Well?

Why not Ascend?

It's cheap and effective. Literally give me one reason why every single male adult who lifts should not at the very least cycle 500mg test, if not blast and cruise.

Why would you look at naked men?

you'd use your roided physique on having sex and enjoying your life

because its a hobby and vegeta never once roided but he still pushed his natty limits

did you even fucking watch dbz at all? all the heroes were natty as fuck

yeah exactly
go anywhere else then Veeky Forums or your gym and you'll see everyone has shit bodies
I lift for 10 months, lost weight from being fat and gained musle. I'm bigger than the average men in the population.
And anyway, impressing pleb is about low body fat.

They were fake natties

You didn't see behind the scenes pinning tren. Why do you think they yelled like fucking retards and always got so angry?

youtube.com/watch?v=0_mXP8jXU2s

>not using your failures as pure rage to ascend to the next level
>needing oils in your butt lmao

I bet you think porn is real too.

Face it, all your heroes are roiders. The sooner you accept it the sooner you can stop being a beta

If you need roids to get laid, you need to reevaluate your life

Who said you needed them to get laid?

You don't need anything, but it helps you.

You're right OP, if you lift to compete in body building contests. Pretty much everyone roids in proffesional body-building but, and this might surprise you, not everyone on this Manchurian yurt supplying board is lifting to compete.

Why is competing the only reason?

usually b.c 1 of their loved ones/friends died. pfff

I, for one, have no idea where would I get them (and be sure that it's actually what it is supposed to be)

>I, for one, have no idea where would I get them

r/steroidsourcetalk

Look at a source with good reviews.

is it then purchased online? I would need to check on how much trouble I can get in the Netherlands for this shit lel

While somewhat true, I look at Steeve Reeves and realize that there's hope

Jokes on you, I'm not bodybuilding

I don't think it's a waste of time. If I don't off myself or die accidentally, I still probably have over 50 years of life left in me. I have plenty of time to keep lifting, I'm not in a hurry to anywhere, I consider lifting a lifestyle change, not an activity in witch I reach the maximum amount of results in the least amount of time using any means nessecary. I be must carefully though, so that I don't fuck up my back, like my egoistic friends who seem to be in a hurry.

From what I've heard, it could be absolutely great for you to start roiding somwhere around late fifties to early sixties, but any sooner than that, you are just being insecure, because you feel like that you are not enough as what you are and try to explain it with a funny argument of "using a tool"

>gear is just a tool to help me get where I want to be, faster, better, stronger :D

Yeah, but your body also has everything you need, why can't you just be happy with that?
[spoiler]But what about needing to eat food :ooo[/spoiler]

>the meme exists is to keep a scarcity on people who look good because if everyone is huge then no one is huge?

This is literally the only argument that you have in your post, everything else is just anecdotal nonsense, there is also an argument for health, but you could really elaborate on that. What I'm saying is that the only argument you have on this is entirely superficial. You are only conserned about looking good.

I'm really interested on hearing your opinions, since I seriously cannot understand people who are so desperate that they turn to steroids.

>Yeah, but your body also has everything you need, why can't you just be happy with that?

It doesn't

>since I seriously cannot understand people who are so desperate that they turn to steroids

It's not about being desperate. It's very simple cost-benefit analysis.

If you weigh up the costs, and benefits of taking steroids it become very clear it's the right choice, and not only in how you look.

>Save time
>Look much better than you would normally
>Reduce effort in having perfect nutrition just to make some mediocre gains you would natty
>Get to live the best years of your life looking good
Being pretty big at 30 years old when you've lifted for 10 years is one thing, that's cool. But YOU want to be jacked in your early 20's, that's when it matters.
>Better mood
>Better concentration and working towards goals
A lot of people report finding it much easier to study or excel in other activities thanks to it. Higher testosterone levels are beneficial for a lot more than just building muscle.

All this for the low low price of having to monitor your health markers occasionally and the low financial cost.

