Finland lost the winter war

>the finns fucking lost man

Stalin planned to annex the entire country. Instead he only got a small part of it. When you consider the massive disparity in manpower and material between the two sides, the Finns did damn good.

basically
Finland prevented USSR from achieving goal
But had to make concessions to do so

This is inaccurate, Finland approached the soviet union to get a peace treaty, the soviets were fine continuing the war as they had smashed the Finnish defensive line.

Actually Finland had to give up significantly more than the soviet union had initially demand of them in November 1939 just to get a peace treaty.

wait is this related to the What if Operation Unthinkable thread? What is this, are you trying some meme revisionism?

Dude, Finland totally lost both the winter war and the continuation war. It was a costly victory for the soviets, but a victory nonetheless.

they did incredibly well against insanely unfair odds, but that doesn't mean they won

also annexing Finland was never one of the SU's war goals, the hope was that they could be peacefully be bullied into giving up concessions like the baltic states, which could then be used to either stage a coup or bully further concessions from a position of greater strength. There was a general misunderstanding about the situation in Finland by some in the Soviet diplomatic corps. The Russian revolution had spread to Finland in late 1917, and there was a similar civil war like in Russia. Except in Finland the Whites won. The Soviets assumed that they could be greeted as liberators by the former Reds, who would be happy to get revenge for their loss in the civil war. However Finland's economy had done very well in the 1920s, and had weathered the great depression better than just about anyone, also the democratic government set up by the Whites had done a good job of integrating rather than persecuting the Reds, so that fifth column never materialized. Once the Soviets realized this they began to understand that Finland would be easier to manage as a semi-colony than full annexation.

>Stalin planned to annex the entire country

source?

the goal of the Soviets was to push Finland away from Leningrad. they never sought to annex Finland

>source
"How Wars End" by Dan Reiter
"A companion to world war two" by a bunch of people
"Northern European Overture to War, 1939–1941: From Memel to Barbarossa" by Michael Clemesen and Marcus Faulkner

Well thats just not true The soviets sent their peace conditions first, on 29. of january and the finns turned them down, saying that at most they would agree to demilitarisation of the sea.
Also its pretty clear that the russians would have asked for more and more if the finns gave in. In fact they did, in 1941 they demanded the northern part of Finland, which then lead to the continuation war. The soviets made their intentions very clear, and we have countless examples of what happened to countries that didn't fight them.

the finns are my waifus, and I say this as someone who hasn't played a paradox game besides mountainblade

gonna need a page number

124 for how wars end, 210 for a companion, 76 for overture to war

Are you kidding me? The soviet troops were given instruction on how to greet swedish border security. Stalin even assembled the government of the annexed Finland. They even agreed to soviets annexing Finland in the molotov ribbentrop. Are you guys sure youre on the right board?

>In favor of the soviets
>Not a defeat