Was mass education a mistake?

I grew up white in majority black area and disagree but i guess i must just be a cuck right

Probably

Poor family structure destroyed blacks worse than slavery ever could.
A child needs a father.

i wonder if the mods only moved this thread here after seeing my suggestion or if they just decided to do it themselves

I think you're confusing race and class

Someone needs to read up on crime statistics based on race and income

bwap bwap parap toot

edgy liebrals already infecting this thread

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A better approach would be different forms of education. Some people are better suited for trades, others for academics. We should try to offer a wide variety of subjects and teaching styles, then giving kids the choice of pursuing what works for them.

Pretty sure Germany does this.

If only that were true

No we need education right now in this country. Thanks to the lack of education, America is a fascist dictatorship under Donald Trump. Seriously, why can't people wake up to the fact that for over a year now, we have elected a fascist dictator. Fascism has come to America and you are all blind and not willing to see the big picture. America under Trump is a fascist dictatorship. Trump is going to create a secret police, start disappearing people, Jesus Fucking Christ, is he going to built concentration camps?! I think he's going to do that! Fuck man, this country is fucked!

>Was mass education a mistake?

Yes.

Teaching you to read led to this thread being created, which led to some much more valuable discussion about kangs being relegated to the archive.

I grew up in a white majority area and everything user just said about blacks is right. Guess I must be an edgelord then huh

Not really, they just need to implement tiers. The problem is teaching everybody to the lowest common denominator. Massachusetts schools often have multiple categories (Honor roll, normal, no chance of college, technical, sped)) and tend to be the best public schools in the US.

>but i guess i must just be a cuck right

you are:

-younger than 25

-either skinnyfat or morbidly obesse

-have typical numale fashion sense (beard, receding hairline, glasses)

-are obsessed with "le nerd culture"

-are a leftypol shill

how many did I get right?

every teacher at schools like this I have ever known says that they can tell right away which kids are useless and will be dead from a drug deal gone wrong and which ones actually have a chance really early on. Then, their mission is to just teach the ones with a chance and sort of quarantine the other ones away from them. But they also have to be careful because the parents or guardians of the kid with a chance might be a piece of shit and they need to protect them from them as well.

t. edgy 16-year old who's crush got BLACKed

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also
>reddit spacing
>using - instead of meme arrows
faggot go back to T_D/

How fucking new do you have to be to take such shitty b8? Vertical slices user, vertical slices

Go back go worldstar, jamal

>I-I was only pretending to be retarded

hes not the guy who posted that, I am. Also, you clearly are upset by this and are a cuck

>not that user
>am that user

This, if only OP was illiterate we wouldn't have to listen to him anymore.

This

Stop lying. Going to school with blacks and you will notice constant disruptions in class, rampant fights and bullying, drug trade/drug abuse and overwhelming security. Security cameras everywhere and police always near by.

>tfw I had a black guy in my HS who was really fucking good at science shit
>tfw his studying at university for physics
>tfw /pol/ and T_D will claim I'm lying

Jokes on you, I don't know any girls

Exceptions only prove the rule. Blacks by and large are a group of delinquents.

>tfw when I saw a rainbow pheasant once
>tfw when people will think I'm lying just because it's statistically improbable
Fuxkin speiceists

>what are self-fulfilling prophecies

>Exceptions only prove the rule
Damn that's a good point. The fact you hold onto that anecdote only gives credence to the obvious trend

>has one example
>you have none
1-0 faggot

>Exceptions only prove the rule

t. 20 year old whos never been outside of his gated community in his life

youre milktoast bird brain doesnt understand that some people are just pieces of shit and that being poor doesnt mean youre a saint

Kekistanis are hated by actual Stormfags for being non-racists "civic nationalists"

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>>you have none
You can't be serious. I grew up in lousianna dude i have about a thousand. I think you're projecting your own inexperience, doesn't suprise me. Racism is directly correlated to proximity with black populations

give one then faggot
if you have a thousand that should be no problem

>multiple people who have spent years working with this system all tell me the same thing based on their, and others in the same professions, experiance

>"hurr Im an idealistic 20 year old whos just now hearing about this for the first time and I know better than them!"

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bell curve

>Racism is directly correlated to proximity with black populations
Why are Eastern Yurops racist then?

They're surrounded by niggers everyday, it's self-loathing

The problem is not mass education, but that education outside of the technical areas became shit and that nowadays we have university professors giving courses on Beyonce.

Why is that a problem? You can choose not to take a dumb Beyonce class, and most people do.
And if you want to, its your money, spend it on whatever classes you want.

unironically this

It shows that education in the humanities is poor.

>When you have no idea what /pol/ even thinks
I bet you think race is just skin color and skull shape too. Rightists btfo

What is the problem taking couses about Beyonce? She is one of the top figures of modern pop-culture. Honestly studying beyonce is better and more useful in a modern society than studying about the roman empire for example.

