Who was the most destructive figure in your nation's history? Pic related

Can you guess which of those is treason?

Reagan was just a figurehead for his handlers. Though I agree the pooch was screwed during his administration though.

>a tactical alliance to defeat fascism is worse than funding central american death squads by selling crack to americans

>Truman
>forgetting the Berlin Airlift

shoo shoo SCP

Three of those are liberal/left leaning (though NYT is a lot more right-wing at times than Republicans pretend) but Volokh leans conservative/libertarian.

>was he trying to set up ISIS in 1995?

None of them, inherently. That Atlantic piece wasn't talking about the Iran-Contra deal, which could have been treason, but instead the simple fact that the Contra smuggled drugs.
It went far beyond that. FDR admired the USSR and Truman just bent over until communist spies were already retreating from his ass.
>1948
I hope you realize WW2 ended in 1945.

The Intercept is in some weird libertariansocialist hinter land. They're really good at getting their sources arrested.

that volokh article is literally pro-reagan to begin with

>Who cares about backing drug dealers?
You probably weren't even conceived in the 20th century but the crack epidemic on top of gutting the countries social services created the crack epidemic that pretty much fucked the inner cities up so bad that they still haven't recovered.

>drugs only move across borders when the CIA is funding things
Nice meme. Drugs will always move across borders because there will always be demand for them. Reagan hardly had a chance to "gut social services"; Clinton and the Republican Congress gutted welfare more than Reagan did. Inner cities were already shit in the 80s and in fact crime and poverty were actually higher in the 70s.

>I hope you realize WW2 ended in 1945
Truman always hated them desu
One of they key reasons he chose to drop the A-bombs on Japan instead of invading it was the fear that the Soviets would invade and spread though the pacific putting the US in a two front gridlock.

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A single insignificant man who brought about the end to the age of empires.

This guy was king of Spain in the late 17th century and he really fucked us politically and economically

he was the greatest man ever lived if you were a millionaire in 1980s

This blow your mind then

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis

The Great War was literally a conspiracy.

>On 13 July, Austrian investigators into the assassination of Franz Ferdinand reported to Count Berchtold that:

>"There is nothing to prove or even to suppose that the Serbian government is accessory to the inducement for the crime, its preparations, or the furnishing of weapons. On the contrary, there are reasons to believe that this altogether out of the question."[74]

>This report depressed Berchtold as it meant there was little evidence to support his pretext of Serbian government involvement in Franz Ferdinand's assassination.[74]

>On 14 July, the Austrians assured the Germans that the ultimatum to be delivered to Serbia "is being composed so that the possibility of its acceptance is practically excluded".[57]

>Jagow described a war against Serbia as Austria-Hungary's last chance at "political rehabilitation". He stated that under no circumstances did he want a peaceful solution, and though he did not want a preventive war, he would not "jib at the post" if such a war came because Germany was ready for it, and Russia "fundamentally was not".[68] Russia and Germany being destined to fight each other, Jagow believed that now was the best time for the inevitable war,[69] because: "in a few years Russia ... will be ready. Then she will crush us on land by weight of numbers, and she will have her Baltic Fleet and her strategic railroads ready. Our group meanwhile is getting weaker".[68]

No he didn't.He recieved a mess and at the end of his reign the country was in a better shape

I dont understand, i thought the black hand or whatever was fully backed by serbia?

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>I dont understand,
Dominating figures in the Austrian and German Governments wanted war in order eliminate the Russian threat whilst it was weak.

After the assassination and despite the fact that their own investigation proved no connection they deliberately created a list of demands (which had to be fully accepted within 48 hours) so severe they knew the Serbians would not accept them so that they could justify a war.

Which is why they refused international mediation and why when they were surprised that Serbs were willing to accept almost every single one they still declared war anyway.

> thought the black hand or whatever was fully backed by serbia?

There was not a single connection.

holy damn is this cunt annoying, he's destroying the good wholesome values of Canada and replacing them with his terrible SJW stuff that makes life harder for natural borns of the country to actually want to stay, i myself have considered moving to the States in the future, that is, if i have a future to live for.

Here is part of the list of demands they drew up

>The Austro-Hungarian ultimatum[98] demanded from the Serbian state to formally and publicly condemn the "dangerous propaganda" against Austria-Hungary, the ultimate aim of which, it claimed, is to "detach from the Monarchy territories belonging to it". Moreover, Belgrade should "suppress by every means this criminal and terrorist propaganda".
Ciganović and Tankosić, Point 7.

