What would National Socialist Germany look like if Hitler stopped after annexing Sudetenland?

What would National Socialist Germany look like if Hitler stopped after annexing Sudetenland?

In other words, if allowed a longer period of time beyond 1933-1939, how would the policies of Hitler and the NSDAP affect peacetime German society in the long term?

three way cold war

The economy would probably implode in a way that'd make Black Thursday look like a nice day at the seaside

would be Iran tier

Only if they didn't totally demobilize. A Demobilized Germany with a cooled down economy could and would have functioned. This however was never the plan for Germany. The endgoal was Lebensraum and Sudetenland, the annexation of Czekoslovakia and even the Danzig corridor was only steppingstones towards this goal.

>free from ZOG
>free from cancerous SJWism (see above)
>aryan
>nationalist

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you know nothing of Iran?

t. directionless 22 year old NEET

It was too late by 1938, their debt was already unsustainably high and they had nothing to show for all that spending except for an army that would provide no financial return (unless they started looting their neighbors, which is what they did).

>Hitler stopped after annexing Sudetenland?

Can we do a more realistic scenario after annexation of Czechoslovakia? Whole point of annexing Sudetland was to annex the rest of the country.

If they stopped after taking the rest of the Czech lands they might have survived. They might have been hurt financially for a time but that happens for everyone after a demobilization.

>22
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Sure, why not? If it means you may answer it. The whole question is simply to ask how a peacetime Germany under the NSDAP would function if the outbreak of WW2 never happened or at least was delayed enough to have a wider span of time to look at the long term effects of peacetime governance under Hitler.

>complete demobilization
Yeah, because that worked out so well the last time

>war reparations
>social welfare for veterans
>removal of important industry
>social upheaval
>15% of the young population killed off
Yes, excellent comparison

>They might have been hurt financially for a time
Quite a bit an understatement when nearly 75% of their growth between 1935-38 was due to rearmament

>ride the rearmament wave
>fellate the general staff like crazy to get them aboard
>Good run, guys, but we'll just stop here, you can all go home now.
Hitler would have probably been out of office rather fast if had just decided to demobilize again

>Good run, guys, but we'll just stop here, you can all go home now.
This was what financial advisors begged for directly after the Czech annexation. Who knows what would've happened.

>financial advisors
But not the military brass

>I post Nazi what if scenarios

it would be a massive country with a massive economy but eventualy it would all turn into a continuous festival of glorified stagnation

sure they would think up all sorts of zany shit to ''power the technology'' and whatever but realy without acces to cheap oil they are fucked, and that was half the reason for the war, and thats why there would have been a war even without the nazis, nazis just added their share of morbid resentment

the only way out would be to team up with either soviets or brittish and form some economic/military union and so get oil

Nor Hitler or his cronies, which renders the question moot really.

This, there would need to be some giant transition to peacetime economy.

Now that could have been interesting.

So if Hitler stops as sudetenland that means limited militirisation and transition into a functioning peacetime economy. Economically Germany would've been a position to prosper as the world's 3rd Industrial power.

>three way cold war
I thought the whole reason why the cold war happened in the first place was because of the increased projection of Soviet power and Communism built on the corpse of the Axis powers?

How could the USSR project the same kind of global threat that it did if it didn't have the power and mobilization that it had as a direct cause of WW2?

Also, how could the USA/NATO project power/be created in the first place if it wasn't for the increased global influence it had in the aftermath of WW2 also? It seems that the conditions of the Cold War were as a result of the growing tensions of the only two remaining global forces in the world.

Could it be fair to say that there wouldn't even be a Cold War if elements like the NSDAP, Italian Fascists, Kuomintang, and Japanese Empire continued putting up a bulwark against the spread of Communism? Or that these same "Fascist" national forces would not ally themselves with Western Democracies for the sake of fighting off the spread of Communism? We see plenty of examples of Capitalist western democracies supporting authoritarian anti-communist right wing dictatorships for the sake of suppressing Communism, why wouldn't America and Britain do the same for Germany if it refrained from invading Poland and France?

Germany's economy was doomed to fail without plunder.

t.

Did you just admit to being underage on Veeky Forums?

>plunder
Plunder what, exactly? What is this, the Migration Period? I don't think the German Economy could be held up by booty taken from Russian barns and French vineyards.

It only overheated because Hitler listened to Goring instead of Hjalmar Schacht. They would've got the Sudetenland either way.

Part of the cohort of "redpilled" white males in High School whose socialization comes in the form of video game shit talking and ifunny memes. Clever or otherwise.

Perfect

You'd be surprised what you could get from French vineyards.

would've probably joined the rest of europe in a fight against communism

Dat Danzig corridor tho

Germany looks stupid with it.

Why not have Konigsberg be its own state or subsume it into Poland or Russia or something? Unlike having an Anschluss with the close-by state of Austria, it only causes geographic problems for it to be part of the German state, with the Danzig issue being the most prominent.

Prussian autism, I suppose.

Well, except for NA

>just give up your land, the maps look better that way

>just make this adjustment in your borders for the sake of region stability
Been done many times desu

USA would end up at war with Japan regardless of German ambition in Europe.
USA doesn't really need Nato to project power.

In this scenario we'd have 3 smaller power blocks instead of two huge ones.

>adjustment
>region stability
Stop fucking sanitizing border disputes

Sanitized border readjustment is both possible and has been done before. It just requires a lot of negotiation and holistic foresight in order for it not to be disastrous. It can happen in a very civilized way, or it can happen quite catastrophically, but either of them are possible.

because you're ignoring the Czech factories and Austrian gold too, among other things

Didn't Hitler take a lot of debt and thus he was pretty much obliged to make war?
I guess this is a good post to ask for book recommendations on Germany's economic revival in the interwar period, since I don't know shit about it.

