Read some history

>read some history
>realize it has already happened

There's not a specific definition agreed upon by everyone (and many people use the word pejoratively) but I consider myself a neoliberal insofar as I believe free trade, freedom of markets and pragmatism to be enablers of prosperity to world economies.

No, you need to kill yourself.

How about an actual working ideology, sweetie? You've read propaganda that has brainwashed you.

Read up on the wonders of neoliberalism.

>Ideological salads

>read history
>become socialist

>read history
>become a crypto-fascist

>study marxism and soviet hhistory and maoism
>unironically believe Pinochet did nothing wrong when he threw them out of helicopters

Also, speaking to them online and in real life as well. You start to realize after a while they they arent a political ideology as much as they are suicidal islamist with some deep rooted psychological problems

>he is a proponent of an ideology that is basically a giant pyramid scheme, draining the wealth from the bottom and channeling it towards the top
>he advocates for "free markets" which in neoliberal sense means rampant corporatism, political bribery, cronyism and consumer fucking
>he enjoys endless financial crises
>he enjoys having giant financial institutions that have more power than countries
>he likes to have his planet polluted to shit so he can buy a shoe for 5$ less
>he likes to have his national politics ve reduced to "muh growth muh economy" arguments that don't consider any implications for the average Joe
>he thinks "muh delusuon of eternal growth" doesn't mean "this corporation paid me, thus I'm doing their biddong"

>read modern history and news
>become anti-libercucks for life

>I consider myself a neoliberal insofar as I believe white ollar crime, financial crises and wealth inequality to be enablers of prosperity for the few thousand ultra rich.
FTFY

What's a better alternative?

Reminder that neo-liberal globalism is an unsustainable utopian meme. I dont give a shit about any dumbass stormfag conspiracy about jews or white genocide. This entire thing is predicated on the idea that an influx of immigrants will counter act the declining birth rates of the west, and fill in the gaps in our work force, which will save our economy, thus making it possible for the government to continue funding medicaid for paw paw. But the big fucking problem is that non of these faggots work. In fact, they not only just not work, they actually gobble up MORE government entitlements, only speeding up the decline. So now, we have even MORE people to take care of who dont work. So at the very core of this idea, its complete bullshit.

nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/19/german-economy-immigration/

>out of all the recent refugees to Germany, only 2% are employed

bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/fluechtling/nur-jeder-50te-findet-einen-job-43786808.bild.html

>2/3rds of them cant even read or write, making them basically worthless to the economy

zeit.de/2015/47/integration-fluechtlinge-schule-bildung-herausforderung

>Germany companies are saying how these refugees are unemployable retards as well

faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/unternehmen/mittelstand-als-hoffnungstraeger-fuer-fluechtlinge-14323607.html

so of course, they are all on gbsmedats now

businessinsider.com/r-number-of-migrants-claiming-benefits-in-germany-surges-by-169-percent-2016-9

>Germany spent 20 BILLION euros on migrants in 2016 alone

dw.com/en/germany-spent-20-billion-euros-on-refugees-in-2016/a-38963299

all this will lead to is a world wide ghetto ruled over with an authoritarian police state just to make sure you niggers stay in your space and dont drift over into the gated elitist communities
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>read history books
>realize it actually happened and wasn't just elaborate fiction
woah.....

nationalism/libertarianism/socialism are all preferable alternatives

neo-liberalism just takes all the worst aspects of all of those to create some frankestein abortion of an ideology

>DUDE, LETS IN WAVES OF THIRD WORLD IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE OUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS SAID IT WILL SAVE THEM MONEY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY THEIR WORKERS MORE!

>ALSO, LETS GO TO WAR WITH [insert second rate asiatic country] BECAUSE THEIR DICTATOR IS CHALLENGING OUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS!

neoliberalism + racism + highly repressive environmentalist policies limiting economic production = best system

Not sure wtf your "neoliberal" actually is, but the most obvious "wonders" modern liberalism give to world today are rampant sexual degeneration, dysgenics, lgbt/fluid genders insanity, drug abusing, increasing racial/social/sexual conflicts and forced diversity. These don't sound like a good thing at all.

Stalin definitely did nothing wrong.

I'm pretty sure most people in the wealthiest countries don't want to let in millions of unskilled people at once. I feel like most neoliberals don't factor in the illiterate immigrants.

Why do you support racist policies?

Good post

>Study history
>become fascist with pride for my people

Fuck off anglo

reading history & economics made me stop hating neoliberalism while remaining skeptical of it

why would neoliberals want to pay extra taxes for the welfare to support low income immigrants

>Pejorative, commie-tier meme understanding of neoliberalism
Look at the Chilean Miracle.
And what is the economic system that made the countries with the best standard of living that way again?