In addition, the Serbian government should
1.Suppress all publications which "incite hatred and contempt of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy" and are "directed against its territorial integrity".
2.Dissolve the Serbian nationalist organisation Narodna Odbrana ("The People's Defense") and all other such societies in Serbia.
3.Eliminate without delay from schoolbooks and public documents all "propaganda against Austria-Hungary".
4.Remove from the Serbian military and civil administration all officers and functionaries whose names the Austro-Hungarian Government will provide.
5.Accept in Serbia "representatives of the Austro-Hungarian Government" for the "suppression of subversive movements".
6.Bring to trial all accessories to the Archduke's assassination and allow "Austro-Hungarian delegates" (law enforcement officers) to take part in the investigations.
7.Arrest Major Vojislav Tankosić and civil servant Milan Ciganović who were named as participants in the assassination plot.
8. Cease the cooperation of the Serbian authorities in the "traffic in arms and explosives across the frontier"; dismiss and punish the officials of Šabac and Loznica frontier service, "guilty of having assisted the perpetrators of the Sarajevo crime".
9. Provide "explanations" to the Austro-Hungarian Government regarding "Serbian officials" who have expressed themselves in interviews "in terms of hostility to the Austro-Hungarian Government".
10.Notify the Austro-Hungarian Government "without delay" of the execution of the measures comprised in the ultimatum.

Inner cities were already and irredeemable dystopia going back to the 60's

When that tactical alliance leads to Soviets as the second superpower, yeah that's obviously much worse.

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You know that picture is satirical right? Nigga isn't even PM yet.

kk fuck off then

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Literally Tony Blair without the substance.

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>retarded gay black people conspiracy theory bullshit

a tie between zygmunt vasa or jozef beck

at Yeltsin regime died people much more than in Stalin's regime

>Implying that the Soviet Union were not already on the road to becoming a superpower.

FDR or LBJ

Are you a commie or a faggot, or both?

Those are the only people who hated Reagan.

>t. Reagan voter.

This. The man is a literal retard and surrounds himself with fringe right-wing crackpots. Idk how the U.S. will recover from his presidency. He's like a retarded Margaret Thatcher on a quixotic quest to reassert American Supremacy but is only worsening the nation's death throes.

"Hated" is different form "hates." Any red-blooded American would hate this treasonous, gun-taking, corporate-cock-sucking bastard after enough time to mull his crimes without his beautiful friendly mug on tv every day.

I'm a communist and I voted for Trump because I want to see this shithole burn.

>funded the shitskins in Afghanistan
>plunged the country into a fiscal deficit
>legalized two million of illegal beaners and refused to do anything about border security on top of that
So what exactly was Reagan good for? Don't give me that he defeated the commies bullshit, the USSR collapsed on its own because it was an economic catastrophe.

Salvador Allende.
Ironically enough, he's the indirect reason Chile became the best South American country so far.

It might lead to some more good than bad in the end though. Him getting elected really highlighted how much the republicans and dems suck. People are more inspired to get money out of politics than ever and the republican party that Reagan made is fucking dead soon. Republicans are the Trump party now, and Trump ain't too popular.

>So what exactly was Reagan good for?

He made Republicans into neo-liberals/neo-conservatives.

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dumb nigger broke the country with his retarded finance minister and extreme external debts
took 20 years and 5 different currencies to get out

You mean from our own history? That's easy.

Sane people don't hate dead people.

Every fucking thing you just listed was the piece of shit democrats not keeping their end of three bargains.

Every single one.

Sane people don't hate the living. The dead become ideas, and ideas deserve vigorous and venomous opposition.

Each of the three things happened under Republican congresses.

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What gives you the impression that he's bad for th US? The stock market seems to like him and so too the coal industry.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hand_(Serbia)
The government literally had a special organization specifically for countering the Black hand.
Also, the black hand all got executed for attempting to kill the crown prince/regent/supreme commander.
Btw, the leader of the white hand was homo and later president of the Yugoslav government.

Probably pic related. Thanks for nothing you crippled cousin fucking piece of shit. Wtf I love the military industrial complex and pseudo-democracy now

>he made Republicans into a bunch of Jewish internationalist ex-Trotskyist Gordon Gecko wannabes
That's a good thing?

a true tyrant, a man who bathes in the blood of aborted white children while taking it in the ass from tranny black muslims. disgusting.

Trump is a mixed bag. On one hand he wants to boost domestic industry, restrict immigration, stay out of a potential conflict with Russia. On the other hand he stuffed his cabinet with kikes, zionists, Goldman Sachs brass and people like that shitskin in the FCC.

How are you thinking the arson is progressing so far?

Not really, why people are panicking over him is beyond me
>Oh look at this tax plan, it's so good for the middle cla-
>*goes through Congress*
>-shit
Donald Trump is going to doing nothing but the same old shit, except he won't raise taxes on the rich: he is going to deport illegal immigrants and reform ICE and Border Control (hopefully, because we really need to do something Latin American and Mexican gangs/cartels hopping the border). That's is really all that is going to happen desu, and yet liberals and Democrats have to assert that he is some sort of neo-fascistic Putin puppet because of a dossier that was funded by Fusion GPS and the DNC (which podesta lied before Congress about, denying the DNC had any part it)

Same old bipartisan corruption, with plebs losing their minds over obvious propoganda and sensationalism

The unfortunate truth is that Trumps own voters will suffer more than the blue state people on average if the Trump tax plan and policies turn out to be bad. They are risking more.

