Why conquering/submitting other countries has become immoral ?

Why conquering/submitting other countries has become immoral ?

Enough people have experienced it to realize how awful it is and don't want to inflict that on others nations

Because people realized it's more profitable, and also more humane, to do it in relatively peaceful way.

Ironically because Christians conquered the entire world and Christian ethnics have made it immoral.

It's only awful for the conquered
Like economically ?

It's shit. Most people now see another man as a fellow, rather than an alien, so they can relate to the misery and humiliation of being subjugated. Also the media helps to highlight said misery so it becomes harder to justify it.

>Most people now see another man as a fellow
Only in the West

Yes. Wars were usually fought for resources, and there are better and easier ways to secure resources today.

Creating a world in which you cannot conquer also makes it less likely to be conquered yourself, which is great

Yes, but the point is that at this point there's no one out there who hasn't been conquered or humiliated in some way, and since we all now know what it feels like to be in that position, we don't want to do it to others.

It's called empathy

Humanity cannot change in 3000 years, we aren't much or less empathic than our ancestors were, also having empathy for your rivals is called a weakness

What I mean is that today you can ruin other human's life, rape little girls and do other things like that as a civilian but you can't torture someone if you're under a military uniform, civilians piss on the homeless, have no sense of family and empathy for the people they see everydays but they get triggered when they heard about "war crimes"

>conquering/submitting other countries has become immoral
My sides

romans got their shit fucked plenty of times
ultimately everyone gets conquered at some point. kind of dumb to kill and enslave when it will just happen to your people in the future.

>peacefully annexed Crimea in the name of democracy
That's the only province he """conquered"""

Putin's ''conquests'' are of different sort.
He isn't expanding into Mongolia or Kazakhstan, or Finland, he's trying to stop Ukraine from becoming US vassal (so it can become his, obviously).
Furthermore, Ukrainian nationality is a very shaky thing in majority of the country, so he has a good reason (in absolute sense) for such an expansion.
And let's be real, even though you could argue Ukrainians are their own nation now, historically they were simply regional Russians, and history proves this without any doubt. East Slavs never really diverged on their own like other groups of Slavs.

Information travels too easily. People catch on to your macho bullshit, they know better than to wait their turn for you to conquer them, so they’ll gang up on you while they still have the numerical advantage.

Also, when you brutalize a conquered people, revolutionaries use the accumulated evidence as propaganda to rally people to their cause.

>Humanity cannot change in 3000 years, we aren't much or less empathic than our ancestors were
I'm not saying we changed in intrinsically in any significant way, we really are the same people we were back then, but education has changed. If we take Average Joe American or Euro and take them back in time to a gladiator game, they're not going to like it whether its a man or animal being killed, they've never been exposed to such things before (unless you had the luck to pick the guy who frequents LiveLeaks)

>also having empathy for your rivals is called a weakness
And as such modern nations no longer have rivals they focus on defeating. And the moment someone steps out of line and does something deemed immoral, everyone else will work together against him, e.g. sanctions on Russia following the Crimea thing

>What I mean is that today you can ruin other human's life, rape little girls and do other things like that
Yeah, certainly, but its so exceptional an uncommon that whenever it happens we hear about it on the news as a tragedy, where way back you'd have military leaders allowing and encouraging such behavior by all of his men in the sacking of city

Rome conquered because the city was in constant danger until Augustus
When you brutalize a conquered people, they are too terrorized to do anything, look at the Mongols or ISIS controlled cities

White guilt, if white people never existed Im sure coutries would still be conquering others right now.

Putin would have succeeded if the JewSA could fuck off for once.

>I'm not saying we changed in intrinsically in any significant way, we really are the same people we were back then, but education has changed. If we take Average Joe American or Euro and take them back in time to a gladiator game, they're not going to like it whether its a man or animal being killed, they've never been exposed to such things before (unless you had the luck to pick the guy who frequents LiveLeaks)
So it's just the modern comfy life that has make the modern human to dislikes conquest ?

>And as such modern nations no longer have rivals they focus on defeating. And the moment someone steps out of line and does something deemed immoral, everyone else will work together against him, e.g. sanctions on Russia following the Crimea thing
Most of modern nations have democratic systems which leads their leaders to only care about their rule and do extremly court term politics, of course they don't give 2 shits about international rivalries but they do have intern rivalries, it's like the intrigue in Crusader Kings II

>its so exceptional an uncommon
lol

So putin fear the american warrior?

4th generation warfare has made domesticating a conquered state very difficult, and usually way more costly than it is worth.

Mongols were 800 years ago and ISIS is all but defeated at this point

t. Vladimir

It shows that the conquered country is lesser that the one that conquered it and ever body wants to be equal for some fucked reason

Because it's no longer some story we hear about things going on "over there". We can see the results and hear the complaints of the downtrodden. It is no longer a glory filled fairy tale, it;s a portrait of murder and violence.

More like the Americans fear the Slavic warrior, that's why they up-play him so much.