>An Australian woman who intended to prove that “vegans can do anything and more” died Friday while attempting to scale Mount Everest, the highest mountain on Earth.
>Maria Strydom, a 34-year-old Monash Business School finance lecturer, made it roughly 400 meters shy of the summit when she began suffering from altitude sickness and died while attempting to descend.
>“She could not resist any more her weakness, and she stopped breathing right there,” said Furtengi Sherpa, the operational manager of Seven Summit Treks.
>In an interview published on March 2 on the Monash Business School website, Strydom said that she and her husband, who both are accomplished climbers who consume neither meat nor dairy, together set their sights on Everest after doubts were raised by skeptics due to possible iron and protein deficiencies caused by their diets.
>“It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak,” she told the website. “By climbing the seven summits, we want to prove that vegans can do anything and more.”
>if she was deficient in b12, this may have made her more susceptible to altitude sickness
If she ate meat and was deficient in b12, would her meat diet have caused her death? If it was a meat eating climber (many of which have died on Everest and other similar climbs), would you expect people to report "animal fat and lack of vegetables can restrict bloodflow, so their meat-based diet may have contributed to their death"?
Lucas Richardson
Funny that. First it was all about her diet choices, but now ofc suddenly wasn't.
Landon Bell
Ironically, they link a "related article" that leads to this
34 year old woman has a stroke. If they said "34 year old meat eater has a stroke" and hypothesized about how her diet may have caused the stroke, you'd have a huge problem with it.
Benjamin Hughes
Iron deficiency causes low hemoglobin count, which means less oxygen transported to cells and tissues. The vegan woman died due to lack of oxygen in her brain (altitude sickness).
Very non-speculative article.
Jeremiah White
she should've eaten more pumpkin seeds.
problem solved.
Nicholas Mitchell
It's completely speculative. There's no indication that she had B12 deficiency or even iron deficiency anemia, and altitude sickness isn't even related to these things to begin with.
"It is hard to determine who will be affected by altitude sickness, as there are no specific factors that correlate with a susceptibility to altitude sickness."
Ryder Jones
She did. And she tried to prove vegans aren't weak. And she died.
>Putting aside the fact that he did it on a plant-based diet, he broke Guinness records and made history since no other man in sports and alpine history can boast with an achievement like that – climbing 6 of the world’s highest peaks in less than 24 months
Dominic Cruz
>thinking B12 deficiency is the same as iron deficiency
Fucking dropped. She probably had both anyway.
Jason Brooks
>Gropel, alive but fighting a fluid buildup in his lungs
The article guessed B12 deficiency, you guessed iron deficiency. I responded to both. Both arguments are just "I bet she had this problem and I bet it's her diet's fault" with no evidence that she had any underlying medical condition or deficiency. And this is for altitude sickness, something not even related to those things.
Benjamin Green
Wrong guy
Brandon Anderson
But that's probably due to the harsh conditions of the climb, isn't it?
James Baker
This. Just look at her face, she clearly wasn't properly supplementing her diet properly. The dark bags around her eyes, the general lack of elasticity of the skin, she also has clearly been avoiding supplementing vitamin D, instead she seems to have fucked her skin up by getting burned into a coon. >inb4 shitstorm I'm not saying that her being vegan caused these symptoms, I'm saying she clearly didn't have anyone helping her with her diet and making sure she had adequate intake of micronutrients. The thing is, you don't need to watch your diet quite as closely if you ate omnivorously, because those vitamins and minerals not present in high quantities in vegetables and fruit are found in high concentrations in meat.
Gavin Turner
I hate vegans with a passion but think of how many non vegans have died climbing mt everest. If she hasn't of been trying to make a point that vegans can do anything it would have been a tragic story of a young woman dieing on top of a mountain.
Julian Gomez
>And this is for altitude sickness, something not even related to those things.
>How can altitude sickness be prevented? Individuals at risk for developing low levels of oxygen in the blood (anemia) should ask their doctor about taking an iron supplement to help maintain blood oxygen levels.
