Seriously

>57% of black women obese
>still no fat sassy black women that talk shit in video games

Why?

if you're not obese by BMI, you're dyel

I used to date a chubby rich chick. She even offered to let me live off her family money without working but I declined because I'd rather not be dependent on her. She would never have left me if I didn't break up with her. Years later she'd probably take me back if I wanted and could convince her. It's just how it is.

It's called 'freedom', America, you wanted that. Stupid people making stupid decisions shouldn't really bother you.

There is two ways of fixing the problem of obesity in USA when you are this far gone - people getting smarter or authoritarian government that will aid and promote companies making healthy food and keep shitty sugar-ridden products on a leash.

Or just hang out with a bunch of fit people and feel like the gods among slobs.

My mum wasn't fat until about 20 years into their marriage though. Infact she was lean and active as fuck.

set those fat fucks on fire during The Purge. You still have those, right?

Was your dad always a NEET? Maybe he's just really charming/handsome/"fit".

the average person doesn't workout tho.

Implying BMI is better than BF%

You mean like Norway and have free gym memberships for every taxpayer? Or you mean like 40 hour workweeks so people don't have to organize their entire freetime around fitness?

Because that will never happen as long as /pol/ exists in its current form. Maybe 20-25 years, I suppose.

I thought we were winning, what happened to that paper saying obesity rates were going down for the first time?

It's most likely worse than it looks as well.
examine.com/faq/how-valid-is-bmi-as-a-measure-of-health-and-obesity/
>BMI has a high rate of false negatives (obese people actually being classified as normal or overweight) encroaching on 50% in some studies, particularly among females.
nhs.uk/news/2014/10October/Pages/BMI-tests-miss-over-a-quarter-of-obese-children.aspx

How would you feel about this Veeky Forums.

Government starts funding loose skin surgery, encouraging weight loss and starts mandatory weight loss style meet ups after someones first weight related health problem, similar to when judges demand alcoholics keep going to alcoholics anonymous.

Do you think that would change things?

more aggressive government schemes to address it - it might be more or less like what happened with smoking, there will be a class action lawsuit against food producers (and in fact the same lawyer who went after the tobacco industry has been putting together a lawsuit against them for a while now).
bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19953716

Maybe, but so would angels coming from heaven. Things you listed would require raising taxes and socialism. seefor why it ain't never gonna happen.

I'd rather the government just focus on improving public education.

She won't divorce him because he'd get half her shit.
>t. redpurl

It's not the fault of food producers if people want to shovel thousands and thousands of calories into their bodies every day. It's the fault of the gluttons themselves.

If the government should do anything, they should start taxing obese people more.

Honestly I think we need another break from work. There should be a labor movement to remove Wednesday from the work week so people only work Mon/Tues/Thurs/Fri. Everyone would be more rested and more productive.

this
This generation is fucked, but if we make the next generation smarter, they'll realise how dangerous obesity is at a young age. If they know obesity is bad at a young age, their opinions won't change much in adulthood, because its what they'll have always known

This one?
cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0225-child-obesity.html
>The latest CDC obesity data, published in the February 26 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association, show a significant decline in obesity among children aged 2 to 5 years. Obesity prevalence for this age group went from nearly 14 percent in 2003-2004 to just over 8 percent in 2011-2012 – a decline of 43 percent

Now here's a good reason to work out

To be a houseman

The lawsuit is focused on false advertising, which apparently there's a lot of in the US (foods marketed as healthy when they aren't - outright lying about nutritional content). Food producers being blamed was bound to happen because it's the easiest way out but they do deserve it - modern snacks etc. are addictive and I can't imagine that escaped the companies' attention.

