What did Jews do to be so hated by Germans, Poles, Russians and others during 20th century?

What did Jews do to be so hated by Germans, Poles, Russians and others during 20th century?

What was the root of all the antisemitism?

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They weren't Christians

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Neither were muslims but no one tried to put them in death camps.

Nor did people try to genocide atheists in 20th century.

It clearly was not a religious problem.

they weren't christians and they allegedly killed Christ

What were the balkan wars?
What was deturkification?
What was the reconquista?

It differed depending on the culture. The Germans hated them because of 19th to early 20th century racial science. The Russians for religious reasons.

So what about the other almost 2000 years of Christians hating and killing each other

>muslims weren't put in death camps
ok but muslim communities didnt exist throughout europe like jewish ones did
look at the treatment of muslims and jews where they did live in europe, in iberia post-reconquista
pretty similar treatment

Reconquista was not an attack but a defense against an occupying army.

Balkan wars happend due to ethnic and political reasons.

>What was the root of all the antisemitism?

the jews being jews

What racial science?

There weren't Muslims communities throughout Europe in the same time period. Can't exactly scapegoat someone who's not there.

psuedo-scientific methods to justify long held prejudices in an age grounded in the enshrinement of the empirical rather than the metaphysical/religious

It had a long history of being mostly motivated by religious hate ("the jews killed jesus") but in the 19th century several new discoveries/intellectual developments/ideas/ideologies came together to lift it to a different level.

at its very base antisemitism in europe was just a case of humans hating people who are not like them. jews were a visible minority and since they were pushed out of other enterprises they took to moneylending (which christians weren't allowed to do) which made them economically successful and drew more hate on them.

the word antisemitism was created in the 19th century and with it described a new form of hate based on assumptions about the inherent character and biology of the jewish people. it could build on a long history of religious hate but it had a new quality. the 19th century was when europeans were dominating everywhere in the world and from this they derived their ideas of inherent superiority of the white man over all other races. they tried to back this idea scientifically with theories and classifications of different races. in the political ideologies of the time darwin's theory of evolution was taken in a garbled half-understood way (i.e. as it was understood in the popular imagination) along with the idea of the inequality of the races, so the idea that came out of this was social darwinism, the idea that what was taking place in the world was a fight for survival of the strongest (not the fittest as with darwin) both within society and between different societies and races (not just in nature as with darwin) and this was taken not only to be a statement of fact (as with darwin) but as a moral imperative - this fight was seen as a good and necessary thing for the betterment of the universe. that's the part that advances in biology and their misunderstanding contributed.
The actual word antisemitism was inspired by advances in linguistics though.

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lmao I seriously hope you don't believe this about the reconquista
you're literally buying into propaganda from the 1400s

Two main reasons. First reason goes way back and it's due to Wealthy Jewish clans that society didn't approve of like loan sharking mafias, banking clans, media monguls families and so on. Second is due to the disproportionate amount of Jews found in pro Marxist activities and political organizations post WW1 which people hated due the degenerative cultural impact they had on society. For these two reasons people came to hate them.

>during 20th century
During at least thousand years user, and maybe more I don't know. Same reason as other special snowflakes like gypsies or cathars, they marginalise themselves, they pay for it.

>due to Wealthy Jewish clans that society didn't approve of like loan sharking mafias, banking clans, media monguls families and so on

Who built up these families though? Who decided to think up the idea of a "Useful Jew," did Jews come up with that idea?