Well the recent german refugee influx is an outlier so to label it as neoliberalism or whatever is a stretch. It will be interesting to see the effects on the german economy/society in the future.

However, taking in refugees often works out fine:

nber.org/papers/w23498

>Letting immigrants be on welfare is neoliberalism
Wtf

>Look at the Chilean Miracle.
>all major national natural resources under state control
>neoliberal

How is that related to neoliberalism? To me, neoliberalism is an ECONOMIC system.

>And what is the economic system that made the countries with the best standard of living that way again?
Scandianvian social democracy

and yet, this is exactly whats happening in Europe and Canada and is exactly what the elites in America are mad at Trump for

at least hamfisted communist ideals weren't pushed on the rest of the economy, Chile has a more diversified economy instead of being dependent on copper like Venezuela is on oil

>I dont think there ever was a time in history when the political and ecenomic system in place was as hated as today.
Umm...

>What are the Chicago Boys reforms?

>Chile has a more diversified economy instead of being dependent on copper like Venezuela is on oil
Half of what they export is copper and other minerals. 25% is agricultural stuff or low technology agriculture-based manufactured shit like wine

A pack of lies, pinochet didnt denationalize much during his time in power, though he did compensate some foreign companies that had their shit nationalized with money

Its really not neoloibeealism when you think about it, look up codelco

So what, you were pointing it out as a success of neolibeealism, but it wasnt actually very neolibeeal at all and you havent refuted this, whats happening in venezuela is entierly besides rhe point

The chilean economic miracle happened because the practiced good mixed economic polocies, not bexause of neolibeealism

Look how they rank on the Index of Economic Freedom, sweetie.

but good economic policies is neoliberalism user.

>ecological left-wing degrowth accelerationist

I thought those migrants were mostly on welfare?
Also, war mongering is not a trait of neoliberalism. How many neoliberal countries have started wars the type you mention?

>economic freedom = it must be neoliberalism

Come on mate

I'm sure you were greedy to begin with.

Not an argument

Of course they will export those things Chile is best placed for in the global economy, as they should. Would you rather get paid $10 an hour at a prestigious auto factory which exists to make a politician look good or $12 an hour bottling wine in a thriving free market with a high demand for labor?

No economy is entirely unmixed. The more they lean towards free markets the better. Businesses find the most economical way to do things and people invest in things that are the most profitable. If they don't they fall behind those that do in terms of their share of the total purchasing power. It is just better all around. I am favor of a Thatcherism style system, though I might dabble in privatizing roads, schools, hospital, even emergency services.

>neolibeealism
>polocies
>bexause
hmm

>corporatism

>study history
>become monarchist

I’ve rejected economics and have come to the realization that in a socially cohesive (white) society almost any system can be made to work.

>privatize the emergency services

Nigga yopu trippin

>Read history
>realize every system is destined to fail because humans are inherently shit

Sounds like distributism/mutualism.

>Businesses find the most economical way to do things and people invest in things that are the most profitable

Pic related, your average neo-liberal enthousiast.

>Be a Neoliberal
>Support the free market and a liberal immigration policy
>These migrants then vote for left wing economic policies
Whoops!

>implying neoliberalism entails a plural Democracy

>he is a proponent of an ideology that is basically a giant pyramid scheme, draining the wealth from the bottom and channeling it towards the top
This is seen at the national level in industrialized countries. I agree that it is a problem and a greater degree and better organization of redistribution at national level would be a boon to industrialized countries. At the global level, though, inequality is dropping, living standards worldwide are raising (purchasing power parity, nutritution, rates of death by violence, death by disease, etc).
>he advocates for "free markets" which in neoliberal sense means rampant corporatism, political bribery, cronyism and consumer fucking
Trading blocks such as EU enforce great deals of consumer protection and consumers benefit from access to a broader network of services and goods which overall translates in better prices for them. Old USSR countries and autharchical systems tend to be far more corrupt than relatively open markets.
>he enjoys endless financial crises
These were happening as early as close to the beginning of recorded history, in the Bronze Age. But now we don't usually starve to death when they happen.
>he enjoys having giant financial institutions that have more power than countries
I generally don't, but governments that don't compromise with private providers seem more invested in controlling their people rather than be better providers - autarchy exists to protect regimes and isolate the people from regime oppositors, not to protect people.
>he likes to have his planet polluted to shit so he can buy a shoe for 5$ less.
Pretty much every country is trending towards green policies. Pretty much only the USA is going backwards.
>he likes to have his national politics ve reduced to "muh growth muh economy" arguments that don't consider any implications for the average Joe
For living standards to keep rising, growth is prerequisite. Growth reflects outcomes of R&D too. I take the long-view.