That said, there's evidence that emulsifiers produce obesity as well.
newscientist.com/article/2076906-surge-in-obesity-and-diabetes-could-be-linked-to-food-additives/
so it could be a ban of some of these additives might lower the obesity rate as well.

we don't have free gyms here, thought lots of people have membership

>emulsifiers are used to improve a food's texture and to prevent mixtures from separating, particularly in ice cream

>I eat ice cream all the time and somehow I got fat???
>it must be all those scary words in the ingredients I can't pronounce!!!
>BAN SCARY WORDS
>

No. We're genetically hardwired to find markers of good health attractive. It would take far longer for that trait to devolve out of us than it would for a society of obese losers to simply collapse.

We're also hardwired to use escapist fantasy to satisfy our real desires while settling for the 4/10 we can attain.

I'd say thirty to thirty five hour work weeks if you really wanted to make a significant difference. People spend a ton of time commuting/getting ready for work that doesn't "count" towards working hours but is still time that can't be devoted to anything else. This is especially true in the southwest where many people commute an hour one way for work on top of a nine hour work day.

Your mum won't leave because she doesn't have options.

Nobody gives a shit how much money a woman makes. An obese lawyer is probably the most unattractive kind of woman I can even bring myself to imagine.

No this isn't true. Asians just typically do not enjoy spending money to eat out. When they do the goods they eat are usually in smaller portions. Mostly the diets are just different.

>tfw you want this trend to continue so you look that much better by comparison

My demographic has been crippled by shitty education/fitness, so it feels good to be a shining beacon of job security. The only time this has ever backfired is when the hiring committee was full of slamwhales.

This. The hardest truth to accept about being a woman is that your looks absolutely do matter to a much higher degree than a man's. The good news is that if you take care of them you can have nearly anything/one in your demographic if you put in the effort.

I honestly don't care if they eat themselves into obesity as long as they don't get any special privileges for being fat. No double wide doors or toilet seats, no health insurance that covers health problems directly related to weight ect ect. They made their fat bed, let them sleep in it with no help from us.

>tfw you want this trend to continue so you look that much better by comparison
Wew, lad. That's one of the seven sins.

Hey man I've helped two slamwhales (working on a third) out of the lard ocean and back onto land as qts for deserving men, I'm trying to balance my vanity with positive acts!

>no benefits
You already feel it though. There would be a lot more people with proper jobs and much less of a burden on the gibsmedat systems, if it weren't for them. Also meaning a stronger economy and therefore a stronger country. I don't see why the government supports them. Most likely because of the lobbies that will eventually lead to the destruction of society but hey - as long as our politicians get more money it's all good, right? Who cares about political corruption.

No, not at all. Trying to get more attractive women means less competition because more are available. It's the same goal unless you motivate men directly.

What is the net effect of the Crossfit trend on "Obesity?"
Some fatties falling below the threshold, and some skellingtons putting on enough weight to move up a weight class have to cancel out somehow...

lmao the fattest make the least money on average, the second fattest make the second ... all the way up. weird

Who cares? People are free to choose what they eat and how they live. If everyone around you decides to be a fat fuck it just makes physically fit men and women seem even more appealing.

As much as the fat acceptance movement wants to tell us that fat is beautiful, people can't resist the biological impulse to choose healthy mates.

>We who are healthy live
>happily midst the unhealthy,
>among unhealthy humans
>from ill-health dwell we free.

It will be the same either way, they will all go for chad

It's not that weird. Zero education on healthy eating habits and limited access to healthy food means you're gonna be fat.

As more people get obese, it becomes less PC to talk about it. And once obesity is normal we won't even realize when somebody is fat. We're already sorrt o there, especially with women. A woman who is 20 pounds overweight isn't even considered fat to a lot of people now. When were >50% obese, it will be too late. Obesity will have taken over and HAES will win.
Also since women are more likely to be fat than men, talking about obesity like it's a bad thing is sexist now.

