Quick hypothetical: What would the Japanese soldiers do in WW2 if they captured a Japanese-American soldier?

Quick hypothetical: What would the Japanese soldiers do in WW2 if they captured a Japanese-American soldier?

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I doubt there were any Japanese American soldiers considering we put Japanese Americans into camps during world war 2

>he doesn’t know about Sadao Munemori

that's why OP said hypothetical
they would execute him for treason

They would execute them for treason. They are fighting against the emperor's will and their Homeland and deserve nothing short of a beheading. It's disgusting to think they are fighting for Gaijins.

I would imagine they would execute them. But Japanese Americans were mostly sent to the Western front iirc.

>I would imagine they would execute them.
Why though? They're not citizens of the Japanese Empire?

That didn't stop them from executing American POW's.

Japanese who left Japan were seen as traitors and distrusted by mainland Japanese. The sad thing about American-Japanese in WWII is that both the American and Japanese government distrusted them and believed them to be spies of each other.

They would welcome them with open arms and forgive them considering how brainwashed Japanese Americans were, the Japanese would realize that they are just lost souls and they needed to be reintegrated in the IJA. They would tell them, "You are being deceived by Soros and FDR, who are communists and they want to take down Japan, please help us fight the New World Order and Soros and the globalists and win the Greater East Asian War for Japan."

There was a regiment of japanese-american soldiers, they got sent to Germany to avoid this whole torture business, also because they weren't trusted to not defect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)

Japan didn't have national citizenship laws until 1950. If you were a Japanese person living in Japan, you were assumed to be a citizen. If you were fighting for the other side, you were obviously not a citizen even if you were ethnically Japanese.

Not to mention Japanese-Americans who joined the army were US citizens.

underrated post

And rightfully so on the defection, even today. I remember one of the first deaths in Iraq 2 was a muslim in the US army going allah akbar on his own unit's mess tent with a grenade.

Foreigners and immigrants cannot be trusted.

The Japs actually captured a Japanese-American member of the Texas National Guard (he had enlisted pre-war when no restrictions existed on Japanese enlistment) during the Invasion of Java and proceeded to treat him like shit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Fujita

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Fujita
Why did he stay loyal?

American values.

>The 442nd Regiment was the most decorated unit for its size and length of service in the history of American warfare.[3] The 4,000 men who initially made up the unit in April 1943 had to be replaced nearly 2 times. In total, about 14,000 men served, earning 9,486 Purple Hearts. The unit was awarded eight Presidential Unit Citations (five earned in one month).[4]:201 Twenty-one of its members were awarded Medals of Honor.[2]

>HURR DURR FUCKIHNG FOREIGNERS THEY'D NEVER FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY AS WELL AS I DO HURK TERK OUR JERBS

are a moral degeneracy when compared to Japanese Values.

Please stop.

>"Wow, these children of immigrants in a time period where assimilation was encouraged and their community was viewed with outright hostility due to a treacherous first strike by their ethnic kin decided that they'd do everything they can to prove their loyalty? Welp obviously this will hold true in our time period, where assimilation is strongly discouraged - and any fuckups by the community in question are blamed on the "intolerant" natives for not being sufficiently accepting of their backward customs"

Let's be fair. The US' imperial interests in Asia were in direct conflict with Japan's and everyone knew it. That Roosevelt (who started supporting the countries that would form the core of the Allies from the start) played the economic warfare game until Japan struck militarily to avoid being cowed isn't and wasn't back then such a surprise (for the informed).

>X did something for Y years ago
>let's take in a bunch of retarded Z people because of this!

Your argument was:
>Foreigners and immigrants cannot be trusted
In response to the assertion that the 442nd was sent to Germany to avoid defection.

I replied by saying that the aforementioned unit was among the most decorated in U.S. Army history, and providing a valid source.

Nowhere did I state:
>Assimilation should be encourage
>That you were intolerant
>That paralells

Therefore I conclude:
>You are an asshurt /pol/ babby; in addition to being empirically BTFO

t. samefag

BOMBER HARRIS DO IT AGAIN

>Quick hypothetical: What would the Japanese soldiers do in WW2 if they captured a Japanese-American soldier?

A better question is: How did the Japanese react when they realize Japanese-American soldiers help with the occupation of Japan?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident

>The island's Native Hawaiian residents were initially unaware of the attack, but apprehended Nishikaichi when the gravity of the situation became apparent. Nishikaichi then sought and received the assistance of the three Hawaiian locals of Japanese descent on the island in overcoming his captors, finding weapons, and taking several hostages. Eventually, Nishikaichi was killed by Niihauans Benehakaka "Ben" Kanahele and Kealoha "Ella" Kanahele;[1] Ben Kanahele was wounded in the process, and one of Nishikaichi's supporters, Yoshio Harada, committed suicide.

>The incident and the actions of Nishikaichi's abettors demonstrated the potential for racial or ethnic allegiance to overwhelm national allegiance. This ultimately may have influenced Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to intern Japanese Americans during World War II. Ben Kanahele was decorated for his part in stopping the takeover, but Ella Kanahele received no official recognition.[1]
>trusting the eternal nip ever

Only two Japanese-American servicemen were captured in the Pacific theater.

