Mongols

Why were the mongols so brutal to the people they conquered? all of the slaughter and rape instead of building a healthy relation with their subjugates? even the muslims weren't as vile as them

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>t. Ruski holding mongol balls so it gets dusty

>okay so if you resist we will slaughter you
>lol fuck you
>*gets slaughtered*
>WTF, bro that was unnecessary
ok

Mongols only did that to set an example.
If you surrendered and payed tribute they would let you rule in peace but if you refused they would be brutal and let a few people escape so that they could spread the tale of the unstoppable horde.
It is brutal but it also worked many times when cities would surrender without a fight.

they chimped out a bunch of times and slaughtered populations even when they did surrender.
>you should have listened to our threat xDD that gives us total justification
let me guess, the jews had it coming because they didn't all leave germany or german occupied territory?

They still slaughter people even after they're submitted sometimes, it really depends on how they valued you.

Mostly to show example and keep vast majorities of vassals under control.

So did Anglo-Saxons

They also asked to let mongols live with them

>hey civilisation we will help yuo against common enemi
>k
>gets backstabbed as soon as the war is over*
>WTF let my people free if we surrender
>k
>kills peasants indiscriminately
>”we freed them... from their nape.”

>t. John Green

>even the muslims weren't as vile as them
muslims were pretty chill in the middle ages

Did the mongols ever became settled after they conquered a city?
I thought they kept being nomadic aside form the khan, his family and his personal army who lived with him at his cpaital in china.

they spent the high period fighting against each other and the late period being annoying turks

They settled in chink land as government officers keeping Chinese villagers at bay. Wasn’t a life worth living if you were Southern.

What that user meant is that the early arabs were tolerant rulers.

But they never wholesale settled in conquered cities did they?

>Mongols only did that to set an example.
Yeah, in your revisionism dream.

This is a quote from Chinggis Khan, sounds like a class A barbarian. It's very obvious they didn't do this juts to set example.
>The Greatest Happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you. To see his cities reduced to ashes. To see those who love him shrouded and in tears. And to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters.


In the end, its still relies on the eternal Sinos to reduce their blood thirsty barbarism.
>In 1220, on the invitation of Genghis Khan with a golden tablet, Qiu Chuji left his hometown in Shandong with nineteen disciples, and travelled through Beijing and north-west. He led his team to pass Lake Buyur, Hulunbuir, Ulan Bator, Arkhangai, Altay Mountains, Bishbulik, Dzungaria, Samarkand and arrived at Hindu Kush of Afghanistan in 1222 and presented himself before Genghis Khan.
>Qiu Chuji knew that the Mongolian army had been notorious for its ruthless killing; but with a will to save the human from war, he insisted going to meet Genghis Khan.
>Qiu was supposed to satisfy the interest of Genghis Khan in “the philosopher’s stone” and the secret medicine of immortality. He explained the Taoist philosophy and the many ways to prolong life and was honest in saying there was no secret medicine of immortality. Genghis Khan did not express his dissatisfaction but honored him with the title Spirit Immortal.
>Qiu Chuji advised Genghis Khan to stop the killing and preserve the ancient civilization of China during their meetings. The Mongolian leader took his advice.
>The Mongol monarch Genghis Khan put Qiu in charge of religious affairs in Mongol-controlled China and built him the Monastery of the White Clouds in Beijing which is now the seat of the Chinese Daoist Association.
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As if other conquerors would have different ideals.
Also
>how can an asian be such a chad ?

Some of them Sinicized and become permnant settlers, there are still 6 millions Mongols live in China today, far more than entire Mongolia population.

Those aren't many.
Hopefully they will breed more would suck if such an historically influential people would die out.

>historically influential
what did they ever contribute to history other than mass slaughter? not blaming the current descendant of course

Something something Chinese city something something corpses, something something human fat.

They did have different ideals.
Try to convince me that Cyrus and Alexander enjoyed slaughter for its own sake.

>This is a quote from Chinggis Khan
No it's not. You can actually be relatively sure that it is not a quote from him.
>Why were the mongols so brutal to the people they conquered?
The Mongols literally razed the Middle east. Apart from that, however, they were more or less regular for their time. Chenghis Khan was a great diplomat, and did quite a lot with kind word too. Of course, the main idea of Chenghis was to make a threat of a very brutal punishment unless surrender. The first couple towns didn't comply, but the rest did. In the end, that saved quite a lot of effort and loss for his armies.

still had more sex

They did literally nothing worth noting after the surmise of their yoke. Probably will get outbred by chinks. It’s karma.

Strategic reasons. Their armies were all cavalry and so were relatively quite small and their horses needed grazing. They could no hope to support an army in the same area for a long period of time, so the slightest risk of rebellion would prompt a massacre.

However many groups did side with the Mongols and do everything to prove there was no risk. Most polities at this time were just as brutal as the Mongols and factions seeing that the Mongols were stronger would simply choose a new subjugator. This unprincipled realpolitik would shock the modern patriot or liberal who wants to fight imperialism. Religious differences had a lot of influence, however a tribe had little political loyalties, they were more like mafia families at the negotiating table.

Destruction is also a big influence sometimes bigger than creation.

Not everyone needs to be a settled people who focus on art and science.
Basically the existance of peoples like the mongols make history diverse and interesting.
If everyone would be like for example the ol greek city states or the british empire I would get bored of it pretty quickly.

because it is forbidden to kill the innocent civillian, destroy crops, non muslim worship places, homes, building and animals in islam. islamic conquest is mainly about spreading and eliminating threats to islam and freeing people from injustice of their rulers but retarded sultans back then just conquering for loot and power. only good islamic rulers like salahuddin and mehmet won everything

>You can actually be relatively sure that it is not a quote from him.
And how do you relatively sure it's not? It's quoted/translated from "Jami' al-tawarikh"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami'_al-tawarikh
en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

No reliable sources. The only source is non-contemporary Arabic.
The quote itself is presented as a maxim/a strategic statement, and yet his own statesmen, courtiers and secretaries didn't bother to record it.

Talk Shit, Get Hit

Don't worry. There are enough of them in China, and most of them are Sinicized loyal Chinese citizens who preserve more Mongol culture than Outter Mongolia.

Pic here is a famous Chinese actor who is the direct descendant of Genghis Khan family(Chagatai house).

This is him as Genghis Khan

>expecting civilization from Steppeniggers.

Great series, btw. Much better than HBO bullshit

By the standards of the time, sure. More tolerant than most Christians back then anyway

>What that user meant is that the early arabs were tolerant rulers.
The only people who pondered the idea of continued coexistence and fair representation of different cultures and religions within one realm post Christianisation of Roman Empire.

It had been long established that cities which surrendered would generallly be left unscathed.
If they fought on however the attacking soldiers would have the right to sack it. For the Romans it was on when the "ram touched the gates"ö.

This

I like this perfect beard very much.

Because Genghis knew that the greatest threat to a large, multi-national empire was internal conflict and rebellion, and murdering a shitload of nationals was the most efficient way of pacifying them.

They were the wrath of God sent to punish people for their sins

It's in the genetics of steppe people to be extremely violent. Because only the ruthless survive and pass on their genes.