Discuss the native americans, especially of south america

Better in what way? The Inca had much more to offer their vassals in way of trade and as a result had a much more stable economy, and a larger and more peaceful population. Nobody wanted to be a part of the Aztec empire, the Mexica had to constantly suppress rebellions. Their vassals jumped at the chance to overthrow them.
If you want to argue that the Mexica had more impressive architecture and more interesting history, then ok.

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Norte Chico civilization is pretty cool.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Chico_civilization

there's many obscure cultures in South America, the chachapoya were a very interesting bunch, described by many sources as beautiful ("in comparison with other indians"according to one spaniard IIRC) and light skinned (chachapoyans and other ethnic group were most light skinned in the inca realm according to Guaman Poma), controlled an extensive territory before the inca conquest and left many ruins scattered allover the north peruvian andes

the most well know chachapoyan site is Kuelap but there're many more sites, like only 10 been "properly" investigated, hell even Kuelap has't been investigated until very recently (they found the first traces of buldinds in 2007 before that they only knew that wall that encloses them), is a very remote and obscure are of Peru

those are chachapoyan sarcophagi

>If you want to argue that the Mexica had more impressive architecture and more interesting history, then ok
Yeah thats what I meant, they were less stable but were overall more rad.

more chachapoyan sarcophagi

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>no pottery

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chachapoyan mausoleums

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chachapoyan ruins of Pirca Pirca in La Libertad region, relatively far from Kuelap in the Amazonas region

All you need to know is Mapuches are subhuman and one Conquista del Desierto wasn't enough

chachapoyan ruins of Gran Pajaten in the San Martin region

ruins of Macro

a building in Yacuwasi

Interesting Aztec and Mayan waepon, the Maquahuitl. It was a wooden flat club with prismatic blades made from obsidian embedded on its sides. This weapon was so powerful that it could decapitate a horse, according to the Spanis conquerors

there's really a lot of chachapoyan ruins, but most are covered with dense vegetation and there aren't many pictures of the sites

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Vira Vira in the San Martin region

Amazon Rainforest was inhabited by 8 million amerindians in the threshold of the 16th century. The city of Kuhikugu and its surrounding areas housed up to 50,000 individuals.

(the pic is not Kuhikugu)

a chachapoyan tower built in inca times, La Libertad region

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Were there tholos chambesr inside these towers like in the Nuraghi?

and the chachapoya didn't even leave the most impressive ruins in the mountains of north peru (in my opinion)

really there are several interesting ruins of dozens of cultures but they are very obscure

like pic related, a moche fortress that in its time had more than 1000 buildings, terraced fields and was surrounded by a wall, very similar to machu picchu but much older and bigger, its very deteriorated though, el niño rainfalls fucked most of the site, the area around the mountain is very famous for the destruction that causes during El Niño to the lower towns

no there was no chamber inside that tower AFAIK, it had a flat floor at the top as you can see in second pic

in Inca times, some cultures in central peru were known for their multiple story towers (up to 5), but the Chachapoya like the incas very rarely built buildings with more than 2 stories

the Recuay who lived in the southern part of the northern peruvian andes before the rise of the Chachapoya usually had buildings with 2 stories or more, though. some buildings may have been 5 stories tall.

the Recuay always lived in fortified settlements and were a very warlike culture like the chachapoya, actually in some of the few excavated chachapoya sites recuay pottery has been found meaning that either the chachapoya are the evolution of the Recuay expanding north or that the Chachapoya expanded south invading the Recuay

pic related three story buildings of a Recuay settlement

map of the settlement

badly drawn reconstruction (found in the same pdf)

another recuay site

drone capture of Marcahuamachuco and Wiracochapampa, two major pre-inca sites of the northern peruvian andes, they are very close to each other

youtube.com/watch?v=T0dkg0gt0u8

youtube.com/watch?v=8wIJbD6x8RY

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