How did the Nazi's turn out to be the ultimate symbol for bad guys when pretty much every civilization has committed...

This right here. Everything else is a fucking meme answer.

That's not true if you take into account the Eastern Front of WW2, WW1 was far deadlier in Western Europe but not in Europe overall.

Because the blatant "racial cleansing" ideology and "industrialize genocide" which almost never ever happened before.

Mongols, Romans,...etc were also very brutal and cruel but that's just pure barbarism, most of all, it's long time ago, their empires were destroyed, cultures are displaced/reconstructed. Besides, Mongols are still condemned by many people today, if they do the same thing today again, they'll probably be condemned even harsher than Nazi.

>Mongols, Romans,...etc were also very brutal and cruel but that's just pure barbarism, most of all, it's long time ago, their empires were destroyed, cultures are displaced/reconstructed.

>the "modern societies have progressed fallacy"
>ignoring the recent Armenian, Holodomor, Cambodian, and other genocides created by advanced societies

>WW1 had a larger European death toll.
That's completely wrong. Do you not count Poland and the Soviet Union as European?

None of those were as quick, recent, or efficient, or involved as many ostensibly white people as the holocaust.

Because the Nazis were evil. Probably the most evil group in the history of humankind.

Because Germans are just superior in everything. Even in being barbaric.

>it only matters when whites do bad things

Jesus quit being so damn obvious

>Armenian, Holodomor, Cambodian, and other genocides
None of these were due to industrialize genocide and blatant racial cleansing same as Nazi.

Mongols and Romans cruelty were thousands years ago, that's not "progressed fallacy" but fact. Want to take a seat?

He meant it was white people being killed, silly. Before you reply "Jews aren't white" that's why he said "ostensibly".

>industrialization is what matters

That's correct.

its like the people the nazis wanted to get rid of control the media or something

It is incidental to the reality of genocide and merely the methodology employed. Genocide is genocide, the system used is not important.

mass media. Hollywood movies, TV shows, tv series, news, teachers, etc.

>How did the Nazi's turn out to be the ultimate symbol for bad guys
They have comitted barbaric acts against modern actors, against everyone around them, and then they lost completely. Thus, at the moment of them losing the war, the world consisted of powers that were incredibly pissed at them, and none who were friendly or neutral.

Americans should really be shot if they want to discuss culture

What does "industrialize genocide" even mean if it doesn't include the Armenian Genocide? And as if no one else in history systematically genocide another group to move into their land. That's is such a retarded meme phrase ITT.

It doesn't mean jack shit, it merely is semantics employed by disingenious Jews and collaborators.
Likewise it implies the opposite of what they are saying- "industrialized" genocide is impersonal and requires fewer participants rather than a genocide using traditional means i.e. hand held weapons where the murder is both personal and requiring far more participants. Fucking Jewish intellect.

most recent large scale incidence

Name one civilization that industrially exterminated people.
And Nazis did it in 20th century, when such actions were widely seen as barbaric.
And Nazis literally started a war to acquire land which would then be purged of it's natives, while part would be enslaved. They planned to do this in Europe, as opposed to colonies.

It means they literally organized it to a massive extent, gassed people and then cremated the corpses.
As for "personal" genocide, they did that too, early on.

What? Zyklon B is used for fumigation in order to prevent lice induced typhus, which is what damn near killed everyone at Belzec iirc.

No one had ever done it while looking this good

>Good vs evil bullshit

I spot a stupid nazi.

They never really went away and will continue to exist at the fringes of western democracy because of their nature(being a reaction to it) unlike the others and they were a pretty existential threat to those they declared their enemies, come tell me when you see neo-mongols parading down the streets.

Scale of the attrocities, and the absolute clusterfuck it caused. They created a path of total destruction all across Europe.

Why do you care?

Their only real competition were the commies and there aren´t many European nations that were damaged by Russians more than Germans.

They named the jews. And since the jews are controlling every western country, they designated the nazi as the worst thing to ever walk on earth. The bolsheviks were far worse, but they were jews, and they were allied with jewish owned western countries US, UK France etc...When the bolsheviks entered Berlin they commited mass murder and mass rape because Stalin himself gave them green light to do so, the GI commited rape and murder too, massive bombings on civilians but they're the "good guys" because they won.

Commies named Jews too.

>WW1 had a larger European death toll.

Commies persecuted all religions except the jews. For a reason, all the bolchevik heads were jews, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, all jews.

because it happened just 70 years ago

Don't you love to say how every major empire persecuted jews? why isn't rome demonized?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism
Also:
>According to first hand testimony, Stalin was symapthtic to Hitler and saw that "Gas chambers are sometimes necessary"

You know you have to be 18 to post on this site, right?

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>DA NAZIS DINDU MUFFIN TWAS DA JOOZ N CUMMIES I KNOW DEZ BECUS I RED STURNFRUN DERRRRGH

Lenin was less Jewish than the ideal Aryan man Werner Goldberg

>>According to first hand testimony, Stalin was symapthtic to Hitler and saw that "Gas chambers are sometimes necessary"
Sure, for goyim that don't accept bolchevism.
The bolchevik had concentration camps called Gulag and nobody cared because they weren't for jews.

