians so autistic about gay people? why do they feel the need to infringe on their basic rights as citizens at every turn? because of some fairy tales? religion is a fucking disease desu.

Not a word about homosexuality and entirely about marriage and divorce.

>go back to redshit

Is not an argument. Stay triggered.

Because they realised it was worth it

>allegorical
I imagine what would Paul say about pharisaism being fashionable on the internet even to the point of becoming the person's only identity

gay people are literally a menace to society

if they actually "kept quiet in the privacy of their own bedroom" nobody would care but instead they parade around their faggotry and do things like pic related

You mean your epic religion getting schismed into a million tiny little pieces because, guess what, nobody can agree about your indivisible omnipotent god? It's all subjective in the end?

Pity.

There's literally no reason to allow gay marriage except "muh feels" and it's not discrimination to be against gay marriage, nor does it infringe on anyone's rights.

>this picture

>I lost my ability to rely on christological arguments and now I will just /pol/ spam because my feelings are hurt

youtube.com/watch?v=fOCD_T9Qqpc

There's no reason to bar gay marriage except 'muh feels'. You're just a typical fake libertarian. Libertarian up to the point where you get offended on an internet forum.

>rebbit losing control

I'm not a libertarian, nor have I ever claimed to be one. Try again, moron.

nice trips

>nor have I ever claimed to be one

Until about 2008, of course!

Stay classy.

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Oh, and as for barring gay marriage, the primary purpose of marriage is ensuring that children have a good environment to grow up. Gay couples do not offer a good environment for children, therefore encouraging gay couples to stay together has no purpose.

Nope, you're just retarded.

Legalization of gay marriage leads to government forcing churches to accept gays
Homosexuality is a very simple and obvious thing that goes against the teachings and secular society is pushing it as hard as it can.
Freedom of religion is a lie.

>inb4 nothing wrong with being gay
Argue with the church not me
>inb4 christians do other stuff thats sinful
duh

The church doesn't have to accept gay marriage. It's a civil declaration.

If the primary purpose of marriage is to have children, are you also in favor of barring marriage for infertile couples?

back to /pol/ with ye

>Gay couples do not offer a good environment for children,
prove it

Yes.

>the primary purpose of marriage is ensuring that children have a good environment to grow up.

If this were the case divorces would be illegal because single moms

>hey if I find an exception to the rule that means I win

oh I guess trannies are women now because infertile women exist...damn

>muh infertile couples
cmon man

way to strawman him holy fuck

Who thinks single mothers are OK, other than extreme liberals?

his quality debate standards

see

Just refuting your argument that marriage is to ensure children have a good home. If this were the case the courts would not give every divorced kid to the mom.

is this your best response to that lol

Stormniggers see everyone incapable of breeding as subhuman. They just don't want to drive away the infertile vote in case it happens to run right.

Marriage is created to give kids a good environment. What the courts do is irrelevant to this, given that they also allow gay "marriage".

Infertile couples can still adopt.

Well, you can't really force two people who hate each other to live together, and divorce is just a way of formalizing the separation which is happening anyway, so it's a necessary evil. I am opposed to giving the woman the sole custody of the children barring exceptional circumstances, though.

muh infertile couples isnt an argument

its like somebody saying the sky is going to be blue tomorrow and then you say "no dude what if theres a meteor and it turns the sky red"

when people talk about things they are talking about 99.999% of the time, they dont care about what autistic what-ifs

>The law only counts when I say it counts

Nope, it counts for the whole process too. You don't get to draw a line in the sand.

>Well, you can't really force two people who hate each other to live together

We were perfectly capable of as a society a hundred years ago. Don't you worship those times?

Women almost always get sole custody. You're so full of shit I can smell it through TCP/IP.

It's a dishonest argument. If you can't tell how theres no reason to spell it out.

saying divorce is bad too is bullshit man. Try showing that gays arent worse at raising kids instead of moving the goal posts so hard. Most people against homosexuality aren't in favor of divorce.

Something like 10% of all women are infertile you retard, it's not an irrelevant pissant number.

shitty example
it's like someone saying:
"we need to ban chocolate because it has too much sugar!"
"well what about taffy, that has sugar too..."
"dude quit with ur autistic what-ifs we're talking about chocolate here tard."

>against gay
>in favor of divorce

The presence of divorce in society is way more destructive than homosexuality you fucker.

>Most people against homosexuality aren't in favor of divorce.