>Who cares?
I care. It's impossible to find a grill if most of them around you are overweight because it's a norm now.
I just came back from Eastern Europe and oh jeez the ladies there are thin

Asians have disciprine

>Will the 1% or 5% of healthy people be outcasts?
Underground lifting will become more than the home gym in your mom's basement

Unless those food additives contain nutrients from which the body can extract energy (kcal) that is very unlikely

Truth has just made way for political correctness and these researches go a bit like this

>we don't get it, obesity seems to be caused by a lot of things
>let's see what all these fat people have in common
>hmm it looks like obese people tend to eat more food which has food additives
>looks like we found something!
meanwhile ignoring the caloric consumption of fat people because "I EAT HEALTHY" whiners who do eat healthy food, but just in such quantities that it isn't healthy anymore.

OR, this is a more tinfoil hat idea. The food industry doesn't want 40% of people in america to start dieting efficiëntly

>tfw you just want a fit gf but america is making it harder and harder

This.
Jesus fucking Christ, I spent 20 minutes explaining why sucralose is non caloric to a hambeast last week, and her conclusion was "sugar is better because body can use it naturally"
NO SHIT YOU'RE BODY'S USING IT YOU'RE OVER 400

>I don't see why the government supports them.
because the alternative would lead to people dying.

Stop subsiding corn and sugar making empty calories so fucking cheap

The gender imbalance really sucks. The stats are even using BMI, which overestimated obesity in men and underestimates women. Pic-related, if you go by BF% there are way more fat women than fat men. Dating was already mors difficult for men than women, now with most women wanting to be fat it s almost impossible. I went to a partyt last weekend, like 15 girls. Maybe 8 that were single, and only 2 of those were even average looking. Meanwhile only a couple of guys were fat.

Tried okcupid, half the chicks on there are fat. And what's worse, some guys have dropped their standards so much that they settle for the fatties, giving women no incentive to lose weight. Go to someplace like /adv/ or /soc/, it's filled with guys who won't even call a girl fat unless she's like 80 pounds overweight

It's sad. And since women who aren't fat know how in demand are, they know they can be selfish cunts with shit personalities and gigs will put up with it

I remember there being a thread about someone complaining that competition for females was increasing. I laughed at him then, and I can laugh at him right now again.

If anything, competition in DECREASING. Simply just going for a walk 3 times a week for half an hour will make sure that you could pull in loads of poon with no effort. Its that fucking easy these days.

Though since obesity increases, the pool of non obese women shrinks more and more. So perhaps it is actually increasing if you have actual standards. Because more men are ripped and working out, and men are leaner than women, it would mean that there is a competition going on for health women.

I think it's more acceptable to talk about it since it's been presented so much as a health issue. HAES is almost no-one, and awareness about it as a serious health risk is on the rise I'd say.

you're right about standards slipping, though.

>People dying
>"""People"""
If land whales choose to be land whales, why is that the governmentns problem? Make sure the people are educated and understand proper nutrition. If they ignore it and die that's their choice

Or you could just make it a 6 hour work day... That fixes all the problems

That isn't what the study involved, read this:
>Last year, Benoit Chassaing of Georgia State University showed that mice that drank water containing one of two emulsifiers underwent changes in gut bacteria and inflammation of the gut – changes that led to obesity and diabetes in these animals.
>However, mice that didn’t have any gut bacteria because they had been raised in a sterile environment didn’t become ill when given the same additives, suggesting that it is the emulsifiers’ effect on the microbiome that is to blame. When the ill mice stopped consuming emulsifiers, their gut bacteria gradually returned to normal.
>Now Chassaing has supported his findings in mice using a simulation of the human gut.

>And what's worse, some guys have dropped their standards so much that they settle for the fatties, giving women no incentive to lose weight.

Men need to make other men not compromise their standards. Thirsty retards who settle are why there is pussy power in the first place.

Yes, there IS such a thing as a great personality/compatibility offsetting some chub, but not at the level we are seeing lately.

Yeah your last paragraph is what people are talking about. Men who are in average shape outnumber women in average shape like 2:1, and actual fit men outnumber fit women 20:1. Plus men in general want women more than the other way around. So that's the competition.

I think that user was right then, he just didnt exactly realize the whole story behind it. Perhaps I didnt too. But yea.

