Today 75 years ago the 6 army was encircled in Stalingrad. Only 6000 out of the 300.000 soldiers survived what followed

It would be a shame if they did not slowly die in aganoy in soviet camps. I mourn the world, where the kraut did not suffer every disease known to the East while ice storms froze their brothers and cousins to death in their very arms. While their own country begins to tear itself apart with assassinations on hitler.

BRAH LOOK AT THIS DOOD

OH NO NO NO NO

*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

This pasta is a little stale. I can even see the leftover embeds.

Wehrmach soldiers were rapists, mass murderers and petty thiefs, there is nothing to honour about them.

fuck you krauts stalin shouldve finisjed the job
>not turning "germany" into nature preserve

I mean, it sucked for them, but they were perpetuating a genocidal war against the Russians. So don't mourn too hard.

A fascist can never be human.

ALERTA

>operation Uranus
>Germans get their ass kicked
Like pottery

And thus, while the communist larper wipes dorito dust from his cleavage, he then returns to latestagecapitalism. This endless stream of procrastination, is the only future the marxist adheres to.

>genocidal war
This meme again.

Not an argument. Germans were genociding Russians. POWs were killed en masse.

Can the Aryan warrior even fight?
He's bested by people who he considers inferior.

Neither can commies.

Russians are shit by anyone who lives with them.

LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD

Fuck g*rmans and fuck g*rmany

Rest in piss

>Steal grain from the populace in order to feed your army
>Subject millions of innocent civilians to forced labor to support your war machine
>Kill over 2 million Soviet POWs though deliberate starvation and mistreatment
>Burn down entire villages in retaliation for some old Babushka looking at a German officer the wrong way
>Subject Poland to a campaign of ethnic cleansing in which thousands of Polish children and stolen from their parents and brainwashed, hundreds of thousands of intellectuals are killed by firing squad, and ethnic Poles are expelled from their homes
>Not genocide

More should've died. Filthy German scum.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, obviously, hindsight makes it easy to say it wasn't worth it, but at the time no sane person would not want war with the slaves, even though they lost it was the right thing to do.

The allies should have done more to stop the soviet union for their crimes.

>Any normal military would have probably ceased action and at least tried to sue for peace or talk of peace
>Germany committed such bullshit towards the Russians so that wasn't an option
>Had to slog through another 3 years to finally get an end to the war

Nazi leadership was woeful

If the Germans did nothing the Soviet Union would have done them instead.

WW2 should have been the Allies against the Soviet Union and the Japanese Empire (no the Japanese and Soviets would not be allied).

This is the best outcome, but the allies for some reason decided to declare war on Germany despite the soviet union committing similar "crimes" at the time.

Germany lost, but at least tried to do the right thing (when it came to the soviet union anyway).

Could have just waited for the Soviet Union to attack them then, still haven't seen any sources claiming that.

Point is if the Germany government wasn't so autistic to the point of racial hatred towards slavs maybe a lot of men and women could have been saved on both sides.

Instead Hitler doubled down after the encirclement

Are you saying a world where the soviet union was crushed and reformed with Germany keeping land that was (mostly) hers, to begin with, is a worse off-world than the one we got?

I'm saying if they weren't so autistic then yes that could have been a reality, the amount of Ukranians in that region who fucking hated Stalin would have been enough to win the war.

Instead the leadership went full autism and declared 80%+ of all those in the USSR as inferior. Imagine if the leadership from the first world war (baring the Kaiser) was in charge and up to speed in modern tactics. The war would have been won in less time than 1914-1917

Soviets were planning on spreading communism and taking over the entire European continent.
If hitler wanted the soviet unions land, and the soviet union was the threat, then why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone and wipe out the Soviets, let Germany have some of the land and bam, things could have turned out so much better for everyone.

Soviets did that too.

Why cant the German Cuck win a war?

Got involved in WW1...BTFO.

Started WW2...BTFO.

It doesn't make sense.

