Would the Treaty of Versailles have done a better job at preventing WW2 if it had split Germany in half? What split would have made more sense, East-West or North-South? It feels like total dismantlement of the Kaiserreich was either too hard or not hard enough a punishment if you were looking at it from a long-term stability perspective.
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>Would making Germany more split up and unstable have prevented WW2
This better be b8
we owe our current peace to the annihliation of Germany and Japan et al countries who were annihalted earlier in history like Sweden. Filthy pale-faced niggers is all they were.
>Peace
When?
>What split would have made more sense
complete fucking dissolution, then parceled up and given to other countries
Maybe, if it hadn't stolen any land, it wouldn't have been necessary?
Germs should have been exterminated.
Shouldn't been in half, it should have been a few different countries based on the distinct German regions. Have Swabia, the Rhineland, Bavaria, and Saxony be their own countries.
>would making German states smaller and easier to pacify, meaning they can't simply ignore the conditions of the Treaty as they did IRL have helped prevent WW2
Well gee, I don't know.
>Smaller and easier to pacify
You realize that a nation isn't just arbitrary borders right? Germany is filled with Germans, Germans who are extremely pissed off and want to be unified at all costs.
I guess you don't know much about Pan-Germanism so I'll let it slide
Germany was united for less than 50 years by the time WW1 ended, pangermanism was not absolute, and regionalism was still strong. (See Alsace-Lorraine's desire to rejoin France and Bavaria's initial reluctance to join the German Empire)
Regional identities can be brought back, strengthened, and Germany divided, as Austria-Hungary was and as the Ottoman Empire was.
>Pan germanism united as a nation for only 50 years so I'm going to ignore the fact that they fought a world war to keep their Kaiser and the entire history of trying to unite Germans
>Because if I ignore how massively butthurt the Germans would be if you literally destroyed the 90% or so of Germany and drew up arbitrary borders, everything will be fine
This must be what it's like to be an Anglo on a daily basis.
>they fought a world war to keep their Kaiser
No, they fought a World War for continental supremacy, you brainlet.
How exactly do you intend to enforce a divison of Germany? Occupying them is not an option and they will reunite by popular demand the moment you don't back it up with military force. People who think you can seriously politically divide Germany again are fooling themselves.
>Split Germany up into multiple smaller countries
>About 10 years later, they all vote to recombine
Wow you sure showed them who's boss. The only thing that could have prevented WW2 is if the October Revolution never happened. The events of 1917 made WW2 an inevitability.
Friendly reminder that WW1 was Bavaria's fault
They are the ones who forced the Kaiser to annex Alsace-Lorraine in order to have a buffer between their rhenish territory and France
Bavaria is the cause of all Europe's problems, just like their Austrian cousins
>About 10 years later, they all vote to recombine
You don't give them the right to recombine.
And how do you intend to enforce that? A military occupation? That will surely be a popular move politically both at home and internationally, and most definitely will not piss off the germans more.
Military occupation, yes, what the UK and France were supposed to do when Germany started rearming but never had to balls to enforce.
Divide and conquer, pit different regions against each other.
>you'll piss off the Germans
You say that as if Germans weren't going to be pissed off no matter what. The fact that the Entente accepted Germany's surrender before the German population were made to truly taste defeat meant revisionists and revanchists were sure to pop up no matter how lenient your peace treaty was going to be. Better make it easier to enforce the terms of the peace treaty than to count on the German state being reasonable.
Okay, so instead they form an "alliance" or "confederation."
>That will surely be a popular move politically both at home and internationally
it would be extremely popular both at home and abroad actually.
>and most definitely will not piss off the germans more.
Good thing they would have zero power then
So instead they start a revolution and refuse to pay reparations
Now why would they do that if it's not in their interests?
Strike down and punish whoever the leader of this "alliance" is before they get to rebuild their military.
No they fought a war to keep their Kaiser you blood thirsty Anglo
You mean, what actually happened?
>If we just violently crack down on the Germans over and over again it will surely crush their will to rebel
Oh yes that worked so well in India, China, , Africa, and the United States.
Fucking Anglos
I'm Spanish, you dunce.
Except they did pay reperations and there was never a revolution against a foreign occupation? Brainlet
As long as the damage is less than what WW2 has brought upon the world, yes, it'll have "worked".
>they did pay reparations
They defaulted on them, you moron.
>there was never a revolution against foreign occupation
No, but there was a revanchist war of aggression against their people they owed their reparations to.
>Oh yes that worked so well in India
it did, India was british for over a hundred years and got independence peacefully
>Africa
barely any major rebellions when colonised
>United States
Britain didn't violently crack down, that was their mistake
This is wrong
Bavaria/other southern German states have always had a more distinct identity than the south. so if germany had to split up then I would say North/South makes more sense. East/West was more a product of allied military occupation than anything else.
*north
By which I meant Prussia. Sorry .
Except it wouldn't make it better it would make pan germanism even more militant and widespread you Anglo pseud
They were forgiven their debt Anglo pseud
>There was a war against the people they owed reperations to
They were *forgiven*
>It got indepednence peacefully
After you starved them, genocided them, then left them Pakistan to deal with
PERFIDIOUS
>Britain didn't violent crack down on them via a war and protectionistic policies , the policies that lead to the issue in the first place
ALBION
>African colonies had no major rebellion
Apparently an illiterate PERFIDIOUS ALBION
t. Poo in loo
>Germany defaulted
>Reparations were more than 50% of Germany's ailing economy
>Expecting any realistic payments on this kind of debt slavery
No wonder everyone doesn't give a hit about Germany trying to make debt slaves out of Greece and Spain. Nobody even batted an eye besides America when it was done to them in the 20s.
t. a rare refugee-loving Anglo
I hate illegitimate refugees.
And Im not an anglo (probably)
>Split up Germany
>They reunite only with Austria included
Woah
Just like how they voted to recombine in 1955 right?