>be neoliberal
>corporate masters import 50 million third worlders
>wage is now 1$ if lucky and you're fired easily
>live in tiny cube for $350/mo if you don't like it someone else will gladly take it
>get raped and killed outside the gated communities

I think neoliberalism may be conflated with American neoconservatism sometimes, because they both condone market solutions to relatively high degrees.

>NEOliberal
It's not classical liberalism. Entities usually described as neoliberal generally condone mixed economies.

Because 90% of American politicians are actually neoliberals, including Republicans. When a single ideology has taken over your political apparatus they have to find increasingly inane differences to bicker over.

>Read own countries history
>Doesn't become a nationalist
People like this don't exist, do they?

So you're what, 28, 29 at the oldest? I'm guessing much younger. At any rate you probably were not out of diapers when the Soviet Union was a thing. Let me tell you: all your bitching is as nothing compared to how much people hated the Soviets.

>Study history & humanities
>Become a Mosleyan fascist

Republicans have been pushing for protectionism for a while.

They also have been pretty invested to unilateral decision making and hard power plays. Most countries post-Cold War have shifted largely to just projecting soft power. Even Russia - annexing Crimea was brazen, but not really USSR or USA-tier.

>annexing Crimea was brazen, but not really USSR or USA-tier
Yeah bro, remember all those times America invaded a country for the explicit reason of annexing them into their country? Oh wait.

Hawaii.

But I was talking about the USA invading countries with little to no cultural or historic ties to the USA (like Vietnam or Iraq, world police stuff) on the other side of the world or toppling dictators to install different dictators. Russia's pretext was bullshit, but there were indeed some people that identified as Russian in Crimea, so it fits within a nation-state narrative.

Why would it be a problem? It could be like insurance, if you don't have a bronze subscription you just have to pay the bill afterwards.

I wouldn't try to privatize it right away, just dabble a little. Set up a private service alongside public services in areas where there is high demand. Couldn't you use a little corporate security in your ghetto or trailer park? Just someone to keep an eye on things.
Things like that constitute a minute proportion of the economy.

>what is the Mexican-American war

I don't oppose private options for emergencies, healthcare, education, or whatever, but I do still think there should be universal public options.

>he's not a racist neoliberal monarchist

>>>/Pol/

>, draining the wealth from the bottom and channeling it towards the top

>>These migrants then vote for left wing economic policies
where?

All I want is a global dictator AI that's programmed to the ideals of classical liberalism.

Or just put me in charge. Billions will die but the species will ultimately be fine.

everywhere dumb ass. some me ONE place where they arent supporting retarded and suicidal socialist or welfare state policies just so they can get their gibsmedats

>it's a post-libertarian racist amerimutt episode

>Why would it be a problem? It could be like insurance, if you don't have a bronze subscription you just have to pay the bill afterwards.
>hire goons
>instruct them to assult people and thell me when and where
>turn up halfway through assault with private police
>save victim but goons 'miraculously' get away
>victim doesnt have a premium police membership
>is now in 40000 dollars debt to me

>Couldn't you use a little corporate security in your ghetto or trailer park? Just someone to keep an eye on things.
This is already a thing its called security guards

>Americans calling left wingers "liberals"

kek

>no response
>"youre racist!"

also, see

I think he meant in America

>implying the people at the top pay taxes

either way, its not that they want to, its that they are so blinded by ideology that they cant see the inherent flaw in their system and continue to push it like stubborn retards

>it looks like our new arrivals arent working, are gobbling up welfare and are uneducated. And to top it all off, there is a huge cultural and racial and religious divide that is brewing hatred and division

>fuck, better arrest middle class faggots for saying how much they dislike this failed planned!

Liberalism has been co-opted by the enemies of liberalism

That doesn't invalidate neoliberalism just shows that it needs to be more racist

>>no response
>>"youre racist!"

>make wild claim
>get mad when ppl dont take u seriously
This is why everyone hates /pol/

>Support the free market and a liberal immigration policy
>These migrants then vote for left wing economic policies
Non-whites vote for immigration but the resurgence of socialism is from white people. Shillary had a lot of social justice rhetoric with her campaign but u can't really call her economics left-wing

Are you me?

>How many neoliberal countries have started wars the type you mention?
USA

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>Neoliberalism
>late 2017
Love to cling on to quickly dying ideologies

>study some history
>get paid to shill free trade
I don't get why so many on Veeky Forums are mad at people who recognize that neoliberals/"globalists" typically win, and who choose to work for them as a result.