This is why they lost lad, a huge chunk of the USSR population hated the Soviet Union and would have gladly fought against it, but Hitler wanted his autistic vision fulfilled, its sad really because communism really was a threat. Its a case of two murderous ideologies going full out meme total war with each other.

>People still don't think that if Germany was even 50% less autistic with the nazi shit they would have won

Being a stormie must be suffering

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany

Soviets planned the forceful revolution and it was known but ultimately the soviet union was the greater threat to Europe and their continued existence was a huge problem for most of the century, I doubt Germany would have had such a negative effect on the world like the Soviets did.

Its pretty simple to understand tbqhwy

Less autistic superior German race policy = more chance of winning the war, which means communism would have been eradicated

If I enable someone to do a crime, then the right thing to do would be to punish both of the people responsible which would be the enabler and the accomplice.

If you are not interested in doing the right thing, which is established, then the best course would be to punish the worse criminal at least.

In this situation, the soviet union is the worst criminal and needed to be taken care of immediately by any means necessary.

>guten tag russian swines we liberated you from jewish bolshevism
>btw you are all inferior to us, and if you surrender you will go to gas chamber where you belong ;) Also we will kill 60% of you subhuman slavs and burn your villages for fun.
And thus kraut autists provoked a massive guerilla warfare, which costed them the entire eastern campaign. Well done.

Will they EVER fucking learn?

>allies for some reason decided to declare war on Germany
This meme again?
The Rhineland, Spain, Austria, Sudetenland, Czechia and now Poland.
Britain and France gave the Fascists every feasible chance for a peaceful solution. But they proved that they would never have enough. The Allies had officially guaranteed Poland aswell, Hitler has to bear full responsibility for the war.

>ok we defeated Poland
>Can we ally with Polish Nationalists and establish a puppet state, or at least Protectorate? LOL no, let's make a have colonial General Government to unite them against us ;)
>Ok we invaded Russia
>Will we make a puppet Russian army made of captured POWs? Nein, send them to auschwitz instead ;)
>Seems like many of them still like us, because Stalin was worse, let's murder them and burn villages to show them where they belong ;)

Pretty much this.

If not for the genocidal policy towards the Slavs, they would have enormous manpower against Soviet Union.

>ok we defeated Poland
>Can we ally with Polish Nationalists?

>OK, we defeated someone, can we utilize their hate against us and ally them?

>Soviets were planning on spreading communism and taking over the entire European continent.
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>A fascist can never be human.
We can mate and produce fertile offspring with fascists, therefore they're human.

Not him, but that was the case with France.
[spoiler]Which is a completely different case since nationalists loathed the Popular Front with a passion and were happy for the downfall of the Third Republic[/spoiler]

Grandpa's cousin fought in Stalingrad and survived. He died like 10 years ago and my mom and grandma went to his funeral. He had a bunch of old Germans there who poured some dirt from Stalingrad into his grave and did a bunch of Hitler salutes. Must have been a fun event desu

the only tragedy of the Battle of Stalingrad is that 6000 Nazi pigs survived, you ugly fuckin boxer kraut. Go back to /pol/ you loser.

whataboutism - also worth noting that Soviet rapes and looting was on a much smaller scale due to a command hierarchy that wasn't directly incentivized from the top down to commit atrocities in a literal war of extermination

Brainwashed commie. The nazis weren't worse than anyone else in the war

Which side did he fight for?

>hurr durr industrialized genocide is the same as work camps

galaxy brain

The eternal hun strikes again

Fucking nazis still haunting him even after his death

>I doubt Germany would have had such a negative effect on the world like the Soviets did.
Germans planned to exterminate whole nations, Soviets didn't have such plans.
5 years of German rule brought more deaths to Poles than 50 years of Soviet rule

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country

6000 men survived ?
Damn the Soviets are really forgiving i would have killed all of those german niggers

>In this thread we honor the dead heroes of the Wehrmacht.

No we don't they were monsters and deserved to die a horrible death.

Greetings from germany.

Alerta alerta anti-lollista

>Germany
>heroes

I can't.

That feel when no fascist gf ;_;

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I agree, holodomor was a tragedy.