Frank Fujita, an Army sergeant from Lawton, Oklahoma, was captured along 550 other Americans after the Battle of the Java Sea in early 1942. When the Japanese finally realized he was Japanese also, they tried to coerce him into joining them. When he refused, He spent the rest of the war in custody, mostly on an island in Tokyo Bay, forced to produce propaganda broadcasts.

Hawaiian-born Richard Sakakida was also an Army sergeant, an intelligence agent, who volunteered to serve as General Jonathan Wainwright's interpreter during the negotiations leading to the capitulation of Corregidor. The Kempeitai, Japanese military police, tortured him for two months(on the grounds that he betrayed his Homeland), but eventually accepted his false claim that he was a civilian who had only worked for the Americans under gunpoint. A senior Japanese officer eventually put him to work, as a translator and servant. Sakakida used the opportunity to filch Japanese military secrets and eventually engineered the escape of almost 500 Filipino guerrillas from prison. In December 1944 he fled his post and remained in hiding for the remainder of the war. He retired a lieutenant-colonel and died in 1996.

>one incident means the entire population of Japanese Americans are trying to overthrow the nation

Japan basically considers foreign born Japanese and their descendants as those who "gave up" on the nation today, I imagine it was just as autistic back then if not more so

>I doubt there were any Japanese American soldiers considering we put Japanese Americans into camps during world war 2
That was only the Japanese on the west coast being moved east. The law that was passed said that the military could move jams away from key military installations and the military then said the west coast was a key military installation.

The law was passed to prevent sabotage/suicide bombings by Japanese immigrants and was just because just 1 Japanese spy could have caused untold damage and after Pearl Harbor, they were clearly capable of doing so.
A small number of spies could cause massive damage
(The Oklahoma city bombing was done by 2 people with no foreign assistance)
(9/11 was done by like a dozen)
(Most mass shooting are 1 guy)

The Japs had suicide bombers with planes, they could have had undercover agents

>(The Oklahoma city bombing was done by 2 people with no foreign assistance)
>(9/11 was done by like a dozen)

To be fair the suicide attacks only came in later in the war when Japan was on the defensive

>Quick hypothetical: What would the Japanese soldiers do in WW2 if they captured a Japanese-American soldier?
fucking retarded as the americans are and were, even they considered this eventuality, which is why the dirty nip fuckers were sent to fight the krauts while their families rotted away in concentration camps. noice. uncle sambo aint nuthin if not a mean kunt

>"US Japanese wouldn't assist imperial Japanese soldiers against the US"
Yeah, well here's documented evidence of that exact thing happening.
>"Well, it goes against my views, so it's not real evidence"

Nip defense force must be out today.

>one incident means you can just ignore the constitution and intern american citizens while selling off their private property
ebin

Except we know from the exceptions who were in the Pacific (intel/intepretter/spy/commando/prewar enlistment guys) that Japanese-American soldiers were more than willing to kill Japanese soldiers and the Japanese hated them.

Honestly, what they should have done is let those Japanese Americans join the divisions raised on the west coast and used them for all the propaganda value they were worth. Troll the shit out of the Japanese by killing them with "Our Japs" who re "Better than their Japs", have them taunt them in Japanese in combat.

Can you imagine how pissed the Japanese would be when they hear about this? It would be hilarious.

You know a Japanese-American got to fire bomb Tokyo right?

>proceeded to treat him like shit
>forced to produce propaganda broadcasts for the Japanese
How barbaric.

is that supposed to be sarcasm

Take a guess...

Why was it wrong to intern citizens if you thought there was risk of enemy collaboration.

first of all, it gives the enemy a good angle to exploit on the propoganda front, as it makes the US seem hypocritical (why would a nation purportedly fighting to free the oppressed peoples of europe go and imprison citizens who've committed no crime). second, you're depriving yourself of many talented citizens based solely on their ethnic background.
third, its quite wrong morally, in my completely subjective opinion.

Because it was more racially-motivated than anything else.

>Propaganda
Literally nobody cared back then. It's a public relations issue now- decades after the danger is over. Back then it might have been worrying to the populace NOT to take care of that potential danger.
>Depriving yourself of talented citizens
They clearly still had the chance to work and fight.

>Morally wrong
I ask you, how many men were forced to risk and sacrifice their lives in that war? How many men and women were forced to accept hardships and disruptions in their personal lives? The necessities of war justify acts of force that would not be acceptable in peacetime. The japanese civilians didn't do anything wrong, but their internment was a necessary security precaution - just like the drafting and sacrificing of soldiers is a necessary act in war.
Just for comparison, I'll point out that citizens of other enemy states (germans, italians etc.) were also interned - civilians that similarly had done no harm.

I'll admit that this doesn't justify selling their property, or other details of how they were treated, but the general concept was sound and justified.

