What is beauty? Why does this notion exist in our brains at all, instead of nothing...

What is beauty? Why does this notion exist in our brains at all, instead of nothing? I'm trying to grasp this abstract concept. Can you explain what it means to you personally?

I always think about that, yes, i think

I also want to know the answer to this question. By default I assume that beauty is an imaginary concept in a world of imaginary concepts, but it would be good to know how it became.

It's what the basic levels of your consciousness are attracted to.

Order, fertile women, peace, clean things. It's not a concept, it's just too basic a desire for your conscious mind to grasp, you feel it but it is much older and more than your ability to think critically about things. Beauty was meant to draw you to it to help you survive as disgust was mean to push you away from it for the same reason.

People get lost in imagining it is something abstract and above us when really it is beyond us because it is so elementary we cannot properly conceive it.

this. Beauty is not beauty, but an assumption of the natural instinct (the person needs to reproduce so it finds the best person of the opposite gender).

strength and health = best possible mate for reproduction
strength and health = beauty

I was thinking that it might be related to romance/reproduction. However, there are many things that inspires beauty outside of females. Is it just a desire to want something? I associate beauty with aesthetic pleasability or interest. Why does a human need that ability, rather than an unblinking insect mind that can accept anything?

It is a basic drive.

As a child you likely didn't find women beautiful, as you reached maturity you very likely did. It is an evolutionary method of driving you towards the goal you need to achieve to succeed in this world.

The fun thing to think about is what would you be without any of these? If I extracted just your conscious mind without the underlying drives what would you be? What would you do? What would you want to do? If I put your conscious mind in a dell desktop tomorrow what would happen? I think you would do what most people do all day long, kill time until your basic drives kick in and force you into meaningful action, but without those basic drives you would just shitpost on Veeky Forums for all eternity.

I find Classical sculpture beautiful, how do you explain that?

Being able to build good shit was useful.

Who knew.

>As a child you likely didn't find women beautiful, as you reached maturity you very likely did.
There was a study that showed that babies stared longer at faces adults rates as beautiful.

Beauty is what the Jews want to destroy.

Traits genetically associated with fertility plus women who share traits of the common women your ethnicity comes from. Of course, this can be skewed by constant exposure to make up ads and the like.

Perhaps a precursor to the desire which would only fully manifest when reaching sexual maturity.

I recall being very young and wanting to be around much older pretty girls. I had no concept of why. As with everything at that age you run on instinct, not logic.

epic post my White brother! praise kek shadilay!

At a more basic level, humans are pattern recognizers. All of human evolution has culminated to us specializing in pattern recognition. That's what lets us build useful patterns, like letters and math. It's how we learn to use tools and anticipate the laws of physics working every time.

Symmetry, composition, contrast, and convention all add to our perceptions of something (or someone) being "beautiful". There's a thousand other things that build it, but it's all based on patterns.

If patterns were not useful we would not give a fuck about them. Most of the things that tried to eat us had a pattern.

Physics, math, and whatever else that contributes to was pure chance. If it was not immediately useful to survive it was not a trait which was born from the crucible of prehistory.

For me, beauty is a sensory goodness with some degree of complexity. Usually but not necessarily visual. Sometimes it's biologically caused goodness like a beautiful woman, and sometimes it doesn't seem as rooted in biology, like blue skies or a sunset or aesthetic plants. The beautiful also is preeminent: it seems irreducible and obvious when a thing is beautiful.

It's an intrinsic good. There is always subjectivity but one cannot deny that beauty is a pure and benevolent quality that only exists to improve people's lives. To bring beauty into the world is an act of love and one of the highest, most noble pursuits beyond protecting and advancing your kin, adhering to honour and alleviating suffering.

There is truth to this. Jews are so incredibly bitter at the European gentiles, and this combines with their religious sensibilities and philosophy to actually create a sense of resentment towards what we Europeans call the pursuit of beauty, especially in the "classical" sense.

Few people are aware of this, but Jews actually despise the human form, in the way Islam preaches modesty and disdains depictions of the prophet. Practising Jewish women wear realistic wigs to cover their human hair, and adorn themselves in shapeless, formless clothing. The men eschew complex and bright designs, especially Orthodox who wear black and white.

Jews are the top buyers of modern art and often are themselves the artists making so called "ugly" pieces, paint daubs and putrid colours in abstract shapes. These forms are inherently Jewish, as you would be hard pressed to find a Jewish fine artist painting beautiful women (non pornographic at least), or genuinely striving for the Golden pursuit of Beauty, as seen in the gentile Age of Beauty art movement.

It's true that they are rootless cosmpolitans as often described - many Jews describe feeling alienated and out of place in nations with a lot of traditional European architecture, and Jews would feel no connection to the creation myth and beauty of the blonde Venus in Botticelli's painting of that Roman goddess, so they don't fund these museums and architecture.

There is also the very Jewish scam side of art (yes, goy, these blank daubed canvases are worth 6 gorillion tax free), where objectively "ugly for the sake of ugliness" post modern, nihilistic and meaningless art sells for ridiculous amounts compared to classical and antiquity art from European masters and tradition.

Proof Jews hate beauty? Find me a Jewish classical master painter. Jews typically have a tiny working class and lots of capital to spend pursuing something like painting and filmmaking (((Hollywood))) so if they loved beauty, it should be easy.

Explain the existence of scat porn then

g*rmans are weird

Pic unrelated I guess

Would our modern beauty standards translate at all? Say you showed someone from the 1700s, 1200s, 400s, etc. pictures of (for lack of anyone better) Taylor Swift done up like normal. Would these hypothetical people find her attractive or beautiful as we do today?

>Proof Jews hate beauty?
Are we talking purely on a physical level? I think Jews have produced some beautiful stuff but it's mainly in things like music (composers like Mendelssohn for instance). Physical/visual beauty though you're right.

Girl on left is objectively beautiful

Yes though she's a bad example.

>What is beauty?
Beauty is symmetry.

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There are no great Jewish composers. There's Mendelsohn, but he was Christian and not really of the same caliber as the greats like Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. I think he saw how jews hated beauty and wanted nothing to do with his repugnant heritage.

There is Arnold Schoenberg. However, he made atonality and modern art in music more popular, so you could argue whether he was "beautiful", or not.

like all fetishes, it's the product of a diseased mind

What about the sensation of comfyness, or the effect music has on us?

Or the fact that an aesthetic of something can give you the chills or awe you. I think it's a bit more complicated than what you're saying.

Boring.

If you ask me, it started with the biological drive to procreate, in our primate ancestors. Then, when our cortex inflated because of natural and sexual selection, the concept of beauty gets abstracted beyond our mere biological roots.

You can see it quite clearly in paganistic ritual and culture, where nature is feminine by default, and valleys, the sea, mountains and all other natural phenomena are also described as beautiful, which makes sense given that what started the whole thing is the male human's attraction to the female human.

The same thing continues to be developed in the male mind to such a degree that symmetry and order in art becomes conflated with the female figure.

Beauty is quite clearly inseparable from the body and sex.

we are innately attracted to some things and we come to associate other stimuli with this attraction

Watching another man have sex with your wife is quite intelligent and beautiful.