People meme Codreanu here a lot so I decided to look him up...

>that's the problem with leftists.

Oh look, youre also a binary bird brained retard who thinks theres nazis and then theres communism and that it to politics (even though you know nothing about either)

Just stop with this farce user. NO ONE is impressed with you faggots. youre basically the new anonymous in terms of being tryhard cringy faggots

>Things that never happened

>Rabbi Ezekielberg Shekelblatt writes down a baseless screed that a gorillion Jewish babies were broken at the wheel while being eaten by a bear and an eagle.

>He actually believes it

>He then blames Codreanu somehow even though he wasn't even alive at the time

the "I like him vs he doesn't like him" or "he is enlightened and progressive vs he is conservashit and xenophobic" is historically linked to leftists though
We can talk about right-wing problems, but the obsession with ''you can't criticize my pure ideologist'' not of them.
You believing I ''worship'' Codreanu is a projection of how you see leaders in history
You see leaders through the ''worship vs hate'' lens

No one is impressed by you incoherant ramblings in your pathetic attempt to defend your childish and pathetic admiration for some irrelevant murdering psychopath user. Youre a simpleton who can only understand force which is why Im going to continue to annoy you until you get so angry that you leave.

triggered stormfag detected

You literal nonhuman, how could he have had anything to do with that if it was three years after his death?

Do your own homework, fuck off, and come back when you’re 18 kiddo

That "incident" had 15 deaths officially yet was reported in the US and abroad as 60. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Romanians are a nice enough people that for some reason have a penchant for terrible rulers.

He didn't do this personally, it was the Iron Guard though.

There was a thread about this a while ago. It led to stormfags crying how it didn't happen blah blah blah until some user posted an in depth documents describing it from multiple witnesses. Then the stormfags said "oh who cares have you read what the jewish bolsheviks did to russians blah blah blah." They taint every thread remotely related to Jews.

How bad was Ceausescu?

I grew up in America thinking of him as pure evil but it seems like most Romanians want communism back

washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/30/struggling-romanians-yearn-for-communism/

economist.com/news/europe/21730167-though-few-really-want-dictators-back-many-eastern-europeans-feel-nostalgia-communist

vice.com/en_dk/article/kw9qae/question-of-the-day-would-you-vote-for-ceausescu

He was the public face of the soviet system, with its guaranteed income and social security net and all that jazz that makes up soviet nostalgia. Anyone would have done, insofar as the main function of a head of state in one of the satellites was to be a very eager yes man. But he, no one else, was their yes man.

idk what you're talking about cause that guy codreanu died in 1938 it seems

nice hair tho

Bullshit. Only retards, apparatniks and older people(who all need to be euthanised btw) want him back.

legitimately nice hair, that's simply not up for dispute.

Kek

>Oh yeah only 15 jews were found in this human slaughterhouse.

That makes it all better then right?

>yeah guys, lets kill all old people
Rofl

Codreanu was executed prior to the Second World War though. Most of the shit Iron Guard pulled was under the direction of Horia Sima.

Not to mention Romanian Jewry (within their 1940 borders) survived the Holocaust largely intact thanks to Antonescu's political maneuvering/slaughtering Jews outside of his borders to please Hitler.

BS. Only retards think he was good. And yes, there are many.

Romania was the second biggest economy in Europe after Germany, before WW2. We had oil, invented asphalt (the first highway paved with bitumen was here), almost had the first flight with Traian Vuia, few years before Wright brothers. George Enesco, Gogu Constantinescu with Theory of Sonics. Lots of technical schools, stock market, arts, philosophy (Eliade, Ionesco etc) you name it. Bucharest was called "Little Paris" for a reason.

But then the communists came and all the low lifes illiterates occupied the positions in power, killed the elite, took their houses (they live there even today), turned the society upside down. All you see in Romania built in the 60s was done by a generation educated in capitalism. But now that generation is gone. All the key positions were taken by propagandists, and the former nomenklatura (they killed Ceausescu to have more power for themselves). But it's the same system, posing itself as "free market", democracy, whatever you want to call it, the same old monolithic party is the same.

The only difference is that now you are free to leave the country. No wonder 20% of the population simply left the country. It's the biggest mass exodus in a country that is not in war. The old communists simply destroyed everything, despite having massive resources, 2 or 3 exceptionally educated generations, engineers and so on.

yes

next question

In some respects Romania even surpassed Germany (not to mention Britain and France) during the interwar period. Infrastructure, industry, culture were ahead of US in certain respects at that point. Living standards were much better than in Bulgaria and Serbia.