>Furthermore, it is hard to determine who will be affected by altitude sickness, as there are no specific factors that correlate with a susceptibility to AMS. Anyone who travels to altitudes of over 2500m or 8,000ft is at risk of acute mountain sickness. Normally it doesn’t become noticeable until you have been at that altitude for a few hours. Part of the mystery of acute mountain sickness is that it is difficult to predict who will be affected. It is not uncommon to hear stories of young athletic individuals being badly limited by symptoms of AMS while older members doing the same activity have felt fine. Do NOT be fooled by AMS or take it lightly. The dangers of this illness can be severe and every year people die of this physiological derangement when left unrecognized and untreated as AMS can progress to the potentially fatal high altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE) or high altitude cerebral edema (HACE).
Parker Evans
She looks like an average mid-30s woman. She's just not amazingly attractive.
Camden Edwards
>The thing is, you don't need to watch your diet quite as closely if you ate omnivorously, because those vitamins and minerals not present in high quantities in vegetables and fruit are found in high concentrations in meat.
No, you just need to watch for different nutrients. Omnivores are more likely to be deficient in things like potassium, fiber, magnesium, and vitamin E, and have to pay extra attention to not get too much unhealthy stuff from meat.
>experienced climbers who have tackled similar climbs >do everst to prove a point >prove opposing point >NO THEY WEREN'T PREPARED, NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A RETARDED VEGAN fuck off m8
Samuel Cox
notice vegans have no defense or bother covering the story vegans and femanazis go hand and hand
Aaron Young
defense to what? somebody died doing something dangerous, you fucktard
Tyler Hall
>somebody died doing something dangerous because they were vegan, you fucktard ftfy.
Thomas Collins
does it say that it was because she was vegan?
Ryan Diaz
Can vegans do anything without it being a means to tell everyone they're vegan?
Justin Lee
When she made it about being vegan
Joseph Lewis
What are you talking about? She said something about veganism before doing something dangerous and then she died because she did a dangerous thing
Why would vegans have to defend themselves?
Daniel Cruz
Because it gives them an excuse to talk about being a vegan.
Alexander Edwards
Is this literally the only joke/thing you have about vegans?
Samuel Lee
so you're saying her being a vegan had nothing to do with it? At the very least, her trying to prove a point killed her, so yes, it was because she was a vegan.
Jonathan Morgan
Eat shit reddit
Colton Ortiz
I can't say, but I'm a Marine that does crossfit and I make it a point to tell everyone that I'm a Marine first, and a crossfitter second.
William Morris
Even if it were due to that (although that is complete speculation, as you obviously couldn't know what she would be like/what she would have done were she not vegan), why would that be a thing that vegans would have to defend?
and in terms of her medical cause of death, I'm saying that there is no reason whatsoever to conclude that it was due to veganism.
Isaac Johnson
>>somebody died doing something dangerous because they were vegan, you fucktard Are you saying that she wouldn't have died on Everest if she ate meat? OR Are you saying that if she wasn't trying to prove a point, she wouldn't be on Everest in the first place, and so she wouldn't have died on Everest?
The first interpretation of your statement is simply stupid because people die on Everest all the fucking time and the vast majority (lets say "all") of them ate meat.
The second interpretation of your statement is arguable though it clearly has nothing at all to do with veganism in it's own right - meaning that she just as easily could have died on Everest if she was trying to prove a point about absolutely anything at all and just as well could have died.
>A woman was rescued from Britain’s highest mountain after attempting an ascent while wearing summer clothes and carrying just a selfie stick, according to reports.
>Sara Albone, 28, became disoriented and began to develop hypothermia after being caught in blizzard conditions while wearing shorts and trainers on Ben Nevis, it is understood.
>She was found by chance while lost on the north face of the 4,400ft peak, in Scotland’s Grampian mountains, where several climbers have been killed in recent months.
>Albone, from Brighton, issued an apology and thanked the team that had to walk her off the mountain when cloud and driving rain made her unreachable by helicopter, the Daily Mail reported.
Noah Brooks
wtf
Nathaniel Wright
>Even if it were due to that (although that is complete speculation, as you obviously couldn't know what she would be like/what she would have done were she not vegan), why would that be a thing that vegans would have to defend? Nice smoke screen there buddy. I like how you moved the goalpost too. She died because she was a vegan, one way or another.
Julian Turner
What smokescreen
You're saying that if she weren't vegan, she wouldn't have climed mt. everest. But there are plenty of non-vegans who have climbed it.
How can you say that she wouldn't have been one of them were she not a vegan?
