Western civilization didn't exist until Charlemagne

Western civilization didn't exist until Charlemagne

True.

>It is I, Charlemagne, Carolus Magnus, Charles le Magnat, founder of the Western Civilization.
>Bow before me, germanic servants, for I am made of Gold.
>It is I, whom can lift the terrestrial globe in one hand and a roman style church in the other one.
>I sleep beneath the mountain waiting for my time to arise.

Based Alcuin

read a book on that. charlamagne and muhammad. when europe and ME/N.Africa split after rome.

Is that supposed to be...?

Actually his name was Karl, Charles is just a later Frenchification so the serfs could identify better with their Germanic nobility.

N-never forget based Alcuin!

*european

Western civilization didn't exist until the early modern period

Europe and the east "split" during the third century crisis and fifth century schisms. They became disunited after the crusades. Charlemagne was in between those periods and had to compete with Islamic Spain.

THANK YOU

Tired of retards referring to things in Greece/Rome as being part of Western culture/civilization

t. brainlet

>Catholicism is Western Civilisation!
>dayyyuss vault!!1

What the fuck, but they are quintessentially western, butthurt g*rman.

t. Spengler

Greco-Romans were fucking aliens compared to Carolingian Europeans

They were most similar to the other ancient middle easterners

Europe was born after Charlemagne's coronation

Europe existed but it only meaningfully referred to Southern Europe. Southern Europe, Anatolia, the levant and north africa were and still are part of mediterranean civilization however.

>a continent with 500k years of history only existed after some French guy converted to Judaism

The near east had a Christian majority at the time. Were pagan Romans and near Easterners more similar than Christian Romans/Franks and near Easterners? Maybe, but I doubt it.

*tips fedora*

I speak of cultural Europe

Part of the reason Muslims were accepted so quickly was the enormous cultural divide that grew between the Christian northern Mediterranean vs Christian south

Western civilization has existed since the first walled towns of iron (or even bronze, who knows) age Europe.

Stop playing with semantics, you bloody coward.

So the Bantu were part of western civilization? AND the Sumerians? Cool

Western civilization is really American civilization.

>First true Western democratic uprising
>Consitution based on preserving individual rights and freedom
>Birthplace of modern capitalism and commercialism

European Civilization =/= Western Civilization.

>Tired of retards referring to things in Greece/Rome as being part of Western culture/civilization

>this is what amerigoblins actually believe

kys

t. g*rm

>america was the first democracy

>America is a democracy

Democracy isn't an imaginary concept