Does getting Veeky Forums make you more likely to vote Trump?

Does getting Veeky Forums make you more likely to vote Trump?

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yes, because it shows you how hard work pays off and mooching off other people and relying on others does not.

Yes

If lifting doesn't make you conservative and right-wing, you are doing something wrong

Technically yes. When you work to improve yourself instead of waiting on handouts and leeching off others you naturally dislike lazy people. IE sanders supporters.

>clearly has no idea of trumps past.

Stop trying to ruin our fun.

When you can turn $1 into $100 come talk to me you liberal cuck. That's basically what he did. With minor differences of course.

>suck old man cock 3xf

Oh look a redditor

Yes, going to the gym has made me hate pajeets and spicks

If you think turning a million into 9 billion is easy why don't you turn your savings in 9000 times their worth?
Yes, he got a leg up, anybody who denies that is retarded. But it's also pretty fucking dumb to pretend that just anybody could do the same thing.

;_;

>hey guys, gather around for a group photo!
>no karen, don't bring the trump sign, none of us want political shit on our facebooks
>karen no, put the sign away just for this one photo please

Chad supports Trump, why don't you?

I'm not liberal first of all. Secondly it's not that fucking hard to turn $1 into $100 if you actually try; aside from how easy it is when you have an extensively wealth family with massive connections. Trump built his name and an empire for himself, I'll give him that; but to think it was with out help or that he didn't do it on the backs of those who trusted him and worked for him you're not only terribly mistaken but horribly misinformed as to how the business world works. Trump made the vast majority of his money by flaking on investors and declaring bankruptcy before things could be finalized. I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, however, because this is America and I strongly believe that if you can make money doing something then by all means get your fucking bread and butter in. All I am saying is that the picture of trump and this saving grace and positive role model for the working man is fucked: he doesn't give two shits about those who worked for him; he made his cash off of their losses.

there are numbers suggesting that had he put that million into mutual funds the minute he got it, it would end up being be more than what he has today

It's a hell of a lot easier to turn 1 million into 9 billion than it is to turn $1 to $9000

This.

But Trump isn't conservative, he's a nationalist centrist

tl;dr fuck off with your wall of text.

Studies have shown again and again that physically fit males are more conservative, google this shit nig.

Clearly you have no understand of finance.

You too are an idiot.

>have $0
>work minimum wage for one year
>draw welfare because you can
>now have $10k

He's a businessman. Doing that means he'd have absolutely no capital or record.
That's like the equivalent of winning the lottery.

DRUMPF

Whoa nice post number.
But numbers suggesting that are gross exaggerations, as anybody who's actually studied investment or economics will tell you. It's the best possible case scenario, ignoring several externalities.
Also the reason people don't do it is because they can't.
Sure, because the power capital carries, that's fair. But it's no easier to turn 1 million into 9 billion than it is to turn 1000 into 90,000.

This. money works for itself. increasingly

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this. based superman user

clearly i don't give a shit

>welfare
but i thought welfare was mooching user.

Obviously, or else you would have learned some. How's that minimum wage working for you? Oh, that's right. You work for it.

How ironic, given your username.

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We can take other picture of trump rallies and show you some of the fattest white trash you've ever seen. I'm Veeky Forums, lifting 5+ years, and voting/already voted for Bernie so no I wouldn't say it automatically means your voting for Trump. strange attempted correlation OP.
That said I'll vote Trump before I ever see that Hillary creature in office.

Thats a factum. the realtive costs of transactions are sinking. u get more and better information with more money=more influence. and last but not least u can influence the market just by investing urselve other people will take that signal and invest by themselve. at the end u can take influence on companies themselve if u are holding a big share urselve. just logic user

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Trump was born into obscene wealth, how that translates to men building their body up from nothing is anyones guess

Its a frat thing bro. They've always been the conservative gentlemen. They probably don't know shit and this picture is a collective of chads and Stacy's brb gonna fucking helium myself... Jk I'm too stupid to die.

Is a left swipe good or bad? I don't do online dating

Only if you first start off by asking your father for a small loan of Dbol and Tren.

True alpha

>voting for the democratic trump
Are you 18?

no, but it makes you less tolerant of lazy moochers and more right wing generally. more likely to be libertarian is probably more accurate.

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Bad.