Does street workout count?
Like... lifting your own body?
I mean... uh... please don't make fun of me, I'm doing my best.

why would i want to fuck up my endocrine system and risk organ failure for life just to get mired by a bunch autist fags on 4chinz. most bitches don't even like huge muscle mass. it looks gross and scares them

>When did you realize that roiding is a healthy and good thing and the only reason the meme exists is to keep a scarcity on people who look good because if everyone is huge then no one is huge?

overkill. if you hadn't added this line it would have been decent b8

>most bitches don't even like huge muscle mass. it looks gross and scares them

That's what they tell you because it's rude to say to someone's face that you prefer someone who looks entirely opposite.

>I'm really interested on hearing your opinions, since I seriously cannot understand people who are so desperate that they turn to steroids

people want a quick fix. they roid, once they finish the cycle they deflate like baloons and stop lifting all-together

Ahahahahahahhahahahahah

Do you realize that 99% of the population think that roiders are disgusting freaks?

Being natty is more than enough for health and well being,and for looking good,roids are only acceptable if you wanna compete because they all use steroids.

Keep deluding yourself faggot,but dont try to make others buy in your stupid as fuck beliefs.

Roiders are a fucking joke,being a big sack of muscles doesnt make you fit.

Okay you've piqued my curiosity.

I'm at 1/2/3/4 at 6'3 been lifting on and off for years. Would 16weeks of pining test do much or would I have to hop on dbol or tren?

>When did you realize that roiding is a healthy and good thing

kek

are you seriously asking for roiding advice from some b8ing 15 yr old on Veeky Forums?

jesus christ i knew people here were stupid but holy shit

Natty bodybuilding is not a joke,maybe you think it is because 1)you think anything not arnold tier is not worth lifting for 2)you havent lift for more than 6months

Just an inquiry you autist. Go sperg elsewhere

you're pathetic m8, kys

>people want a quick fix. they roid, once they finish the cycle they deflate like baloons and stop lifting all-together

Blast and cruise

You also don't lose all your gains.

>Do you realize that 99% of the population think that roiders are disgusting freaks?

That's funny given that 99.9999% of the population doesn't know what roiders look like.

They think fitness models and IFBB pros are "NATURAL".

You are so retarded and full of shit

>Would 16weeks of pining test do much or would I have to hop on dbol or tren?

Yes it would do a lot.

Do that, throw in 50mg dbol/sdrol for first 5 weeks if you want.

Do that and then go from there.

Yeah roids can also make you have suicidal behaviour/thoughts,depression,cancer etc.

We are made the way we were born,deal with it and stop risking your health for muh test muh muscles muh enhanced brain performance

>It doesn't
sure it does!
>Save time
Really? like your 2 hour workout turns into 1 hour workout?
>Look much better than you would normally
This, in my opinion is extremely irrelevant
>Reduce effort in having perfect nutrition just to make some mediocre gains you would natty
This is a another argument for looks and laziness, learning proper nutrition is extremely helpful.
>Get to live the best years of your life looking good, YOU want to be jacked in your early 20's, that's when it matters.
Another extremely superficial argument, being a little bit slobby never prevented me to find compatable people into my life. I think you give way too much emphasis to looks, probably because you yourself must be absolutely obsessed with them.
>Better mood
The only thing I and see about it is that it makes you extremely short tempered and snappy. Isn't exessive violence and suicide quite common among steroid users?

>Higher testosterone levels are beneficial for a lot more than just building muscle.

This is actually something that I'm willing to agree on, but it still does not justify a person deciding for themselves without any knowledge about you know, doctor stuff, making a decision to start using steroids.

>All this for the low low price of having to monitor your health markers occasionally and the low financial cost.

Would you start shrinking if you stopped using it? what else would happen? What are these heath markers you need to follow and why?

>do that and go from there

Does it ever end? Or is it like cocaine where you need to constantly taking it?

>Yeah roids can also make you have suicidal behaviour/thoughts,depression,cancer etc.

Pulling this out of your ass?
The effects of testosterone on behavior, mood etc are pretty well documented.

>We are made the way we were born

What if we're born with low testosterone or some sort of deformity? Do we just ignore science and medicine and say "god made me this way so this is how i was intended"?

Almost no fucking one likes roiders m8,deal with it.

Men are more into roided bodies,but most women find it repulsive.

And if we are talking about mr olimpia winnerd and competitors I can asure you that no one finds that shit attractive.