A fit guy still will be able to pull plenty of average poon though. The problem is, do any of us want average poon that may slouch every day on netflix, on a couch?

>it's the government's responsibility to educate people
if someone has internet access why does the government need to educate them?

Average chicks are still decently attractive. But for long term I have to worry about them deciding to get fat in a few years like so many others. Half the decent looking girls I knew on college are fat now in their late 20s

Maybe your mum is not as smart as you would like to think

The problem of government, of organizing a society always has been this:

the people on the left side of the bellcurve are retarded, they are animals. The people on the far right side of the bellcurve decided "well I am really smart, I think I should better society" So they enacted a bunch of laws

but then business came in and said "let me do marketing, let remove some trade barriers, let me go through the red tape" and that was good for a while, it lead to great prosperity. Too many great innovations.

These two forces, like the left and the right side in politics, were always great enemies who thought that 100% of their application would be the best for everyone.

Well it turns out that 80% to the corporate side does not always have great advantages to society in general. As evil practices, like sugar addiction, a legal drug were exploited to infuse food with an above than average desire for consumption.

Now you may argue and be like "well I think that the 100% application of corporations is good for us", but then you would have to argue against leaded gasoline, against asbestos, against carcinogenics, against tumor causing GMO's, against water polluting fracking etc.

Want to go explore further south USA next summer, but are there really that many hamplanets there? Would really put me off tbqh

>implying that people dying is a bad thing

Overpopulation caused this by creating a need for a high volume of cheap foods (read: corn syrup)

Holy crap are you me? That is exactly what I was thinking as well. How can you tell if they have the vigor to first of all train with you?

Because a woman, if she truly loves you, will actually go through hell for you. They may be childlike, but that means that they can be zealotlike in their affection as well.

Secondly and of smaller consequences, if they do not love you, do they have signs that they were going along with everyone else in the fat epidemic, were they growing fatter with everyone else of their age? (as fat accumulates to older people as well, even if they were born thin)

Basically, you would have to very, VERY carefully select and probe the women to see if they were on the path to fatness, and if they can receive your glorious Veeky Forums salvation.

Yes, we know the study didn't involve addressing real causes of obesity. Nobody wants to hear that a serving of ice cream is small. Nobody wants to hear that they shouldn't eat ice cream often. They would rather throw money at researchers to find a boogeyman they can ban than control their goddamned portions.

The Americans with Disabilities Act enables them to be this way. This happens every time the federal gov't seeks to mandate something across the board; they cannot reasonably predict how it could/will be abused in every situation, and they are too immobile and disconnected to amend an act once they've passed it. They should've left implementation up to the states, and the states would've delegated it off to local communities to decide what they build. This goes for basically every form of public welfare.

A local community is much more capable of judging the needs of its individual citizens, the federal gov't deals only in large groups, and instead of oh we should build a ramp for the grocery store because Mr. Williams uses a cane and Mrs. Jacobs is wheelchair bound, it becomes every building on every street must have wheelchair ramps and motor scooters and an elevator and reserved parking spots and extra low counters and on and on.

The problem is the government doesn't know shit.
In Germany the "german association of nutrition" or DGE recommends 0,8g/kg protein per day and way to much sugar. This is just one example. Most things they publish is utter bullshit. It's hard to figure out who is providing actually helpful information as most of the internet gurus are roiding anyway.
Ex-Fatty here, who got fit because of glorious sticky. I lost 20 kg just by eating as the sticky says and even more when i started working out.

As long as there are guys willing to plow and marry these cows, as long as shit food is so cheap, as long as they get their medical conditions paid, as long as they are catered for and not called out, it will never change.

>Half the decent looking girls I knew on college are fat now in their late 20s

Something I've noticed is that if a girl was already attractive in her high school/college years she doesn't learn about how to stay healthy (barring her having been, like, an actual athlete) and once her youthful metabolism leaves her it just snowballs into being a lardass in her late 20s.