He did, and war was the best way to realize the investments made. No war wouldn't necessarily mean collapse, but a significant shift in the economy from large-scale rearmament to consumer-oriented production that could cause serious unemployment and uncertainty.

Now this is podracing

That's not an Iranian.

>German Danzig
>Polish still have Baltic port and also get a Black sea port
This is genius. I fail to see the problem.

That was Hitler's offer to Poland before relations soured.

Baltics don't get to pretend they are real nations.

wait a minute. Is this picture LITERALLY supposed to be a reference to the last supper? in traditional medieval iconography Judas sits on the opposite side of the table from the other apostles and also puts a hand squarely on the table when jesus says the man who does that will betray him. Is the painter syaing that G*rmany is the Judas of Europe?

also notice how there's 12 people on the other side (or possibly 11 as there is one half way in the frame, making it ambiguous whether christ is present or not?). pic related for reference

bullshit it was

because there were still mostly germans living there? and the corridor was mostly german too.

>how would the policies of Hitler and the NSDAP affect peacetime German society in the long term
>Germany, return denbts
[COLLAPSES]

VILNIUS BELONGS TO LITHUANIA

Looks even worse with Czechia desu. I actually started playing Germany on HoI4 with the goal of peaceful growth only to give up after being granted Czechia and Gdansk because my country looked like a tailed tumor. Absolutely disgusting. I kind of understand Hitler now. If he didn't annex most of Poland along with Gdansk, Germany would just have invited ridicule due to how stupid it looked.

what did you wanted to do?

I was interested what would happen if Germany didn't start the war. I had alternative history turned on.

>because there were still mostly germans living there?
Wrong.
>and the corridor was mostly german too.
Wrong.

>Wrong
>less than half the segments of eastern Prussia have a polish majority, according to pic related
Congratulations, you played yourself

What about the corridor? You went full retard with that one.

>You went full retard with that one.
I'm not the guy who talked about the corridor.

I think the continued existence of Germany at best would've been a destabilizing influence on the western powers. This was a time when the US was in the middle of the great depression and both fascism and communism was seen as a way to get society back on the right track. It was only because of the war did the economy get back on track as production ramped up and the war allowed public opinion to shift against the two ideologies. I'm sure Britain being at war with Germany had the same effect of naturally pushing people away from fascist policies.

So I doubt we'd really see a three way cold war, but the whole planet would be a powder keg of internal turmoil at this point without war to redirect people's focus away from inside issues. Germany would have to somehow right its overheated economy, the US would continue to struggle in the great depression, and Stalin would have to figure out what to do about a huge force of dissidents without an enemy to naturally cull them.

nice map you have there
>no exact date, spans two decades instead
>no source

Corridor was ethnically Polish, Germans were a tiny minority there. Just because they like to shitpost themselves all over Europe doesn't make them majority.

>look Hans, 12% of that territory is Germans, therefore they're majority there!111

Me and my one buddy liked to go out to the bar, and see who could make up the craziest war story and still get laid.
I had some gems but my buddy ultimately won.

He told a girl that the Taliban trained alligators to fight us and we werent allowed to kill them because we could not harm the local wildlife.
He called them Talligators.
Fucking Talligators got him laid.

OOPS wrong thread lol

Even the Prussian census in 1910 found more Poles than Germans in the corridor even though they under-counted Poles

I Respectfully disagree: Who would be the 3rd Powerblock? Germany? With France and England still in the picture? With the clusterfuck of political instability that was Europe? At that time there was constantly some sort of war or civil war going on somewhere on the continent. I also think it would be hard to have a coldwaresque situation of constant confrontation an the everlooming threat of military anihilation if you are separated by oceans and /or a series of unstable yet independent eastern european buffer states.

*teleports behind you*
*unsheathes ethnic Germans*
Psssh... nicht personliches... Pole

not trying to support the G*rms here, but arent those "Poles" in G*rman part of Prussia race traitors - Mazovians?

>race traitors
cringe

shut up Kraut

racists are weird.

But they had Romania and Bessarabia, plus they could do some trade deals with Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

The amount of oil they needed was to fund a world war, but Germany had oil fields and so did Austria, granted they were very minor.

if a jew betrays other jews to auschwitz, what is he

an asshole?
really really stupid and short sighted?
some sort of hyperbolous analogy that makes sense in your head?

Probably half anglo

he is a lot of things but technically he is a race traitor too

The cringy bit was the part about the race, not about the treason. I think I know where this is going. I see that I have no further business here. :^)

>French vineyards

Are you retarded? France and Czechoslovakia contributed the most to the German War machine.

Britain and German mini cold war possibly going hot anyway. The threat of industrialized Germany to British naval power was too great, as well as just threatening German economic dominance in Europe. Preventing a unified Europe was British foreign policy 101

very good observation, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it, but good observation regardless.
unfortunately, this will be ignored because Veeky Forums is retarded

Soros

this would unironically have been the ideal German-Polish border.
Poland would get Gdingen/Gdynia as a harbor exclave and free right of passage down the vistula river.

The new Province of West Prussia-Posen could also be given a special status, with special minority rights for the polish populace (and, of course, laws anti-polish laws being repealed nationwide and the political approach being shifted from forced germanisation to coexistance/voluntary assimilation)

>perfect
>belgium exists

we already had a 2.5 way cold war though.

it would have collapsed in on itself cause its economy would be able to sustain itself save for violating everything in the treaty of versailles. the french would get butt mad and eventually fight Germany with or without the British and probably drag the whole world into a world conflict.