Bernie is the guy who knew how to fight for what he believed in from day one. It is that same grit and determination that I use to lift at the gym.

Keep supporting that spoiled man-child, faggots.

I support this.

Besides, all you fucking edgy, mentally-premature people have failed to witness Trump changing his policies since becoming the sole Republican candidate. He's reversed his position on wages and taxes, and is now wavering on his ban on Muslims. But you're all too busy screaming buzzwords and listening to tedious political rhetoric without examining his policies in full. Most are so narrow-minded to even consider counter arguments, and that doesn't do anything but halt progression of debate to ultimately arrive to what can be considered the best-reasoned conclusion.

I'm not even American and I seem to know more about US politics from keeping up to date on current affairs than some Americans that I speak to on a daily basis (which is an abundance). This is what happens when your education is so insular and your cultural values incorporate a dog-eat-dog approach.

Adopting policies of fear is always a popular way to rally support, but it's reactionary - it ignores the future, and that's something Sanders endorses. Working together to create a better society for everyone.

Yes. If you're at the gym you're probably somewhere on the road of self improvement and the gym is probably the purest form of getting something you want by working for it. You can't be born into squatting 500 pounds, you have to work for it.

Basically you're asking if people who are competitive, hardworking, and want to be the best version of themselves look up to someone who holds those same values and is practically the alpha male apex.

God I am so sick of these fucking moronic sheep that continue to call Trump racist or sexist or whatever and yet they can't name ONE SINGLE thing he has ever said that is racist.
I pray every one of these idiots either move to Canada or get hit by a car.

Whos the based cigarette man

It's super fun to make stuff up on the Internet. Care to prove any of that nonsense you said with some interview quotes or videos?

She already in Canada. It gets worse too.

>able to get significant welfare while also having a job

You are fucking retarded

They always threaten to move to Canada, never Mexico. Racist fucks lmao

This bait. This fucking bait.

my spirit animal

Saying illegal male Mexican immigrants are rapists sounds a bit racist to me tbqh

Reminder that cucks like this belong in the trash and entrepreneurs should inspire you.

Jealous ass crab bucket niggas.

Oh God. Well fuck that stupid bitch. She is just gonna continue to shout racist like the small brained parrot she is no matter how much proof you give her.
What bait? These are my honest feelings.

probably has something to do with the fact that like 90% of women who immigrate illegally from Mexico are raped along the way

but hey man idk

She unmatched me after this one. Pretty fun desu.

Trump is uncouth, but he's full of hot air. He's ran a campaign of appealing to the lowest common denominator in the Republican party because it was the only way to secure a nomination in a field full of establishment candidates. He doesn't intend on doing half of what he says (or, in all reality, can't). To that end, I don't really know what to expect from his Presidency. He's the "conservative" so I have to vote for him, not to mention the fact that the next President will be appointing up to 3 Supreme Court justices, which is a huge fucking deal, especially with all of the gun-grabbing going on. A 7-2 liberal supermajority is not what this country needs right now in the highest court.

Clinton on the other hand, has already committed multiple crimes and displayed an inability to put things such as PR to the side in the event of a major American crisis (like Benghazi). Her foreign policy record involves letting Russia take Crimea and encroach further on Eastern Europe, China encroach on the south sea, the rise of ISIS, and Libya.

Let's just say I know what Clinton has done, and what to expect, and I want her as far away from the oval office as possible.

So he's always been a cuck

I thought it was just a campaign strategy

Damn, semantics is everything isn't it? He says there are rapists coming across the border, and criminals, and Mexico knows about it, which is all true.

This would be funny if it weren't the prevailing view among retarded white sluts

That's what people who make $8 an hour do. That or work two jobs for 60 hrs/week.

>working together on a better future for everyone
>especially the people who dont fuckin deserve one

> make stuff up

Need I do everything for you lazy Americans?

Backtracks on wages and taxes: msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-flip-flops-taxes-wages-he-turns-focus-general-election

Softens stance on muslim ban: bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36272236

The fact he was willing to make exception to Sadiq Khan says it all.

Also, he backtracked on taking money from donors when he said he'd be the only one to fund his own campaign as donors meant he'd be open to corruption: vox.com/2016/5/9/11640038/donald-trump-donations-big-money

Throw your support behind Bernie if you don't want Shillary as President.