> Romania was the second biggest economy in Europe after Germany
Really? Do you have any sources on this? I know that Romania was prosperous thanks to the oil, but I've never heard about them having stronger economy than UK or France.

Read his book.

It's nonsense.

The 1931 depression was not so bad here. Romania exported massive amounts of grains to UK and Germany. Lots of natural resources as well. It's not about the size of the market, it's about how resilient it was during crisis (think Swiss Franc now). The Romanian Leu was considered (somehow) a safe heaven, better than the French one, back then, and the fact that the banking system was somehow incipient, pegged to gold, and natural resources, actually dampened the shock.

Again, when looking at some company, it's about the growth rate, and the trend, how well it can withstand when everyone is in panic. This is not necessary about size.

The elites were not very bright, true, the proximity to Ottomans and Russia was still present, but the potential was there. Without wars all the time and with some good leaders, today things would have been be very different.

The key thing in measuring the economy is efficiency. Energy in - energy out, and the cost of energy. With massive oil deposits (bigger than Norway), and with cheap energy from hydro (Carpathians), the size of the economy is irrelevant, the growth rate is much more important, as in 10 years of constant growth it could surpass everything.

translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.bnr.ro/Consideratii-privind-Marea-Criza-Economica-din-1929-–-1933-8253.aspx&edit-text=

Codreanu was dead for 3 years when the Legionary Revolt happened you lying Jew

fuck off kike, codreanu is /ourguy/
youtube.com/watch?v=wqBMM2v31iI

Yeah goy, is Codreanu's fault what happened 3 years after he died!

>rightist

So what was his problem?

He was trying really hard to be codreanu but failed

>The key thing in measuring the economy is efficiency. Energy in - energy out, and the cost of energy. With massive oil deposits (bigger than Norway), and with cheap energy from hydro (Carpathians), the size of the economy is irrelevant, the growth rate is much more important, as in 10 years of constant growth it could surpass everything.
You know which other country during the interwar had massive oil reserves and massive growth even during the great depression? The USSR. It was growing faster than Romania, too.

>everyone I don't like is a Jew

>oy vey they're literally eating us
>reddit and associated crowd will believe this shit

The Chad Sima vs The Virgin Jews

The claim that Iron Guard was skinning five year old Jewish girls is very obviously bullshit regardless of what you think about them.

OY VEY

By the time that happened Codreanu was already dead you dumb cunt

Well, Pentru Legionarii doesn't make him very sympathethic to me, what with all the antisemitism and attempts of murder. I've been interested in the organization of legionary "nests", but apparrently I'm not going to find a book on the Guard's organization in a language I can understand anytime soon.

archive.org/details/TheNestLeadersManual_148

>The USSR. It was growing faster than Romania, too.

Nope, it was not growing faster, but don't forget the distances and efficiency. And the fact they could produce grains only in small areas in the southern regions, or better said, Ukraine (Donbas and Crimea were annexed for this region). The big Ukrainian famine from 1931 when people were eating grass and trees and each other, because Stalin robbed them of all the food they had, should be a clear warning sign of their strength. The soviets had massive programs in the 60s to drain the swamps in Kazakhstan, in order to have some food on the table. They constantly demanded all the grain produced in the former satellites, and if you remember, even Reagan imposed sanctions, except the loans and exports to grain (because the goal was not to starve and kill them). In 1998, US helped Russia with food and meat from the military strategic reserves. This is a chronic problem, and in an primitive / agrarian society, this could become critical. Russia without oil is toast.

Wait, how didn't I find this in English when I searched?

Anyway, thanks a lot, user.

Codreanu and the Iron Guard were fascist but they were mystical. They share the name with Archangel Michael and they had this sacrificial vibe around them. They embraced death, so yeah it could have something in common with ISIS and their martyr myth

To make some omelettes, you've got to skin a heeb

The indescribable savagery of national socialists (in Romania, or Ukraine, or Russia - they were the same) could be explained by the constant struggle for food and resources. They blamed the Jews because Jews were build grains, they did not had the right to own property anywhere, so they were not landlords, but merchants. So when the grain prices took a hit, like in 1907 when US entered the market and started massive exports with big transatlantic ships and inland canals for cargo, because they had tractors and the big farms in the central US (again, think about efficiency - it was cheaper to buy grains from US even delivered across the ocean than buying it from the European or Eastern farmer using his cow for the plowing), the market price was so low that no one wanted to buy and many farmers blamed the Jews for bankrupting them.