>Lenin was less Jewish than the ideal Aryan man Werner Goldberg
So, jews were nazis?

>The bolchevik had concentration camps called Gulag and nobody cared because they weren't for jews.
Mate Gulags are the second thing people think of when it comes to genocide, right after the holocaust.

You'd have to be a complete retard to not know of the Gulags

Werner Goldburg was half-Jewish (twice as Jewish as Lenin), but he looked like a perfect aryan

We know the Gulags, far more gentiles died there than jews in concentration camps. Why isn't it the top thing discussed when it comes to mass murder? Because the victims weren't jews.

They gave jews eternal asshurt.

What were Lenin's ethnicity then? Even his wikipedia says unknow origin. How do you know he was less jewish than a halk nazi jew. Unknown origin means crypto jew to me. Most of the bolsheviks were jews, their heads had to be jews too.

O B S E S S E D

>Russians and Turks aren't white

Lenin's father was either ethnic Russian or some sort of Turkic, and his mother was Swedish, German and Russian Jewish

>What were Lenin's ethnicity then?
Lenin's phenotype is 100% traditional to his area of birth (kalmyks)

Many nations and ideologies were around for decades or centuries to commit horrible crimes in
The nazis were around for only around a decade and they did just as much in that concentrated of time, as well as being ideologically apposed to much of the world and doing many things while committed by many nations in the past, was considered worse then than before due to public opinion over things like conquest and imperialism changing

Allies went overboard with the propoganda.
Overuse of propoganda is what caused ww1 and the aftermath as well.

I think it's mainly their efficiency that's unsettled.
Like trying to find the quickest cheapest ways for mass extermination of people is more despicable than "accidentally" starving women and children to death or razing a country to the ground like we've seen England and the Communists do so many times.
I think it's the mixture of barbarity with modern organization and planning that makes it seem particularly vile.

This is actually not true.
>because the victims weren't jews
That's also not true. Jews also suffered from deportations (not all people were deported to Gulags, though).
During the third big deportation from East Poland they deported 64533 Jews (84.6% of all deportees).

It was actually worse than what propaganda said.

Because the soviets were the good guyse

>That forehead tattoo
Why do they people think that's cool.

Not him, but both nazis and communists should be fucking exterminated like the vermin they are.

>khohol nazis
>people
lmao

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Serious question, when did Slavs become neo-nazis?

Hitler was worse than a literal cannibal vampire demon?

>Werner Goldberg
>At the beginning of 1938 Goldberg served a six-month term in the Reich Labour Service whose uniform, as Goldberg later recalled, “had a swastika on an armband.” On December 1, 1938 Goldberg joined the German Army. He took part in the invasion of Poland on September 1, 1939, serving alongside childhood friend Karl Wolf, whose father was now a high-ranking SS officer.
>Shortly after the beginning of the War, Goldberg’s photograph appeared in the Sunday edition of the Berliner Tagesblatt newspaper with the caption ”The Ideal German Soldier”; the photograph had been sold to the newspaper by the official army photographer. It was later used on recruitment posters.
>In 1940 following the Armistice with France, Goldberg was expelled from the army under Hitler’s order of April 8, 1940 which stated that all 1st degree Mischlinge were to be expelled from the military.
>In December 1942, Goldberg’s father was admitted to the Bavaria Hospital. The Gestapo however raided the hospital and sent him to a Jewish hospital which had been requisitioned by the Gestapo for use as prison, from which Jews were taken and sent to Auschwitz. On Christmas Eve, gambling that the guards would be drunk or absent, Goldberg took his father from the hospital. The elder Goldberg was soon back in the hands of the Gestapo and in April 1943 was summoned for deportation, but Werner told him not to show up and he was again saved. He became the only member of Goldberg’s family (aside from Werner himself) to survive the war

What a shit hand at life, that poor bastard

because they were all edgy about it

imagine if a bunch of local mobsters came together in a bar to set some deal straight, most of them would be dressed in some way that designates them as dangerous but still as ''gentlemen'', they would act in some way that is a bit brutal but they would still add a bit of sociopathic charm to it, they would talk in some slang but still attempt to be polite to people, even if in a patronising way, and they wouldnt realy openly and literaly express their respective intentions, in fact they would say as little as possible

then imagine one mobster comes along, and he dresses in a way that designates him as psycho killer, and acts like a treathening asshole openly to everyone around him, he talks in theatrical monologues in which he constantly reafirms his honest intention to kill a lot of people, and hes well known to be fanaticaly ambitious, armed and confirmed dangerous and openly malicious, and he routinely picks fights, even if he cant win

well, such a mobster wouldnt exist, the other guys would kill him for being a idiot, never mind they themselves have sex slaves and dismembered corpses in the basement

thats what happened to the nazis

also, sauce

>>when pretty much every civilization has committed barbaric acts?