No politician has ever kept a promise, so I don't think anyone expects trump to.

Kek
Gr8 bantz

Yea, it can get pretty annoying. I just have fun with it. They're so easy to trigger.

>implying All hard workers like trump
youtu.be/y2sfAzRDwGM

you don't seem to understand there are a great number of people who are fundamentally opposed to socialism so would never under any circumstance vote for a pinko with a poor understanding of economics who didn't even hold a real job until he was middle aged

what sanders endorses is policy based on feelings, and that is not a system of leadership that has ever worked. once you graduate from college and start to earn a living you'll realize that socialism is an idealistic, broken system.

Thanks m8

Not that user but this is a fact. And this applies directly to populist candidates

I don't, that's how I see it.

So both Trump and Clinton are flip-floppers, these properties nullify one another and render the qualification moot.

So what else do I have to look at? Track record, I despise Clinton's. As the job of the President is commander in chief first, and they have the greatest control over foreign policy, it's important to have someone with agency and strength there, as well as a sense of nationalism. She lacks all of those qualities.

>African American
The fuck would she call a Jamaican living in France?
Or a white South African in New York.

honestly, I didn't think it was that common anymore to get mad about not referring to blacks as African Americans

>Track record

Trump has none

I'm not saying people should be able to mooch off society and do what they like. It's important to acknowledge that there needs to be an equilibrium - an effective balance between the benefits and costs in devising policy. What I would advocate, strongly, is that American society adopts a more compassionate approach.

I'm going to get lambasted for this, but the US probably pays more for insurance than it would cost under a system of National Healthcare. It already spends more GDP overall than other countries with national healthcare systems, which means it's costing you more in tax anyway. Meanwhile, insurance can be inadequate for those who cannot afford to pay (thus, their condition deteriorates and cannot work, becoming more of a burden), and may not cover everything that the individual needs care for. At the same time, there's loads of horror stories of people being saddled with debt for life.

> Socialism is an idealistic, broken system

You've been raised to be fundamentally opposed to anything that means communally supporting one another. It's every man for himself. I'm not a supporter of socialism, just a supporter of more equality, and fairness. Nordic and Scandinavian countries are homes to the happiest people on Earth.

Exactly. None > categorically bad.

>Nordic and Scandinavian countries are homes to the happiest people on Earth.

How about this, we let Sweden take another 20-30 years, see how all of this mass integration and creation of an enormous non-homogenous underclass goes, and then see how "nice" and "happy" their social democracy is.

Because you're basically trying to extrapolate countries akin to Massachusetts across the entire Union.

She's just some dumb girl. She engaged the conversation, so I assume she unmatched solely because she realized how dumb she was and just couldn't take it. Her way of plugging her ears and walking away.

I'm going back to Pol

Girls do that a lot. They cannot debate. Be it due to some mental thing, their lack of having had to argue and fight growing up, or just lack of knowledge in general (but still thinking they're qualified to have a strong opinion).

Swede here, we are literally going down the shitter now. It's unsustainable with all these fucking dune coons invading.

wasn't bernie a fuckup until he entered politics where he accomplished what exactly?also he's old
And shillary is the definition of piggyback rides to power,this bitch succesfully defended a guy she knew was a pedophile by bullying the 12 year old victim/witness. also bernghazi etc etc etc the list never ends with her. It's a shit roster this turn,but trump is the unlikely candidate that seems reasonable.
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Just to point out, I don't agree with mass migration. I don't think these people are 'refugees' or asylum seekers unless Sweden handpicked them from war-torn Syria in the first place. I don't believe Sweden has any obligation to accommodate people. I think countries who invade, or contribute to the aggression in another country, are morally obliged to accommodate refugees because they're partially responsible for the circumstances in which those people are in.

Over the past 120 years or so, there's been about one year in which the US has no involvement in military activity abroad. Sanders aspires to stop this involvement and save that money to spend on America's internal affairs.

I agree, and acknowledge that. I think it's unsustainable and a poor idea, as is the case in Germany (made by Merkel without democracy). PRIOR to this, Sweden seemed to be doing pretty well for itself.

Trump suggested taking a haircut or defaulting on US debt. This is literally the best way to fuck every single American. This guy is honestly more of an idiot about the economy than Bernie.