This is how antisemitism started here, in this region. The Pogrom from Cernauti, Chisinev, Iasi, all of them started because of famine, and the Jews (the intermediaries) were blamed as a cause. This is how Codreanu and the likes gained popularity with their message. It was not something local, at the beginning of the century the same antisemitic sentiment was present in all agrarian societies, where famine and working 8 hours a day to have food was a constant struggle every day.

Hitler was after the Baragan as well (big plain in Romania - oil fields and the "granary of Europe"). The Legionaries were financed by Berlin just as they did with Lenin, in 1917. In fact, during WWI, that interests was clear - in the Treaty of Bucharest, Romania had to lease its oil wells to Germany for 90 years. The grain production and exports were somehow the same.

>Nope, it was not growing faster, but don't forget the distances and efficiency
That's not what all the data says.

>The big Ukrainian famine from 1931 when people were eating grass and trees and each other, because Stalin robbed them of all the food they had, should be a clear warning sign of their strength
It's well known that it happened because the Kulaks resisted collectivization and burned their crops. Besides, food is far from being the only measure of an economy. Most of the development in the USSR came from heavy industry and infrastructure. The fact that they could produce almost as much military materials of all kind as the USA during ww2, while previously Russia couldn't even give rifles to all their soldiers in ww1, is a proof that they grew tremendously.

>The soviets had massive programs in the 60s to drain the swamps in Kazakhstan, in order to have some food on the table. They constantly demanded all the grain produced in the former satellites, and if you remember, even Reagan imposed sanctions, except the loans and exports to grain (because the goal was not to starve and kill them). In 1998, US helped Russia with food and meat from the military strategic reserves. This is a chronic problem, and in an primitive / agrarian society, this could become critical. Russia without oil is toast.
Irrelevant because it's outside the scope of what we're discussing.

Oh gee the exact sam thread we had a week a ago

The key thing is that he said in some respects at 1938 it’s gdp per capita was lower than most European countries let alone the major ones, likewise it was still predominately agrarian and lacked the same railway density of Western Europe. The only way you could argue second biggest in Europe is you limit your measurement to domestic oils supplies

>food is far from being the only measure of an economy.

It's extremely relevant, as Romania and Russia and Ukraine were rural and agrarian societies, with 90% of the population working all day long in the fields. Think UK before James Watt and steam machines and you will understand why this is critical. When 90% of the population works in agriculture, the economy is the agriculture, with all the ups and downs. You also ignore winter, and why this activity is profitable only in certain regions, in south.

During the Cold War, most of the satellite countries had to do "patriotic work" in Kazakhstan (think slavery, working for nothing). To drain the swamps, make irrigation canals and so on. This subject is critical to Russia and the region, as it was back then, in 1907-1923, when Hitler and the antisemitic sentiment was in full swing.

Again, this explains the despicable things people are capable in this region. Famine and constant struggle to survive. This is why they ALWAYS wanted to invade others, migrate in other regions, or as Catherine of Russia said: "I have no way to defend my borders but to extend them".

Their economy depended on agriculture just as it depends now 100% on oil and gas.

>WW2 actually happened
>it wasn't just cooked up as a convenient excuse to explain away Germany's inferiority to the rest of the world by an international cabal of fascists

/pol/tards are so gullible

>you could argue second biggest in Europe if you limit your measurement to domestic oils supplies

The key is energy. How much GJoules per person a country could export, produce, consume and at what price. Norway is now the richest country in Europe (per capita) for a reason - it has 98% or energy produced in hydro plants (fjiords). Their biggest investment fund is funded from oil revenues. Switzerland is somehow the same, and the massive reservoirs and glaciers helped the economy a lot. Switzerland will be the "storage pumping station" of Europe, all the interconnection high voltage lines meet there, it will be the biggest market for load balancing across Europe.