But we were talking about the United States? Daily reminder that most of the world does not deny race on either the base or academic levels , and it's purely a western phenomenon.

Maybe because racialism isn't just a knee jerk reaction made by southern rednecks

Not really. No one is forcing you to take a Beyonce class, and its certainly not pulling away students from those who would be taking classes on Catullus or Renaissance thought.

Beyonce is a manufactured pop star who makes shallow music. You can't compare that to a Cicero or a Seneca.

Yes, really. If there is an epidemic of shitty courses, education is shitty.
If there is an epidemic of crack addicts, society is screwed even if I don't use crack.

How the fuck do you argue that it's purely a western phenomena with a big comparison of... Western and Eastern Europe only. Not to say recognition of race as a taxonomical term isn't really racism.

I also doubt a proximity function even in USA when you have plenty of racist country bumpkins while Blacks are mostly still found in cities.

But she is a product of our age and as so will teach you something about the modern society and help you understand it better. Dont you think that is important too?

What in the world are you considering an epidemic?
My uni has about than a dozen courses you might consider shitty, and we're a university of 30K+ students.
Regardless, the point still stands, that no one is making the decision between taking Seneca or a wine tasting class.
Are you really implying that taking addictive drugs is akin to taking a college course that interests you by the way?

There are better ways to understand our society than studying a manufactured pop star as if she was Plato.

>She is one of the top figures of modern pop-culture

Theres youre answer. Taking a fucking course on pop music from a "fun" standpoint and not even from a managerial or economic point of view, but from a feminist "you go girl!" self esteem inflator is drek and students who actually take shit like this or harry potter class deserve to go into massive debt

I'm saying that an increase in the proportion of shitty courses means education is getting worse.

>China isnt Racist
>The middle East isn't racist
>Japan isn't racist
M8 not even eastern Europe is non-racist, the majority of the world is not your western based liberal capitalist society

What for example? I really dont see that studying Plato or Cicero will help you with that. But studying a famous icon of modern popular culture will do just that. Well maybe not modern society as a whole, but atleast the cultural part.

>I also doubt a proximity function even in USA when you have plenty of racist country bumpkins while Blacks are mostly still found in cities.
Hmm... Also, most of the urbanites I know who live around blacks are some of the most racist people I know. If you think whites are racist, you should talk to Mexican immigrants sometime, lol

>The most successful and advanced parts of the world aren't racist
Woah. So fucking decide already with your proximity of blacks theory. Why does it only work in the USA?
But cities are more liberal than countryside?
>Hmm... Also, most of the urbanites I know who live around blacks are some of the most racist people I know
Your personal experiences are irrelevant. I accept actual statistics only.

Studying Plato or Cicero will teach you plenty of valuable lessons.
If you want to study modern society, there are better ways to do that than studying popstars as if they were Plato or Cicero.

And youre still not addressing any of the issues with that statement that I have cited against you.
Furthermore, a couple of extra courses does not an epidemic make. You forget to add that there are more courses offered now than ever, as well as more students. Where are you getting these statistics from on "an increased proportion of shitty classes"?
Would you consider a course on the Lord of the Rings a shitty course? Because its very evident that the series had a massive impact on literature and film, despite the fact that its pop culture.

Well I honestly dont see how studying any other points of history have any other kinds of ''managerial'' or ''economic'' points of views. For example what will you do with the knowledge of some ancient meme empires? Atleast knowledge of modern culture is useful in fields like communication and journalism.

According to jewish agitators no, it was a miracle
thanks to the teachers the goals of the elite can be spread in every single school and every kid will work for the directions dictated by them

Jews + White trash marxists = destruction

Why are you on this board then if you more or less just said studying history is useless?
And if you want to study modern culture in addition to musical theory, female singers, and more?
Just a flat wrong statement.

Honestly most of the arguments going around right now are "I dont like what you like".

Valuable lessons usable in what? Whining about how modern culture is rotten marxist carbage?
And I admit I should have used the term modern culture than society. But regardless since popular culture is nowadays such a huge part of our lives, with mass media and all that, it actually is useful in understanding the society.
Dont get me wrong im not entirely denying the value of studying ancient philosphers. Its just that I dont understand why you think its ''wrong'' to study modern pop-culture?

>The most successful and advanced parts of the world aren't racist
But China, Japan, and Eastern Europe are extremely racist.
>Cities are more liberal than the countryside
A few things you need to look up
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-segregation
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital
In urban environments people self segregate based on ethnic, linguistic, religious, and other misc cultural affiliations. For the most part, living in an urban environment is about mass consumerism and ignoring the plight of your neighbors, which is why urban centers have something called a
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Because urban centers a shit for social capital. This is why ghettos exist and why crime is so rampant in urban areas. So basically, people who live in urban centers form a strong clique then refuse to interact outside of that clique. Those who do usually become "bigots", because back in the day urban centers used to have massive amounts of conflict between different groups. Problem is, they still do but more people want to ignore it.