>Blue state people
There is no such thing, blue states are highly diverse. Wealthy WASPs from Connecticut hardly have anything to do with the shitskin infested cities of California.

What really triggers my almonds is that a lot of people who voted for him said that they voted "Fair Sipilä", not "CEO Sipilä" when he started roughing up the Finnish welfare system up. Like, hello, that was literally his campaign: "We'll get things done! Not necessarily good things, but things nonetheless! P.S. the rich need more help than the handicapped, mentally impaired and other poor people."

What followed shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

>blue states are a myth, we will kill the left and turn america into a low tax paradise

Instead of sperging out tell me how exactly I'm wrong. California is poor as shit regardless of tax plans, while the Northeast is wealthy. They have nothing in common with each other than voting for the same party.

Does the figure in our Nation's History have to be a president?

For the most presidents just try to do the best they can, satisfying on half while pissing the other half off.

For instance, Reagan armed the fucking the Taliban, and gave weapons to Iran, thus giving birth to our current enemies. Why? To spite communists by keeping them from gaining new land(They were going to collapse anyway, there was no need to waste taxpayer money on weapons to give to Arabs who would wreck our economy in the future with 9/11.)

Reagan also doubled down on drug law enforcement(Again Marijauna is no worse than cigarettes, but tell that to taxpayer funded riot cops). He also made ghettos even worse through cutting welfare based on stupid stereotypes of black mommas.

But, Reagan did rejuvenate the economy, and he definitely was not a push over unlike say Jimmy Carter. He also promoted world peace through world trade. (Though if ask me, all would really take is someone who would set up a blockade to frigates of immigrants trying to enter the country. Then, you would not get the Events of Scarface starring Al Pacino).

I think the most destructive person in US History was whover was behind this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment#History

Because thanks to this, anti-vaxxers have ammunition to make people distrust medicine. Dave Chappelle is an anti-vaxxer because of this. Also racial division tension is worse because of this event, since it's another instance of White people not treating Black people as equals.

California is also one of the biggest contributers to the US economy, with it's economy alone being the sixth largest in the world. A bunch of NE states with nothing much going on in them doesn't have the same impact on the USA that californa does.
The east coast is different, I will admit.

>Americunts think presidents should be like wrestlers

The living standards of the average Californian are far below those of the average Nebraskan or Ohion, while Massachusetts and Connecticut might as well be a completely different planet.

Connecticut and California are both wealthy states. They have less risk than people from Alabama or Kansas. Let me put it like this, I'd be more worried if I lived in Mississippi and not in Massachusetts.

>state with nothing going on in it has slightly better living standards.
yes, which is why people migrate to california instead of staying in their mid western paradise

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Angela_Merkel_Juli_2010_-_3zu4.jpg

Because California is getting the influx of 3rd world Mexicans and Filipinos thanks to the immigrant communities being well established there, plus the existence of sanctuary cities.
When you compare California to a state like Nebraska, Nebraska has a far better budget security, higher salaries, lower cost of living, lower crime, higher average IQ, better infrastructure, higher percentage of high school and university graduates, they blow the fuck out of California which is by many metrics one of the shittiest states in the Union.

>but muh 7th largest GDP in the world if we were our own country
That argument becomes moot when you realize that spot is currently occupied by India. Doesn't exactly translate to living standards now does it?

Texas has higher net migration than California.

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So does Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina and many other states. Californians are just mentally stuck in the 1970s thinking everyone wants to move to California, when the trend is people moving out of there the second they can.

t. Henry Clay

Alive or Dead OP?

US economy is booming right now.
Not saying whether it's Trump or the GOP as a whole, but saying the US is in its death throes is retarded.
>I'm a commie
Throw yourself off a cliff, traitor.

please explain.

Midwesterners are moving to the South or places like Arizon and New Mexico.
Cali is being filled with third world trash.

love

Nobody is moving to New Mexico, that state is a poverty infested dump.

fuck this cunt. fuck him to death. he is the reason that so many citizens of the USSR went Pakistan level poverty. My father, mother, aunt, grandparents, etc had to experience it first hand, the literal hell after the fall of the union.

Henry Clay was a political rival to Andrew Jackson.

Nah his father was worse. He pissed off the Frenchies by declaring martial law, made Canadians hate military spending so much were using 50 year old helicopters still and he fucked up bringing the constitution home (Quebec didn't sign it and it leaves issues between the provinces and feds). He was also best friends with an oppressive dictator and gave birth to his shitspawn son who is fucking the liberal party so hard right now

Badly, Trump is galvanizing the so-called Left and driving the moderates to it. In 2018 the Democrats will probably have 2/3 of both houses.

>destroyed the bretton-wood dollar and oversaw the decoupling of real wages from productivity and the beginnings of oligarchy
And yet because he started the EPA and went to China people think he wasn't that bad.