Now think of Romania, the biggest oil exporter in Europe, since 1844 and the first wells. The first country in the world to have statistics for oil production, faculties, and a university exactly for this. As I said, the composition for bitumen (the common asphalt, used for roads) was invented here, by a Gogu Constantinescu, a Romanian engineer. Hitler used the oil resources to fuel almost the entire war. That's why the Ploiesti refineries were critical to them (the only place bombed by US - and imagine the distance and effort they had to travel to do that).

Romania in Europe was like Texas in US, during the oil boom. That is a proper analogy.

Pretty brutal. No wonder Ceacescu liked this guy so much.

The US diplomat in Romania was a rabbi?

>Ceauscescu
>Soviet yes man
Are you joking? His whole ideology was called "National Communism" and he distanced himself from the Soviets.

my idol yo

why

here's a much better translation than that machine translation shit on archive

incorectpolitic.ro/2017/09/12/nest-leaders-manual-accurate-english-translation/

cheers bro

I don't know about /pol/ personally, but I've known a couple of nazis personally before, one IRL and one online. The first one was a guy who ironically looked the most Jewish in the town, but would carry nazi medals, draw swatiskas in the class, and rant about religion. He told stories about he liked to torture cats so he wasn't mentally well/an edgelord.

I knew a spic online who used to go on to /pol/ but evolved into a westboro type of Christian, he's also into inflicting pain.

A lot of these people aren't very good, look at some of their figureheads like Varg, they're all crazy and narcissistic

This happened after his death you fucking retards, I didn't know Veeky Forums was this illiterate. Read "To My Legionaries" and you will only just begin to understand what a hero this man is. You bitch and moan about the deaths of a few Jews but forget what the Jews did to all of Eastern Europe via the introduction of Communism which killed countless Romanians. Codreanu died at the merciless hand of his despotic government that killed him in the dead of night as spineless cowards. His Legionaries took over the party and his successors did not do the job the way he would have. He absolutely wanted to expel the Jews, Romania for Romanians, but it would not have been his wish to be a barbarian about it. His life was spend exposing their hand in subverting the Romanian way of life, and he could nearly be a Saint in Romania if not for the commie government.

>muh ebin capitalisms
>muh ebil mafia is actually ex-communist

God Eastern Euro anti-communist "right-wing" (actually Soros-paid) "democrats" are so fucking predictable.

communism was a German invention with Greek roots (from Plato), not a Jewish invention

Weren’t Marx and Trotsky both Jewish? And those guys leading that Bavarian socialist revolt?

You must have a pretty high persecution complex if you think poor farmers are trying to subvert the ebin European (lol) race, :^) The same race that was killing each other for a thousand years before America put you on a leash

Don't bother. Some people in the Eastern Bloc have been brainwashed to the core starting from their childhood to love America and the EU and hate anything to do with Russia.

It was formulated/synthesized into a consistent ideology by the German-Jew Karl Marx and German Friedrich Engels. It was spread in Eastern Europe through Bolshevik (a Jewish dominated Russian political party) financing and propaganda. It is as much of a Jewish invention as the bagel-- so what if they didn't invent dough?

Marx was only half Jewish ethnically. He was not Jewish religiously at all, and as a matter of fact he was pretty anti-semetic. Fredrich Engels played an equal formation of communist ideology, so all in al it's a majority German ideology. The basic ideals behind communism have existed in some form because iirc, Plato tried out a similar society thousands of years before and it failed.

Any Jewish politician influence by the time Stalin took over was removed, the USSR was almost as anti-semetic was the nazi regime was. Trotsky "vanished" around the time Stalin took over and never came back!

whoops, Trotsky died in mexico, but he was still in exile.

I'm American dipshit. I'm not Romanian dispora either, but I am Eastern Orthodox so I do sympathize (converted, I'm as Anglo as they come tho). The Jews in the field obviously aren't the ones Codreanu was fighting, it was the ones in academia, finance, and trade.

So typical Nazi conspiracy? Just another loser who couldn't compete with the Jews without killing or deporting them.

I am aware of that, there certainly were factions, but look at the failed revolution in Weinmar Germany by the communists (overwhelmingly Jewish) and how Jewish dominated the Bolshevik party was. Stalin was a brutal despot who didn't purge the Jewish control because he was anti-Semitic, he had many Jewish allies, he did it because he saw their ranks as a threat. Whether or not Marx was a committed Jew is aside the point, atheist Jews contribute just as much damage, its because Jews rally behind their own blood--
they believe they are the chosen ones.