I am not denying the usefulness of studying history. What I am saying is that studying modern history, modern pop-culture is more useful for a modern day person. I just dont understand why you think it is a sign that humanities studyies are poor?

If the average quality of education declines...

Did you just ask why reading Plato or Cicero can give you valuable lessons? Tell me you didn't just say that.

>Eastern Europe
>successful and advanced

>China
Poverty and only the world's biggest economy contender for its population. Worse military than the USA.
>Japan
Relatively advanced society plagued by even worse birth rates than west and economic stagnation that's again worse than west. Also cultural problems and relatively poor living standards comparably.
>Eastern Europe
Estonia is growing and relatively not poor, dunno how racist it is. Poland is growing but isn't really at the level of the west, and has divide between western and eastern though. Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Hungary, balkans are all degrees of shithole.
>Some shit
So it's not a function of proximity you're saying, because there is a pretty fucking basic definition of proximity.

Well tell me. What will I learn by studying Cicero or Plato?

>What I am saying is that studying modern history, modern pop-culture is more useful for a modern day person

The state of modern education.

Youre mixing up the wrong posters.
I am only saying that your assessment of studying modern culture being more useful is wrong.
What you study is your choice and most often ends up being what is more relevant to you. While I entirely agree with someones right to take a class on Beyonce, it is neither interesting or relevant to me and I will find far more use out of studying Roman law.
You can keep making up "statistics" and not addressing the blatant issues with your statements and ill keep ignoring you.

Other than the foundation of Western Civilization, timeless wisdom on the human condition and priceless lessons on how to best live life?

You have never read those guys, have you?

>You can keep making up "statistics" and not addressing the blatant issues with your statements and ill keep ignoring you.

If medicine students are starting to learn more homeopathy and less evidence based medicine, wouldn't you say medical education is getting worse?

>successful and advanced
Pretty much, especially on a worldwide basis
>China
>Poverty
Lel
>Japan is bad country to live in because birth rates
Don't forget some of the lowest crime rates in the world, a massive GDP, and being internationally ranked as one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world :D. Also, it's one of the most overpopulated countries in the world, so it's birth rates *should* be declining
>Eastern Europe is a shit hole
Compared to us westerners, we never have crime, poverty, incarceration, disease ohhhh... Wait a minute... We do. In fact. And the US has some of the most violent cities on the planet in it...

>So it's not a function of proximity
Lrn2 read

>Cicero
Rhetoric, law theory, logic, linguistics, Roman history (of course)...
Before you say anything, remember that these things might not be relevant TO YOU, but to a lawyer or Roman historian they are far more relevant than taking a class on Beyonce.
This is plenty to get from Beyonce and plenty to get from Cicero.

Does the liberal cuck in this thread even live around alot of blacks?

I must apologize then, I kind of got heated up midst the argument. I think you summed my thought up pretty much with saying that it is a subjective view what you find usefull and what will help you in life. But honestly Its just that I cannot understand why someone thinks that studying modern culture is a sign of decadence? Its your opinion if you think that Beyonce is shallow artist producing bad music. But to completely ignore her because of this? There are millions of people listening to her, and what she does affects a lot for example in advertising industry, music industry etc.

Are you implying that Japan, China, and Eastern Europe aren't nuclear apocalypse tier because they disagree with user about race?

Fucking bigot , who would want to live in a technologically advanced society with almost no crime. What are you, a member of the KKK?

You literally just made that up.
Even if some med school out there offers a course on homeopathy, I can guarantee that it is not a required course and that no one is deciding to take homeopathy over a class on modern medicine.
Give me something factual and we'll talk.

Beyonce is a shallow artist and an inferior thinker to Seneca, Cicero, Aristotle or Plato. Also less useful than they are.

>Don't forget some of the lowest crime rates in the world
And yet they are more afraid of walking around at night than western Europe. They have problems with their criminal system.
>a massive GDP
At the level of western countries, mostly beating singular European ones due to bigger population.
>so it's birth rates *should* be declining
Its not overpopulated. Population density != overpopulation. Aging population is also bad for economy.
> and being internationally ranked as one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world :D
Together with western countries.
>Compared to us westerners, we never have crime, poverty, incarceration, disease ohhhh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Europe
OHHHHHHHHHH

Did you just even read what I wrote down? Youre just shouting fedora-tier comments.

Its fine I kind of jumped in.
I am in full agreement with that statement. I don't listen to Beyonce but its your prerogative and your money to spend on a class on Beyonce. If you think you'll get more out of her than taking Cicero, by all means take the class.

I used that as an hypotethical, I didn't say medicine courses are doing this. If that happened in medicine courses wouldn't you agree their quality is declining?