He appeals to rich people. Rich people tend to have money and time to improve their looks and health.

Here's my thoughts on social democracy: ideal policies require ideal situations. The Nordic countries were homogenous, unified, affluent, and had a strong bureaucracy that made the transition to this kind of system smooth and effective. Now time will tell if that holds up with the influx of outsiders.

As for other European countries that attempted this, we have seen a decline. As you said, mass immigration is a terrible companion to social democracy as it destabilizes and bankrupts it.

The United States is a country of immigrants and we're never going to shake our high immigration rate because people don't believe in shutting the door here. On top of that we have a very large poor class in comparison to our middle and rich counterparts. A transition to this system would be messy and possibly disastrous for productivity since the dynamic is more disparate.

I don't think things are terrible as they stand. We need more regulation, and the national and state bureaucracies need purged of corruption and ineffectivity, but I don't think a drastic measure is in our best interests. Our economy is doing ""fine"" as far as the world is concerned right now and I personally don't want to end up the next, and biggest, Brazil or Argentina.

Also I think our class stratification is based off of more of a meritocratic system, in that you have a higher ceiling here, while the floor isn't starving since we still have welfare and safeguards, so I'd prefer to keep and refine our system rather than overhaul it for something that could jeopardize our national identity and the stability of our economy and productivity.

You only get one shot at this

I doubt it'll hold up with the influx of outsiders, but it's important to remember that these countries have a big land mass in comparison to its population size. Geographically, it has the space to accommodate people. Whether it has the financial capability, is another question.

What other countries have attempted it? Germany has, and has an exceedingly good economy and is largely self-sufficient in its energy needs (as are many Scandinavian countries). France evidently failed. It shows there's more to running a country that an economic plan, or hope.

> we have a very large poor class

This is why I emphasise a more compassionate approach ought to be adopted. I think American education (beneath University level) needs vastly improving and much more investment. From my perspective, education is the very foundation in which an economy operates in the future. Smart people means more innovation and creativity (provided the legal framework in intellectual property law and cyberlaw don't stifle them) and that means improving society (which includes living standards, jobs, and the economy).

It continually boggles my mind how people automatically assume that because you're pro-welfare in beliefs, you must also believe in open borders and free immigration for all.

My views are radically different - mostly because I'm an Ausfag - but I strongly believe that social safety nets are absolutely vital in any country. Perhaps I'm biased, but my country seems to straddle the line between generosity and personal responsibility quite well.

You can't live off the government, but they won't abandon you if you lose a job. They'll put you in work programs and make you earn your welfare. You have the option of a public health system, or you can choose private health insurers. My experience with both has been pretty exceptional. You pay for your university education, but it's there's no interest and you only pay back when you earn over 55k a year. You also receive benefits for studying to make it easier. Most importantly, we don't have open border policies that let in boatloads of refugees.

But yeah, this was just a long and pointless post to say I 100% agree with everything you're saying. It's a shame you'll mostly get reactionary hate.

This desu it's definitely a case of correlation != causation

It's the standard here in the states. If you're a liberal, you're pro welfare, and pro compassionate open borders immigration, which are very much at odds with one another. Generally speaking. If liberals could transition to a protectionist, controlled immigration stance they would make more coherent sense.

The only time I see this much wall text is when my ex is mad at me for some shit.

Exactly.

I find most Trump supporters believe that the moment you want to help people, it means bankrupting the country; saddling the country with more debt; and taking away peoples' property and money like a thief and that's not the case whatsoever.

Like yourself, I think a safety net is essential, hence why I argued the case for a National Health Service. Safety nets ought to give people at the bottom end of society a boost to enable them to become independent. I also agree with what you say - this service/net should only be made available to those who are deserving and try hard to make improvements.

What frustrates me the most is university tuition costs. The US and UK have it extraordinarily bad, graduating with £42,000+ (if taking into account average maintenance costs) of debt before even starting their first career. These people, on average, contribute more to society, yet they're almost being victimised for doing something beneficial.

Controlled migration is essential for population control and economic balance in my opinion.

Overpopulation is already a global issue anyway, but that's a whole other can of worms.

Political propaganda pls go

Skelly detected.

Shill detected

>has no concept of poverty or how expensive being poor is

Ignorance like this wants me to actually meet you in real life