>immigrants are good because of this handful
Nice

>Kuroki was later permitted to join the crew of a B-29 Superfortress in the 484th Squadron, 505th Bombardment Group, 20th U.S. Army Air Force, based on Tinian Island. Kuroki then participated in another 28 bombing missions over mainland Japan and other locations

He died in 2015 after giving those Japs fuckers what they deserved for messing with his homeland.

again, not actually was stated, as per that post

t. asshurt /pol/babby

>immigrants are bad because of this handful
Nice

>Japenese War Brides
Can Japan get anymore cuck?

There is an ancient Japanese proverb:

American Japanese are like the bananas you find in the grocery store. They are yellow on the outside, but white on the inside. Trust them no more than you would a banana.

Wow they really hate Japanese Americans

All this means is that the japanese are superior to white American piggus

One of them was a fucking Senator from Hawaii for almost 40 year for christsake. What the fuck is wrong with our fucking education system jesus.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye

>What the fuck is wrong with our fucking education system jesus.

It's run by Jews, faggots, and liberals for starters.

But I trust bananas
I have never been let down by a banana

I would have thought that a libertarian ball would have liked the inclusion of a helicopter into something

Said the memeball posting namefag whose namesake founded a domestic terrorist organization. Yeah, I’m pretty sure anything you say can be safely dismissed as wrong.

There was the 442nd RCT and a few that served as prisoner interrogators in the Pacific

Was this unironic?

So, 50/50 chance of being treated poorly or being treated like absolute shit?

This, but they probably would've tried to convince him to defect first. That said it never would've happened because the War Department made sure all Japanese servicemen were sent to Europe, exactly for this reason.

>This, but they probably would've tried to convince him to defect first.
why?

For the lulz

Read the thread, son. I probably should've done that myself, didn't realize some Japanese servicemen actually did end up in the Pacific theater. See

Japanese don't speak english so good. Translators that didn't hate their guts were a hot commodity.

>all these left-wing buzzwords

Who the fuck cares about how immigrants acted in a time period an increasingly small section of the population can even remember?

Last I checked Jap-Americans weren't running kiddy-diddling rings or blowing up public places in the '40s. Can't say the same for a certain other minority, though

>Who cares?
The guy who posted that foreigners and immigrants can't be trusted in a thread about WW2 Vets

>namefag
>left-wing buzzword
are you new here
like, not simply to Veeky Forums but here in general.

Probably not

:(

quite a card you're dissin'

...

i know i know. its okay. dont worry :)

nag nag nag

God could you be more of a redditor?

trust issuesh

But wouldn't the translators hate them, due to the torture?

God bless him

Not an argument

There were, but they were deployed against the Germans just in case.

>cites an attack carried out by a guy from California while complaining about foreigners and immigrants

Wtf i love foreign hordes now

It usually didn't end well.

how so

Look at it this way, the Emperor is descended from Amaterasu according to the state Shinto ideals instilled in you since school, he is everything bright and good about Japan personified. You won't think very highly of foreign born Japanese, especially if they aren't even Shinto with that background

What did he mean by this

Good

Are Japanese autistic?

They were sent to the eastern front (Europe)

what about the M.I.S

they created anime, soo...

Is that such a bad thing?

>Calif*rnians
>American

F

OP's picture is what you are stating doesn't exist. Literally.

They can be trusted but it's also stupid not to have some special measures and attention. If we were at war with Nordics then I'd want blonde blue eyed recent immigrant Svens or those with strong connections back home to have the same scrutiny we'd show to Abduls and Takamoris and Adolf Mullers. The problem is you have the mob thinking that means you need to throw them in camps or completely treat them as guilty before proven innocent when it's more "Keep an eye on these guys who are clearly potential vectors for fifth column work".

This isn't unreasonable when fifth columns have been used ad nauseum throughout history and into the present. Nazi faggots used them, Putin used them in Ukraine, the Armenians -were- often more sympathetic and supportive of the Russians than the Ottomans, Turkey has infiltrated Erdoganists among Turks in Germany to chase after anti-Erdogan Turkish expats, the Chinese have extensively used Chinese nationals in espionage efforts. Israel has the literal Sayanim system explicitly about taking advantage of Jewish citizenry without Israeli citizenship to facilitate foreign policy/intelligence objectives. This isn't some /pol/ protocols of zion nonsense but something acknowledged by Israel and pro-Israeli literature.

It's naive and utopianist liberal thinking to assume that citizenry with strong connections to the enemy may not house a higher volume of traitors. You just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and treat them all as guilty. Clearly however Japanese Americans are more likely to house a fifth column to Japan than Guatamalan-Americans or Senegalese-Americans.

Depends on the system.

Imperial Japan was Fascist, was it not? Why would it depend on the system?

It's weird they were not paraded around

Yes, without that state sponsored veneration the otaku started to emerge en masse, the Japanese psyche can't survive without an obsession whether that's work, muh emperor or some fringe hobby

>Imperial Japan was Fascist
Fuck no, it was ultra conservative, if a movement of disillusioned socialists like the blackshirts or SA existed in Japan they'd be fucking killed