Now back to leftycuck go.

Tanned German detected.

This

Why are you associating Nazi casualties with the West German flag?

And why are you using that fucking flag at all when Austria is still a separate country from Germany?

You are probably not aware but Poles still had people who worked or served for AustroHungary and Germany(the Prussian one).
The conservative circle tried contact Germans after polish defeat to negotiate some sort of autonomy or limited self rule or actually anything. Instead Germans responded with arrests and extermination of elites.
They suddenly woke up in 43 where they try to rally Poles to fight Soviets. Hilarity ensues.
Thing is its not a first time when its happen.
In first war the were strong pro AustroHungary camp and even Poles siding with Russians but there were political options with Germany because they were offering nothing alongside very vague promises.
That is why I laugh at people who tell that Poland should ally with Germany before II WW.
Its not like Poles do not want its just Germans would not offer anything of value and leave nothing for Poles.

>they were NOT political options siding with Germans
Fixed.

>You are probably not aware but Poles still had people who worked or served for AustroHungary and Germany(the Prussian one).

Yes, but he was talking about "Nationalists", not the ones willing to collaborate.

Open for discussion if the nazis or the soviets faught in the cause of evil.
12 year old anglo larper. go to protest some college prof while wearing pads you freak.

Russia was being cleansed before that and during the war from actual russian christians.
That all you /his people dont know a single bit about the soviet killing machine is amazing to me.
Soviets and Nazis were both pure evil in wartimes.

They were not willing to collaborate for personal gain but looking for some sort of deal with Germans that would make life of Polish population better under German occupation. They have connections with main parties and even with the polish government.
Germans do not even want to talk. They want it all and they want it now.

the shit you say man. Soviets had plenty of industrialized killing operations for "enemies of the state"

How fucking uneducated are you?
Even the infamous gassing van was used by them.

Again, "Nationalists", by definition in this case, do not wish for "some sort of deal". They want independence or bust.

In seeing alone what flag you chose for this thread tells me that you are a fucking retard.

They were also realist.
You get Polish nationalist that would want independence but if this is not possible autonomy is good too and if this not that even rights to polish education and rights for polish citizens are great.
They were not idiots.
There were polish nationalists who bet on Russia in I WW and where independence was their dream they have more realistic approach like autonomic state in Russian Empire(similar status to Finland) with polish language and culture preserved.
Your definition of 'nationalist' is lacking. I think you mean more like idiots or something.

>amerifats will never understand eastern euro realism/pessimism

They probably never read Dostojevsky.

Hmmm.

You do realise the same thing can be done for the soviets ? Like for real. Im german and not even a naziboo but you non german and non russians who talk like they know shit is infuriating to me.

Nope.

Again, once they start dealing with Germans they stop being "Nationalists". Nationalist by definition in this case would be people fighting against foreign opressors for the case of independent Poland. Whatever you choose to call them brave or idiots is entirely up to your ideology.

Are you a idiot or a burger?
Making your own definition of words not make you smart or good at discussion.

"My own definitions"?

>dictionary.com/browse/nationalist
>a member of a political group advocating or fighting for national independence, a strong national government, etc.

Well then, explain to me why, of all Polish people, would it be the nationalists who would collaborate with Germans.

Let's take a moment to appreciate that Germany sacrificed its best to protect from communism. Without them, Stalin would have steamrolled the old continent.

F

It still boggles my mind the Germans are seen as evil fascists because they tried to extinguish communism while the americans did the exact same thing the moment WWII ended

board meme

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Oh boy
A remembrance thread on Veeky Forums
How proud they would be

>Fucking degenerate

And I don't even like anything about the Nazis, except maybe their uniforms if they used faux leather

>Naked commie scum fried in chemical fire of justice - blackandwhite

Maybe seen a doctor, heard Dr. Mengele has some revolutionary ideas. Though America has continued some.

>America is seen as an hero nation for anything they did except (helped) defeating Germany.

Big fucking thanks for making Russians conquer half of Europe.