They typically are, I've found. They seem to accept women getting everything they want but as soon as any MEN desire any rights, it's all to the garbage.

using stormtard's own logic against them isn't a "dishonest argument", ignoring exceptions to your reasoning because "muh gay society degradation" is though.

saying that the purpose of marriage is to have children and then bringing up infertile couples is retarded

that isnt to say infertile couples cant have a good marriage but THE PURPOSE of marriage is to have children. just because the women and/or man is defective doesn't change the rule.

>We were perfectly capable of as a society a hundred years ago. Don't you worship those times?
Nope.
>Women almost always get sole custody. You're so full of shit I can smell it through TCP/IP.
Yes, that's unfortunately the case, and I think it should be changed.

I disagree. Maybe there should be additional barriers before you can get divorced(or the marriage annulled, whatever), but I think there are cases where divorce is the best solution for everyone involved.

>Yes. About 10 percent of women (6.1 million) in the United States ages 15-44 have difficulty getting pregnant or staying pregnant, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Interesting that this goes all the way to 44 years old. This doesn't say the can't 100% get pregnant just that they have trouble. The church would probably just tell them to pray and keep trying not something homosexuals could do.

These redditors will never listen. If you told them the purpose of a car is to drive from point A to point B they would say "well what if you have a flat tire" or "what if the engine explodes"

>select all cars captcha

>it's retarded because I said so

Truly, a stunning argument.

>literally cannot make an argument in good faith
this is why nobody likes liberals

more:

Many women are waiting until their 30s and 40s to have children. In fact, about 20 percent of women in the United States now have their first child after age 35. So age is a growing cause of fertility problems. About one-third of couples in which the woman is over 35 have fertility problems.

Aging decreases a woman's chances of having a baby in the following ways:

Her ovaries become less able to release eggs
She has a smaller number of eggs left
Her eggs are not as healthy
She is more likely to have health conditions that can cause fertility problems
She is more likely to have a miscarriage

Most experts suggest at least one year. Women 35 or older should see their doctors after six months of trying. A woman's chances of having a baby decrease rapidly every year after the age of 30.

Some health problems also increase the risk of infertility. So, women should talk to their doctors if they have:

Irregular periods or no menstrual periods
Very painful periods
Endometriosis
Pelvic inflammatory disease
More than one miscarriage
It is a good idea for any woman to talk to a doctor before trying to get pregnant. Doctors can help you get your body ready for a healthy baby. They can also answer questions on fertility and give tips on conceiving.

>good faith
>on a shitty Veeky Forums board calling for gays to get shipped to le camps praise pence

top lol

>trying to argue with people who cannot accept anything as true

This is why Veeky Forums is the master race board. At least you can't debate math

>implying I ever said gays should be killed or put in camps

Veeky Forums is filled with you triggered stormniggers attempting to argue racialist shit and anti-AGW though.

How did they? Well, it took a long time but most recently, when whichever genius decided to say that being gay is like being born without arms.

Now we have everyone running around claiming that they were born certain ways and therefore no critique or comments can be made.

>implying you don't believe it anyway

Be honest user. It's okay. Nobody will judge.

>anti-AGW
Whats this new buzzword?

Spotted the first triggered stormnigger

I don't. All I ever said was that the purpose of marriage is to have children.

I know older unmarried couples who never had children and they all regret it. My aunt was infertile, she never had children, she could have taken medicine for it to cure her infertility, but she never did because she's an idiot. And now that's shes too old to take the medicine she's always moaning about how she never had kids.

That's a very specific term not a buzzword dipshit

I don't even know what AGW is but okay.

>I have a bitchy aunt
>so gays shouldn't get married lol

Psychoanalysis of an autist

>I don't even know the basic topic before I comment

Is this how you normally do on Veeky Forums? Are you surprised when people call you an idiot?

Why are you intentionally trying to troll and putting words in my mouth

All I ever said was that the purpose of marriage is to have children, and you keep straw manning things I never said

I think you accidentally clicked on Veeky Forums when you should have clicked on reddit

Stormfag victim complex in action. Calling for people to be stripped of their rights is a DEFENSIVE MECHANISM, GOY. We're just being protected from the mean news articles about lives we never have to witness in day to day life!

>phoneposter filth tells anyone it should go back to redshit

New Testament doesn't talk about it, and Old Testament is tricky. Christians do not want to do 90% of it, but it's the only place that condemns gays.

>putting words in my mouth
>again

So you didn't make this post? You haven't been crusading against "two dads" this whole thread?

Nah, it seems you'd rather just dance any semblance of a point you had to play victim.

>saying that marriage is for children is stormfag

Did I walk into /r/childfree?

>I know all these obscure subreddits
>I am not a redditor myself

Nice try.