Whats up with all these leftists claiming "real communism never happened? What about Russia, China, Vietnam...

Whats up with all these leftists claiming "real communism never happened? What about Russia, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba? You can't deny that none of them were communists when they clearly called themselves communist.

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literally none of them called itself communistic

Why do people keep posting this cumdumpster like she's something special?
She's very average with a shit looking body, is this really the best communists can come up with?

>You can't deny that none of them were communists when they clearly called themselves communist
I guess North Korea is a Democratic Republic then

>Soviet Russia didn't consider themself communist

"no"

telle me when any Soviet official said "we are communistic country"

Stalin did

when, good sir?

> You have an idea A
> Countries implements a different idea
> Country claims to have implemented idea A
It doesn't matter if a country claims anything if thats not what they are doing. North Korea calls itself democratic, do you point towards it and shout that democracy has failed? No? Thought so.
And don't give me that "They don't count because they are obviously not what they are stating" bullshit, that goes for any "communist" country as well.

All of those states defined themselves as socialist, not communists. You can easily check this out in their constitutions.

The Western tradition of Marxism is largely based around the academic tradition of Kautsky and the schools that followed Orthodox Marxist tradition. Going as far back as to the Russian revolution, the German theoreticians largely criticized and disowned the Russian implementation and theory of Marxism. Despite largely similar starting points, it would be absurd to think that the two intellectual discourses could not be in disagreement over what constitutes proper implementation of socialism/communism.

Also Venezuela is a market economy.

One day I was talking to a communist that argued that communism is incompatible with capitalism.
Then I read Marx saying that communism would only happen after years of capitalism... well, you don't have to be a genius to understand Marx wanted a state capitalist society. Communism will never happen. It's the forever future society that will never exist.
In the meantime the communists will destroy everything because that's what they do

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I seen it on a wikipedia article

>She

But everytime it's mentioned that China is the largest economy and #1 in supercomputers, iron production, etc. /pol/ says China is capitalist...

It's a weird hybrid once you take into account the special economic zones imo

china has a mixed economy which is becoming more capitalist year by year. the amount of foreign investment and trade deals they are involved in is immense at the moment.

communism is the combination of everything that went wrong with western society
No wonder why so many white trash promote this garbage

There is no such thing as a purely 'capitalist' country. There has been and there never will be.

There is no such thing as a purely 'communist' country either.

The pure ideological endgoal is something to strive for and move towards, not something that will ever actually be achieved.

If your country is ruled by the Communist Party who dictates all economic, social and political action then in what way is it not a communist country?

Because Communism is supposed to be stateless, moneyless and classless.

According to whom? Lenin said the exact opposite, and Marx only said that the inevitable outcome of communism was a stateless utopia, not that there was any definite time scale on when that would occur or even that it would because of the meddling of the bourgeoisie.

>Literally lead by the soviet communist party
>Lol but they din say dat waz communizm guys

>According to whom?
Marx?
>When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character

That's what I said. He said it was inevitable, not when it would happen. China can still be communist, just not having achieved the final communist condition.

Then this was just a misunderstanding, my bad.

Because the road to communism is a long and perilous one.It doesn't happen overnight, there are stages and it must be reached before reaching the next step.
That's is why when you see countries like Vietnam or China you could be easily mistaken for a capitalist country because it truly is. They haven't reached the barest point of socialism because they acknowledged that in order to distribute the wealth evenly and effectively, wealth must be abundance and in order to acquire such wealth, aspects of capitalism must be taken.

youtu.be/zqyRoke3TAI?t=6m29s
I literally went to his speeches and listened

Le ebin not an argument

>Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
>Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic
>[every other nation] Soviet Socialist Republic
You're right, they were socialists.

>Idi Amin, literally king of Scotland
got ya mate

>puffy communism best communism

Well in the case of North Korea they never referred themselves as communist, and in fact they aren't communist.

Fucking Juche, man, how does it work?

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Fasten your seat belt:
>"The ideas of the juche can be summarized as follows: the people are the masters of the revolution and development of the country and have the capacity to promote them. These ideas are based on the philosophical principle that man is master of everything and decides everything. The ideas of the juche present a human-centered worldview and a political philosophy aimed at achieving the sovereignty of the popular masses, that is, a philosophy that lays down the foundation of the policy that drives society to its own development by the most straight way. "

Any government that calls themselves communist but doesn't work out is always denied by communists post hoc

they love to erase history, its their nature

>real communism never happened

Who is this and how much to stick my dick in their mouth?

Ofc it's not a argument, it's proof

In ideology yeah, but not societal organization.

Marx and Engels described communism as a society without private property, market distribution, or exchange value. In addition, they believed that once the proletariat had abolished those capitalist institutions the state itself would become unnecessary and "wither away" into nothingness.

She's got a popular Veeky Forums aesthetic and is explicitly commie

She's posted a lot for the same reason as that hot girl who did a photoshoot in a stahlhelm

Nah he said they were socialist, although Marx would have vehemently disagreed with that

Go gas yourself, faggot!