And yeah,people not into fitness dont know shit about roids wich doesnt mean they dont find repulsive roid bodies.

It also feels fucking good when you are smaller than some roided meathead but stronger than him cuz muh roids lmao.

No,if you have a problem you try to fix it.

But if your problem is not being big enough then you are a faggot

You can look better than 99% of the male population without taking roids or supplements. The thing is that the majority of the population is extremely lazy and baby-like and want to look shredded in 1 month, so they either lose their money in useless crap like protein shakes and creatine or take roids and get side effects.

The best part about being natty is that the gains NEVER go away, whereas roiders lose all their gains in like 2 months.

>Blast and cruise.You also don't lose all your gains.

ye, you only lose your liver and your fertility

>why are you not taking steroids user?

Because I'm 5'7" and don't wanna look like I'm overcompensating for it

No it does not end.

But why would you want it to? It feels so good you won't want to.

>Really? like your 2 hour workout turns into 1 hour workout?

No, as in you don't need to lift for 6 years to get to a barely passable physique standard which is only maintainable when your diet is entirely flawless.

>This is a another argument for looks and laziness, learning proper nutrition is extremely helpful

Yes but who wants to count calories all day when you can be enjoying your life looking good, especially in your 20's?

>Another extremely superficial argument, being a little bit slobby never prevented me to find compatable people into my life

It's not the end-all, be-all but it absolutely helps you. Don't you want people to say "Wow big guy, let's ask him for advice" or have women staring at you?

>The only thing I and see about it is that it makes you extremely short tempered and snappy

That's a meme. You are less angry or short-tempered because you're confident and know you look good.

>What are these heath markers you need to follow and why?

Blood work mostly

>Almost no fucking one likes roiders m8,deal with it.

Cope. Not going to bother with you, stay delusional.

>Pulling this out of your ass?

I'm not him but link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022313529794#page-1

what wholesaler?

>as in you don't need to lift for 6 years to get to a barely passable physique standard which is only maintainable when your diet is entirely flawless.
No, no and no. Let go of your memes, what you are thinking about is not real life.
>when you can be enjoying your life looking good, especially in your 20's?
Who says you need to count calories? Yeah, I sure am enjoying myself the most when I'm pushing myself the hardest in the gym or working late hours on my work shitf or studying maticulously for whatever, real results come only trough effort. Didn't you get over the enjoying your life meme in your teens like normal adults?
>Don't you want people to say "Wow big guy, let's ask him for advice" or have women staring at you?
Sure I do, I just don't belive in the sightest that steroids would need to play any role in that. Most people look like shit anyway.
>That's a meme.
But is the suicide a meme?
What is this post >Blood work mostly
But you didn't say why? I don't see why that would be a result of a perfectly healthy and ok to do hobby.

Post your roided body man,if you are aesthetic enough and not a fucking repulsive freak I will admit that you are right and I will shut up and admit that im a faggot.

Lets fucking go.

Not him, but you do sound like an absolute mongoloid

10/10 Would suggest using brain roids to improve intellectual capacity

bodybuilding is for faggots anyways.

You do if you're ugly though.

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>open thread
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You guys are wasting my, yours and everyone's time.

>>amazed
They can be impressed but amazed is really reserved for the roiders. At my gym people honestly don't realise so many of the guys are on roids yet it's so obvious if you know what to look for

lmao speak for yourself

>date last saturday
>we're in bed
>she's touching my back
>"i didn't even know there were muscles here."
>"is that what a sixpack looks like? that is insane."
>"you're really strong."
>that heavenly feel

if she'd do that with a roider shed have fucking pimple pus all over her hand

Girls aren't attracted to gorillas. If she grew up in an environment wanting it then yes but That's like a girl that likes "artists, cooks, writers". It's environmental. A lot of girls laugh at you for being pathetic and look at you as changing yourself for others which is what trannies do. The natty limit is seriously built in women brains as ideal male
MORE MUSCLE IS NOT IDEAL. What are proportions?

this is pasta, r-right guys? guys??

Yeah, and most of the population are skinny fat plebs or just fat. So i don't have to take it to the extreme to look better than them and get mired

Myprotein is pretty much the best and cheapest online