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In the 19th century the comparitive method of historical linguistics was developed and people became aware of the existence of different language families, specifically the first ones that were discovered were the Indo-European (Greek, Latin, Indo-Iranian, Germanic, Slavic etc.) and the Semitic (Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic etc.) family.
and again these new findings entered into political ideologies in the way they were popularly understood, i.e. in a garbled way. People who were looking for an ideology of origins rather than scientific study of language interpreted the findings of linguistics in a way that constructed a fundamental opposition between those two language families that were discovered early on while at the same time falsely equating language with race. the indo-europeans were briefly believed to have called themselves aryans, and while it was quickly discovered that this could not have been the case and that aryan was only the self-designation of the indo-iranians, the notion quickly spread into common "knowledge" and people started to construct an idealized image of the "noble aryan ancestors" while comparing them to the "corrupt semitics" who were seen as their polar opposite in every way. jews were then cast as the "semitic race" in a mix of race theories and garbled linguistics. of course none of the european jews actually spoke a semitic language, they spoke yiddish which is germanic and used hebrew only in religious ceremonies. with race theories and social darwinism coming together you quickly got the idea of the "noble aryan race" taking its rightful superior place for being the strongest and destroying the corrupt and corrupting "semitic race". this idea becomes totally ridiculous when you see how it was applied against the gypsies who are literally "aryans" (in that they speak indo-iranian languages) whereas germanic actually isn't "aryan" at all.
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nazi ideology has been descibed as a "dumping ground of 19th century ideas", it was a bizarre ideological mix that took seemingly at random from all sorts of ideas current at the time. it was perceived as bizarre even in the early years of its rise but somehow circumstances conspired to put it into power and made this garbled mess of ideas a major intellectual force. a lot antisemitism in eastern europe was inspired by nazi examples, though of course it was strong and present even without their influence.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleman_minority

Excellent posts.

>What was the root of all the antisemitism?
Jews were hated by everybody, but I heard somewhere that because Europe was basically a Christian society after the fall of the Roman Empire, and Jesus drove the moneylenders out of the Temple, Christian Europeans generally did not engage in moneylending. Of course, the Jews weren't bound by these laws so they became a source of loans, and people generally tend to hate people they owe money to. Over the centuries it became the source of memes like "the greedy jew".

>all these intellectuals
Stop it plesae. They always lived on the margin of the society, period.

Usury

that doesn't explain why it became so much worse in the 20th century though.
you're on a board dedicated to history and humanities, this is the kind of place where you shouldn't be suprised by intellectual discussions

>Jews were hated by everybody

NOT TRUE. THIS IS A ZIONIST LIE.

INDIAN JEWS WERE FINE IN INDIA.

GEORGIAN JEWS WERE FINE IN GEORGIA.

KURDISH JEWS WERE FINE IN KURDISTAN.

CHINESE JEWS WERE FINE IN CHINA.

PERSIAN JEWS WERE FINE IN PERSIA.

MOUNTAIN JEWS WERE FINE IN THE CAUCASUS.

THERE ARE MORE EXAMPLES

>Chinese Jews
What do they do, loan you broken money?

>when things go worse and worse
Do you seriously need a whole discussion?

Propaganda and groupthink played a big part. For a modern exercise, just look at /pol/ and see how many people fall for the memes that gets posted and become genuine anti-semites.

>more people, therefore things are worse

alright, historical discussion is cancelled.

Jews has been hated since midevel times by any country they wonder into

They are like Gypsys with fraud banking abilities.

>Neither were muslims but no one tried to put them in death camps.
They were expelled or forcefully converted with secret police enforcing said convertions, in those small parts of europe with muslim minorities
>atheists
aren't an ethnic religious group either so your analogy is failed, nonetheless atheism was a criminal offense in the vast mayority of european civil and religious laws

I mean it could contribute. It went from less than a billion to more than 7 billion man

>Reconquista was not an attack but a defense against an occupying army.
jaja
no
it was a series of wars spanning centuries over a wildly changing frontiersland, with as much muslim and christian intestine fighting as open religious warfare
also, most of the muslim population was composed of converted native iberians

Their existence caused a lot of the multiculturalism and non homogeneity Europe is suffering in this day

Jews were always ostracised and killed. When the population increases (and not just a little) the killing increase too, especially when in addition the technology is better at it and the promiscuity gives no escape. Nothing special happened in the 20th century, the figures just matched the reality. No need to find a political/social/religious reason.

All of those were wars to get rid of foreign Muslim invaders

i don't get why you would argue for making a foregone conclusion and against even just thinking about things and discussing them.

Because that's the topic? The only thing that characterise the 20th century is population and industrialisation, compared to the rest of history where the jews were treated in the exact same way. Looking for reasons other than statistics is mental masturbation.