>m American dipshit. I'm not Romanian dispora either
Oh, so just the typical Boomerwashed American fag, good to see actual Romanians are still doing fine. Pic related is you.

So you call yourself Orthodox but consider the regime that wanted to replace Abrhamaic religion with paganism and wanted to starve 80 million people in Eastern Europe Native American-style to make way for German expansionism an ally over peasant Jewish farmers? (who might only even be Jewish ethnically at that?)

>overwhelmingly Jewish
No, few Jewish leader doesn't mean that people who fought for them were Jewish. Most communists were of course Germans.

Not a Nazi, Hitler was a meth'd out pagan faggot by the end of his reign (maybe he was OK in the beginning). You'd have to be historically illiterate to not realize how Jews work against the interests of native peoples. Just like the Spartans they regard themselves as a outside non-native force wherever they are. They have the same unceasing belief that if they're not in control they will be vanquished. Look at the federal reserve board and the over-representation of Jews in Law and finance, they're not just smarter people, they're nepotistic. Why should we want an ethnocentric diaspora anywhere near the thrones of our nations? They will put their collective interests before their host's.

Stalin was pretty anti-semetic, Lenin tried to solve the JQ earlier by creating the Jewish autonomous oblast in a place nobody cared about, but a few years later. Stalin put that region under such immense pressure to assimilate to the point that when Israel rolled around, the actual Jewish population of that region is now at about 0.2 percent even though it's supposed to be an official territory. I haven't read up on how Jewish leaders in the USSR interacted with Stalin but I know there wasn't much of a difference between the early years of the Nazi regime and the USSR throughout its history

Glad to see /pol/ memes made their way into Veeky Forums little late to the joke I see, we're already using "le 0% face".

(((you)))

Well read on your Jewish propaganda I see, did you read that under the light of your Jewish lampshade the Nazis made. Interestingly enough, there were factions in Nazi-Germany at the time that we for and against Codreanu. It was the administrative government that wasn't pro-Legionnaire, but the Wehrmacht and SS were pro-Legionnaire. Make of that what you will, all I can say about Hitler is that I agree with much of his sentiment in "Mein Kampf" but I oppose the direction he led Germany after he declared war on Poland.

so many adjectives
>pathetic
>pathetic
projecting

Of course its not going to be fought by Jews, they hardly made up enough of the population to do that. But by your own admission the leaders were Jewish which is where you will find them in Communism.

>because the Kulaks
dropped

He gets painted as anti-Semitic, but that really isn't the case, he was pro-Zionist and had Jewish advisers. I'm not trying to claim the Jews get the keys to the kingdom anywhere Communism rules, its just a comfort state of affairs for them, because they can get their foot in the door and assert dominance over the native population. There are 3 factions of Jewry that deceptively lead you to believe the Jews oppose everything I say they're for. They use Communism/Bolshevism/Leftism to control and halt advancement in host nations, they support Zionism so they can have a international capital state/Jewish sovereign land, and lastly they support capitalism to financially support these activities.

Lenin was a Jew too. JAO was an idea many Jews supported, but Zionism became more appealing once Israel was recognized by the USSR, UK, and USA. I'd love to move all the Jews to JAO, but there's no stopping them now.

Lenin didn't know he was Jewish until later on in his life and made several anti-semetic comments

So by "biggest economy in Europe" you meant "richest country in Europe per capita" and by that you actually meant "energy production per capita." Okay.

Good god Romanian nationalists are fucking retarded. It's always "the biggest X in Europe" or "the most beautiful X in Europe" or "the only X in Europe" or "the oldest X in Europe" and every time it's absolutely fucking nothing.

It was a bit more complex than this. Liebknecht wasn't a Jew. Eisner wasn't really a communist, he was assassinated before radical leftists took over Bavaria. I can't find anything abut Emil Barth being a Jews, same with Eichhorn.

From the left side - Hugo Preuss and Eugen Schiffer were also Jews.

Making several "anti-Semitic" comments doesn't mean your literally Hitler with regard to the Jews. Everyone's grandma is going to make an "anti-Semitic" remark for damn sake. Just look at Lenin too, there's no doubt he knew he was Jewish as well as all the Bolsheviks. He catered to their interests just like he was supposed to.

Examples of how Lenin catered to Jewish interests?