Jordan Cruz
And I didn't move the goalposts I was initially responding to this post
Xavier Johnson
>How can you say that she wouldn't have been one of them were she not a vegan? i don't have to because she was a vegan, she claimed she was gonna climb everst to prove vegans can, and died because of it. There is no changing that and playing the hypothetical game is stupid
move them again, I don't care
Nathaniel Nelson
I think you just have a poor understanding of what it is that makes someone want to climb Mt. Everest. Hint: it's not veganism (I can tell you this a vegan who does not wish to climb mt everest).
I imagine what actually caused her to want to climb mt everest is an aspect of her personality more fundamental than that.
interesting article. God doesn't even want vegans on everst and even if one did, they literally can't call themselves a vegan.
Benjamin Harris
You understand that many experienced climbers have died on Everest, right? They don't even let you on the mountain if you don't have experience.
Kevin Gonzalez
yeah, keep moving the goalpost, that's definitely working for you.
>I think you just have a poor understanding of what it is that makes someone want to climb Mt. Everest. that may be the case, but as far as this chick goes, according to the article (and her words) she did it to prove vegans can.
Brandon Richardson
And you keep talking about moving goal posts that's going well too
Sebastian Barnes
there you, the further the better.
Anthony Powell
he was able to do it this year, but not as a vegan
>The main issue, he said, was finding clothing and equipment that was suitable for vegans - he said he was unable to find an alternative to the down jacket needed at the highest altitudes.
Juan Anderson
I didn't realize you could flip being vegan off and on like a light switch.
As I'm currently not eating anything and wearing a 100% cotton shirt with denim jeans, am I presently a vegan? As long as I'm not in the midst of eating a rack of lamb while doing activity X, I can say I'm a vegan Xer?
Jose Cook
what?
begin vegan certainly isn't immutable, if that's what you're confused about.
Nicholas Campbell
I didn't know you could be a vegan conditionally. Good to know. Time to buy those leather flip flops I wanted.
Chase Richardson
vegan is just a word; you can be whatever you want
if you want leather flip flops, you can buy them, as always
Ryan Morales
>Time to buy those leather flip flops I wanted. shit, my bad, I mean I need to live.
Joseph Moore
>vegan is just a word breh, what kind of retarded defense is this?
>nah man, I'm still a vegan, me eating steak has nothing to do with it.
Evan Thompson
it's not a defense. it's an explanation. you can say you're still vegan as you eat a steak. most people would understand that to be as untrue.
in the end, it doesn't matter if you're "vegan" or not. what matters is what you do. whether what you do entitles you to be called "vegan" or not is totally irrelevant to almost everything.
Michael Fisher
nah, I'm not buying it. It's not a word. If you claim to be a vegan and are living a vegan lifestyle, there are certain implications that go with that. If you're a vegan and you start eating steaks, you're not a vegan anymore. If you climb mt everst with a down jacket, you didn't climb mt everst as a vegan.
Jason Edwards
words have meanings
or implications if you like
that is sort of their thing
Gabriel Allen
that is some crazy mental gymnastics you're trying to do.
Matthew Cruz
lol what? you are asking if you can be vegan and do X. I'm telling you that's a pointless question to ask. are you simply asking what words mean?
or are you asking if you can get that sweet vegan feel? what are you wondering?
Leo Wilson
She looked like absolute shit at 34. More like 44.
Justin Cooper
Her eyes look dead, like her brain is broken. Like somebody on a fuckload of antipsychotics.
She doesn't look all there. She looks washed out like somebody who's had a speed habit for many years.
Isaiah Moore
She didn't die on everest from an avalanche. She died because her body couldn't handle the conditions. If Zyzz weren't on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't have died in that sauna either.
Jaxson Cooper
But she died on every trying to prove she could as a vegan, so it doesn't matter what she could have or wouldn't have done, this is what happened. Her vegan ideology killed her.
Landon Martin
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Evan Bell
the dead bodies of approximately 200 people lie on Mt Everest
Julian Jenkins
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Brayden Martin
True fact: they were all vegans.
Connor Price
...
Mason Butler
>dying from altitude sickness
Carson Jones
obviously
Ayden Hughes
Surprised they're not preserved.
Wyatt Gomez
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Matthew Myers
Someone fucked him in the butt.
Carson Richardson
some have been there for many years
this one since 1924
Joshua Watson
2bh she looks really unhealthy her skin colour lookes weird like if she was an ex heroin addict or something or must be because of her vegan diet :p