Are you braindamaged? They are Semites and went into non-Semitic lands.

It boggles the mind doesn't it. Obviously if some tennant was forced out of every single house he inhabits throughout the years by 200 different landlords then it must defo be the landlords who are in the wrong

Black skin people have been discriminated against in this country since the beginning

So defence against occupying enemy is by chopping off the heads of those who don't want to convert? Don't know about you user but reconquista is an act if offensive that is supported and allowed by the pope.

iran jew were not fine in iran stop spreading lie

Jews have been hated for thousands of years. The Romans wrote the same things about them that the Nazis did. Martin Luther wrote a book called "On the Jews and Their Lies".

Germans had a good reason to hate the Jews. They had recently lost WWI and then in 1918-1919 the Jews decided to have a communist revolution to fuck Germany up even more. Almost all the leaders of the revolution were Jewish.

Jews controlled the newspapers and the money. Hitler gained a lot of wealth from seizing it from the Jews. He also arrested a Rothschild, but he the Rothschild was later released because his family paid the biggest ransom of all time.

Jews had also fucked other countries with communism. Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, all Jews. A huge amount of Soviet leadership was also Jewish.

Jewish influence did not stop at communist countries. They controlled the Anglo countries, and were everywhere among Hitlers enemies.

Ok who let this retard speak

Not an authentic Franklin quote

Read Mauz
Just fucking read Mauz.
Its one of those pieces of media that do indirectly make it clear why.

>DUDE FAKE QUOTES LMAO

>DUDE ATTRIBUTING QUOTES FROM A PEDOPHILE RAPIST NEO-NAZI TO PEOPLE LIKE VOLTAIRE!

so this...is the power...of stormfags

Because jews steal kids and drink their blood

Prejudice

Communism

lad..

This. All antisemitism stems from this point.

/pol/'s hatred of the Jewish is so stupid. They are basically mad that a group of people appear to be more successful than them.
Also agree, those posts are great.

Fake quote
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Prophecy

As an outside/non-assimilated group they were easy to scapegoat. The Jews in the Pale of Settlement/Eastern Europe weren't nefarious internationalists plotting the downfall of the white race, they were poor peasants restricted only to a select few occupations.

The idea that ONLY Jews were hated in Poland/Germany is fairly ridiculous. They were simply the oldest groups. Poland committed pogroms against Ukrainians, Czechs, Hungarians, and Germans from 1918 to 1939. Germans committed similar acts against Poles from the 19th century onwards. Russia pretty much oppressed everybody but forbade Jews the most legally which blew up in their face later.

what does /pol/ think it achieves by lying and presenting fake quotes

i agree, whites are evil

1) Good scapegoat to cover up jewish practices of others.
2) It's not like they, at least partly, don't shit in the soup of society they live in.
3) Not christians
4) Usury and similar practices, but every faggot used that.

They only really lived in Bosnia and Albania and no one gives a shit about Bosnia and Albania except Italians

Jews are secretive because they were an offshoot of Semites in an area where people where constantly warring.

So they became secretive and didn't mix with other cultures even in other countries.

Persecution due to paranoia of this caused them to be even more secretive and separatist.

It's a vicious cycle.

jewish deicide accompanied with black propaganda against them defiling christian imagery.But they were mostly the scapegoat for rulers who have a large debt

I have some bad news for you buddy. Only a blind fool refuses to acknowledge the obscene reality of the Holocaust and the number of Jews that were ruthlessly slaughtered. Furthermore,you will be terribly disappointed when the Jewish people and the state of Israel one day rise to their rightful place as the most honored nation on Earth. And just when you might think that things couldn't get any worse,the world will ultimately be ruled by a Jewish King!

>White people
>Expelled from Latin America

Africa really did fuck up.

There isnt any clear cut reason why, but alot of it i assume comes from them being very secretive and exclusive (waaay back in the day).
When bad shit happened it was always easy to blame it on those quiet weirdos who arent Christian.

>The reconquista
They literally opressed more jews than muslims, they were even worse than nazi germany.

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