Was the holodomor ultimately worse than the holocaust?

At least the Nazis gave the Jews the opportunity to move back to Israel.

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REEEE COMMUNISM DID NOTHING WRONG

No, because there wasn't any intention of killing millions behind Holodomor. It was just conflict between the government and private farmers that lead to starvation.

Meanwhile, Holocaust was a well thought-out plan.

>was something that never happened worse than something that did happen
no?

>communism mistakes are more deadly than nazism's plans
Really boiled those beans

Right after that they had a series of anti-national purges against minorities in USSR.

I dont know about worse, but I think they were both pretty much equal in terms of utter brutality.

On the one hand, the holocaust was an intentional assembly line genocide, while the holodomor was simply a marxist ideal failing in real life, and then the state having an autistic and stubborn devotion to that idea with "the best intentions" And you could say that at the very least, the intention wasnt to mass murder an entire people, but I think that having a good intention while doing some evil shit is even worse. At the end of the day, the nazis believed their genocide was good for the world as well

Kraut revisionism at its finest.

Do they blame the famine of 1891 on the Tsars? Do they blame the potato famine on Anglo capitalism?

No, but Krauts systematically butcher millions needlessly and all of a sudden DEY WUZ GUD BOYS.

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>communism hates minorities
>nazism hates minorities
Why don't they get along?

>Kulak sabotage = le ebil JEWs

Sometimes they do. They've shared their technology and ideas in the past.

They were getting along just fine until the Krauts stabbed them in the back

Marriage of convenience. They compete for the same niche.

Does it matter what was worse?

t. butthurt commie

>what would win
>an industrial mass murder operation involving the latest in chemical weapons technology and the infrastructure and military might of an entire continent
or
>1 churka

...

>famine of 1891
Caused by bad weather
>potato famine
Caused by blight (a fungus), mostly mitigated by UK aid in the Highlands and emigration in Ireland
>Holodomor
Caused by collectivization, something exclusive to Marxism

One of these is not like the other

>the Irish famine wasn't that bad cause people could move out of Ireland
wew

>Unironically believing the hoholohoax
>Nazis gave the Jews the opportunity to move back to Israel
Wew lad

> Was the holodomor ultimately worse than the holocaust?

Yes, because humans died.

>At least the Nazis gave the Jews the opportunity to move back to Israel.
No. And holodomor was just a big famine, hell the Nazis probably killed more Ukrainians than holodomor.

>implying "the jews" are some hive mind collective and they gave a German Jew in 1938 the same 'choices' as they gave a Ukrainian Jew in 1941

The separation of Messenia from Lakedaimonia in the early-mid 4th c. BCE was worse than both of them put together.

>Anglo capitalism
It wasn't capitalism. It was anti-Irish sentiment and shitty farming laws.

t. khohol

How could they Germans have *planned* for all of the prisoners to get typhus?

Where did the laws come from? Capitalists lobby government.

Aside from imprisoning groups of people (they're guilty of every death that occured there no matter if it was a firing squad or typhoid) there was an official program of elimination especially after Operation Barbarossa stopped making the resettlement impossible while still keeping many German soldiers, so necessary for the eastern front, in occupied territories patrolling cities, ghettoes and camps.

Oh did that "official program" involve any gas chambers or Holo-coasters that dumped carts of Jews into a big oven?

It involved whatever historical method has proved using above all else primary documents.

WWII has been historically proven. A veteran saying he personally captured an enemy batallion with a pistol not necessarily.

Holocaust has been historically proven. Auschwitz funhouse not necessarily.

If you have doubt about any historical event (not just personal stories) you'd have to reevaluate the most important sources and check the authenticity. Without it you've got nothing and just wasting everybody's time.

>At least the Nazis gave the Jews the opportunity to move back to Israel.

Israel was created after the war dum-dum