>curb individual freedoms
>attack minorities
>install a cult of personality
>start a world war of agression and commit institutionalised and systematised mass murder along the way
>during mid-20th century Europe
>all while wearing caps with skulls on them, participating in rituals of occultism and speaking a horrid language

Not exactly hard to see them as the bad guys

you just described every major european power

before hitler thats how people saw the french because napoleon and the revolution

Napoleon didn't create murder factories in occupied territories to purge the local population. Nazi Germany also emrged during the mid-20th century, when advanced countries were a lot more civilised.

>before hitler thats how people saw the french because napoleon and the revolution
That’s half true. They saw the French as we see the Germans now. But yeah, Napoleon was pretty much seen as the antichrist for a long time.

>But yeah, Napoleon was pretty much seen as the antichrist for a long time.
Only because anglos got really scared for the first time since the Invincible Armada

Because they killed Jews, and since most Western white powers are colonies of Jewish elites, they made it into the ultimate evil.

Thats it. Thats all.

What's her Instagram?

Don't forget that Stalin murdered tons of communist Jews that were occupying the USSR government, and that under his rule, he replaced the "internationale" as the anthem (Cosmopolitian Jews are incapable of nationalism) with a deliberate nationalistic anthem, and then proceeded to rebuild the USSR as an extension of the Russian empire. Honestly, Stalin deserves more credit. There's a reason Russians still like him.

>curb individual freedoms
>attack minorities
>install a cult of personality
>start a world war of agression and commit institutionalised and systematised mass murder along the way
>during mid-20th century Europe
>all while wearing caps with skulls on them, participating in rituals of occultism and speaking a horrid language

MUH MINORITIES.

Chirst, you IQ denying leftist, I bet you call the US evil for having these same things. In fact, throughout history you can see many of these things happening.

Anyone who unironically thinks LE NAZI ARE LE EVIL are fucking retards.

First half of this is Stalin's Soviet Union

Premium bait you've got here.

Teenager or just retarded?

Stalin is not exactly seen as a good person. Pretty sure he is always put among the greatest mass murderers of history.

Literally all of Europe got scared. France conquered half of the continent.

It's funny that the french revolution was about removing a tyrant and replacing him with democracy. yet first thing they did was getting a tyrant who proclaimed himself emperor and went on an insane war rampage against every country he could think about.

Because for all the atrocities of, say, the Roman Empire or the Mongol hordes, one can only ever accuse such ancient regimes of being products of their environment.

The Roman Empire were simply pagans doing pagan things, albeit in a vastly more organized scale than had yet been seen. They knew nothing of economics, environmental science, they did not even possess any systematized theoretical framework for the sciences. They carried to its logical conclusion the pagan ethical standards of the times: which despised altruism and kindness as signs of weakness and lauded conquest and vengeance slaying as the noblest acts that a man could preform

The Nazis has none of these excuses. Even as the rest of the world was weary of armed conflict and sought to alleviate the pressures of depression through peaceful domestic spending, the Nazis not only blew up their country’s finances in a mad rush to privatize and militarize, they deliberate hid this fact from the world though mefo bills and other accounting trickery. Why would they have to go to such extreme lengths to be deceptive if they knew that what they were doing was wrong by the standards of the day? Even as the scientific community was turning away from racialist theories the Nazis dismissed them as Jewish science, doubling down on their pseudoscience, hammering home their big lies until people believed them. The holocaust and the holodomor are incomparable for the same reasons why 1st degree murder is considered a more heinous crime than manslaughter. Their eradication programs were of no practical war time benefit (in many ways even hampering the war effort by drawing needed resources away from the front) but purely a program of political gain. Their attempts at regressing humanity to an obsolete ethos of the strong and worthy dominating the weak and helpless was widely condemned in its time, and in ours even more so. That’s what makes the Nazis so rightfully despised by thinking people.

>racialist theories
>pseudoscience

spotted the shill

You have to go back

Dem power vaccums. And to this day, people are always saying, why don’t we just kill Kim Jong Il? Why don’t we just kill Assad? Why don’t we just kill x?

>and will call anyone who makes an argument he can’t counter a “shill” or “cuck”

Like clockwork with you retards

>Literally all of Europe got scared.
nah he was pretty chill. I was really surprised when I learned that he is considered a bloody tyrant in the anglo world
t. italian

meanwhile the hapsburg and anglos playing their private Risk game over 800 years is fine and dandy I guess.
A united Europe under Napoleon wouldn't be half bad desu

>there's objective good guys and bad guys in war
>the Americans didn't commit war crimes in WWII
>the Soviets absolutely did not commit war crimes in WWII or any other atrocities in the preceding and subsequent decade

>nah he was pretty chill
He was a crazed warmongerer.
t. italian

>moral relativists

The one group of people you can rob, rape or murder without feeling bad, because they probably did something bad too.