Why aren't Sweden and Denmark united if everything is so similar?

Why aren't Sweden and Denmark united if everything is so similar?

What in history has caused this divide?

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>denmark-norway conquers sweden
>swedes rise up in rebellion and gain independence
>denmark-norway conquers sweden again
>swedes rise up in rebellion and gain independence again
>repeat for a hundred years or so
>somewhere along the lines they give up on trying to recreate the union and they settle for fighting over important pieces of land instead

Most obvious reason would be Chritstian the Tyrant

Why did it take the HRE almost 800 years to unify and become Germany?

Aren't the Danes much more conservative than the Swedes?

In some aspects no, in other aspects yes.

If the EU becomes defunct, we may see the ultimate goal of the Nordisk Vision fulfilled in our lifetime

swedes were no better than germs. Its better they they're all dead

Animosity. I think us scandinavians are bad (or good, I suppose) at holding grudges. Whether that be for the Stockholm massacre or the loss of Skåneland or any of the brother-wars.
Things like these would need to be worked out and settled for the north to unify.

I'd still prefer Denmark-Norway and Sweden, but a Kalmar 2.0, if properly done, could be great.

Skåne tilhorer Danmark

swedecucks btfo, Denmark-Norway only

Kom och ta det då danskjävel

>similar
The former wants destructio to own race and culture. The latter the opposite.

Because Denmark is not part of Scandinavia geographically so it would be a hassle to go with boats there if it ever needed to be defended.

>Trusting the eternal Dane
There's no reason to unite two countries when they can simply cooperate.

this

Aren't Swedes just bargain-bin Danes, though?

Denmark is really free market capitalist, nationalist, and anti rapefugee immigration. Sure you get taxed into oblivion, but the social services actually work. Major problem is that working class and most of the middle class cannot afford to buy a house or car.

They've fought more wars between each other then England and France

Denmark is filled with immigrants, you're clueless, bet you don't even live there.

t. never been to either Sweden or Denmark

Are you retarded? Scania and Norway were part of Denmark for hundreds of years and it worked just fine

>really free market capitalist
This is not true for any nordic country

>Sw*des

Germans are notorious for crushing Imperial delusions.

>and it worked just fine
Obviously not since they lost it all to Sweden dumbass

t. Amerishart

>A united Scandinavia
Gross

You're all cucks tho, you can bond over that.

Such an ugly flag, imagine what the reaction would be if someone used this color combination for their fursona.

Please go to You obviously know nothing and are less white than any european, Amerishart.

It had very little to do with the small straits, the danish navy was always better than the swedish.

Obviously not since they lost

They lost on land, not at sea

I'll just leave this here

Yeah land is kind of the point of wars

You're kinda right.
They are racist but not sexist or homophobic.
Those taxes are getting decreased though. Probably for the worst.

Making a nordic cross flag that could represent all the scandinavian countries (because the colors are fundamental to the flags meanings) is fucking impossible without making it look disgusting (pic related). I think the best solution would be a total redesign.

The Dutch didn't allow it.

Swedes walked over the ice doing a small ice age in the middle ages.

The historic separation of Denmark and Sweden is very simple. You may have seen it before. Water

background need to be a dark color to look strong

Elaborate

Very true
Very not true

t. actual dane

the strait that seperate denmark and sweden was controlled by denmark on both sides for hundreds of years. like from the early medieval period or something to the 1600s.
and why would a tiny strip of water stop a seafaring nation?

Nah, this is wrong. The Swedes didn't fight for independence until Gustav Vasa. They fought for the right to choose their own king during those earlier wars but once the swedes won the two sides agreed to have a dual monarchy until the swedish king died. The the swedish king died and the swedes once again picked a king which sparked another war and the same thing was agreed afterwards.

>russia controlling grand dutchy of lithuania
>poland has black sea access

no, but norwegians are like swedo-dane sporks

This. One must also remember that water connected people more than separated them during this era.

What about the Engelbrekt rebellion 1434? They managed to dissolve the union.

>danes dont have fugeess

top kek, you larping neets are funny
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No they didn't. The union got dissolved in 1521(1523 if you're a sperg).

Did they not depose the king and drive danish forces from Sweden and gain de facto independence?

>gain de facto independence
No, they fought for increased sovereignty but stopped short of independence.

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Estonia?

>implies anyone was implying Denmark doesn't have immigrants
>doesn't think Inger St*jberg, the most racist of all politicians, would take the chance to blow this out of proportion
>forgets that people have every right to punch nazi pigs
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL XX--DDD

>including finland in a file called nordic.png

DU TALLER IKKE DANSK OG SVENSK REEEEE

Yeah fuck Christian. His father was liked by both Norway and Sweden, but just had to die from a cold he got by falling from his horse ass first into Skjern Å.

>Nordic: Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Denmark and Finland
>Scandinavia: Sweden, Norway and Denmark
So shut the fuck up

Almost all of the wars prior to the War for Independence during the Kalmar Union between Sweden and Denmark were either for more autonomous government or because the Danish king, who was also king of Sweden, employed taxation/land policies that favoured the Danes. Sweden and Denmark were separate countries but were ruled by the same king.

Tornionjokilaakso on suomalaista savea

geographically the scandinavian peninsula is norway, sweden, finland, the republic of karelia and the murmansk oblast
((culturally)) and linguistically the scandinavian people are swedes, norwegians, danes and fenno-swedes

finland go home and make some history then come back ok? praise moder svea not ukko suomi

The Dutch wanted to make sure neither nation would get control over the Oresund strait. A united Scandinavia would put too much power in the hands of one nation over trade in the Baltic Sea and so the Dutch came to the aid of Denmark when Charles X besieged Copenhagen in in the war 1658-1660 and helped Charles XII when Denmark tried to retake Scania in the great Nordic war.

>Finland is not located on the scandinavian peninsula

On an unrelated note, how do you think the plague reached Sicily?

your'e confusing Scandinavia with Fennoscandia.

No, that's the actual Scandinavian peninsula. Jutland is a peninsula of its own, it has nothing to do with the Scandes.

The actual Scandinavian penisula is Sweden + Norway + parts of Finland and Russia.
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And most of Finland and Karelia got nothing to do with the Scandes either.

most of what is today sweden's most populated region was made of danes, only through conquest are they related

>hurr durr fenno-scandia is not the same as scandinavia
>according to this metric I pull out of my ass.gif
Fenno-Scandia was offered as a solution to quell autism at the turn of the century because some people, ((danes)), couldn't handle not being a part of Scandinavia
Albeit it is most commonly used as a cultural denominator and not geographical, so it isn't surprising you are wrong.

there is a bridge there bro. you can drive with a car from Sweden to Denmark

Our languages and cultures are closely related and used to be the same back in the Viking age, it has little to do with conquest

>culture and language does not change over time
England had a language and culture so closely related to Norse and used to be the same back in the Viking age they are pretty much the same, right?

the common parlance of the british isles picked up words from the vikings sure, and the anglo-frisian from the sound influenced it to an extent, but it was nothing comparable to the proper common languages that actual scandinavian peoples spoke

"english" was ever, and still is, a mishmash

I suppose suppression of language is not conquest

English is first and foremost saxon-norse, with frankish, latin. french and frisian added on in that order.

posd benis :DDDD

>today
You mean most populated in the 18th century and a bit into the 19th

Swedes a insufferable faggots. You wouldn't wanna live with the either.