On the flipside--those "pretty chill but just too damn fat to be physically attracted to" girls you run across in high school/college? Look them up, most of them on my end have ended up staying chill but also dropping 50-100lbs. They know that looks matter, which is something the first group never learned.

>creating a need
this is capitalism though, need doesn't enter into it. Corn-syrup is a US phenomenon and that's thanks to lobbying by the corn industry if I remember right, and at any rate even not having corn syrup in the UK we still have almost exactly the same obesity rates.

>12% of asian women obese

IT BEGINS

That's right, it's America's fault that you have no discipline or self control.

holy fuck this

>Men need to make other men not compromise their standards. Thirsty retards who settle are why there is pussy power in the first place.

Try telling this to the teenager/early twenties dudes.
You try telling that to the guys who will, because of this, never get any.

>CHAD is telling you to NOT FUCK women while he FUCKS THE BEST and you get NOTHING

I think he means that American women are fat which makes it difficult for him to find one that isn't.

>How high does it have to go before people get some fucking self-respect and do something about it?

I think once you pass a certain point you just don't give a fuck any more. It's not like the urge to change gets greater the fatter you get.

I'm watching the new Horizon episode about obesity in the uk right now and the guy in the intro said to some fat people "you are not fighting willpower, but your biology"
>muh cundishun

Fatties and 6/10s still want at least a 8/10 male

Yeah I probably should have added that to enforce your standards you have to be comfortable with being alone when they are not met, and that being fit is the ticket to successful enforcing.

Then again I am a woman so this advice might not be as easy to apply--men also have to factor in money/status, which is a HUGE problem for young men.

I have no idea how to take the average woman down a peg other than a leap of blind faith that if dudes abstained from low standard sex the average woman MIGHT improve herself instead of blogging about it.

Way too many 8/10 men who go for them though

cheapens the brand

I have a problem.

I like big tits.
Like, BIG tits.

Slim girls with big tits are arrogant, standoffish, and entitled.
The few that aren't are taken and too good to cheat, ergo why they're taken.

Fat chicks with big tits are the same but easier.
dat guilt tho

How the fuck do I find a Bearmode shortstack gf who will pass on Amazonian genes to my offspring guys?

If I fuck them am I encouraging HAES?

Uh yes it DOES have to do with this generation

Millenials are whiney, entitled, lazy perpetual children who shirk personal responsibility in favor of blaming society.

They know nothing of personal responsibility, they just want to stay glued to their electronics.

Fuck millenials and fuck people like you who blame "MUH EVIL ADVERTISERS"

Just eat less food retard

>real causes
How would you know what the real causes are? You can blame portion sizes but the UK hasn't adopted the huge portion sizes of the US and we still have the same obesity rates. I agree no-one would be obese if they counted and restricted calories, but that isn't to say changes in food production haven't affected it - especially when there's evidence showing the changes are causally linked to obesity.

>throw money at researchers
from what I can see this study is funded by the National Institute of Health, here's the link: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25731162/

>new trip everyday

hurry up and die

What I find interesting is that whtie women have lower instances of overweight and obesity than white men (63% compared to 71%), while black women have SIGNIFICANTLY higher rates of the same than black men (82% compared to 69%)

I lost 50lbs by heeding the sticky.

There are many ways to the same end, but the fucking sticky demonstrably works.

Peeps should stop trying to avoid success.

Its sugar, SUGAAAAAAAAAAAR

Even in places that never had aggressive marketing styles like the us has, never had the nixon corn syrup things. Places like russia for example.

As evolution sometimes creates the same kind of features, even though the species were completely far apart. So too is the same case with obesity across the world.

Russia became fat because of candies around the tea ritual. Candies with sugar of course. They just cant resist those things.

Meaning that you dont need an industry of evil to shit up your population. Some people actually became fat because of just their own will. An abundance of food, the success in capitalism allowed those high caloric, taste destroying abominations to be produced more. And the people simply obliged and used their newfound wealth to consume more.