When I see a ''powerlifter'' squatting low bar with a belt, knee sleeves...

why do people always hate on lowbar? I recently switched from highbar to lowbar and it's comfy as fuck
can squat more weight too

People (especially on Veeky Forums) are always looking for a way to disqualify other peoples achievements, regardless of how minor.

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i always read shit about how high bar is more suitable for athletes
i don't think they understand how important the posterior chain is for rugby players/sprinters etc

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thats what deadlifts are for

In-season athletes generally aren't going to be doing conventional deadlifts.

I lost at the "$30 shirt with stupid quote".
I have an arsenal of fancy work out clothes from when I used to box, but when I lift weights, I literally go wearing whatever I am while I'm slouching around at home. People always give me weird looks because I show up wearing hi top vans, an oversize t shirt and joggers, then I outlift the fuck out of everyone there. Feels good.

Because they're faggots who think they don't need to change.

I think most people who don't do their homework start out doing high bar because it's the one that feels more intuitive. When they then start to make shitty progress after the 100kg mark and see people who low bar speeding past them, they get buttmad. Instead of just looking at a youtube clip of how to do low bar and joining us here in Gains Central.

youtube.com/watch?v=nLVJTBZtiuw

I dont squat lowbar like that you dont squat highbar like that

Rekd

>that faggot nu male with orange died hair and a pedo mustache that uses women's weights

>that roider who is shredded and huge in summer and half my size in winter that lifts babyweights

>women doing everything wrong yet still looking good cause they only have not to be fat

>people that use the cardio equipment at very low intensities

>people that use belts for anything other than squatting 180kg+ or deadlifting 220kg+

>people that use straps for anything other than deadlifting 180kg+

>people that squat in running shoes

>people that use the smith machine

>people that say "they'll push out 6 reps for sure" when you spot them at bench, then push out 2 and you half to curl with them the rest

>that loud "boxer" that never shuts the fuck up with his "tough guy" act to his shitty acquaintances

>the fat manlet crossfitter that does shadow kung-fu between sets and argues biochemistry with you while not knowing shit about shit

list goes on, i literally hate everything at my gym apart from 4-5 people

I think you got the belt and straps thing mixed up. I not lifting above 180 without a belt. I dont use straps and have a 1rm at 220. I do use chalk however

Don't trigger the porkerlifters m8, just let them live in their little low bar bubble.

>Comparing powerlifting squats to correctly performed lowbar squats.

I could explain why the lax judging standards of powerlifting federations leads to shit like this, or why just because world-class olympic lifters can squat a lot with high bar doesn't make them 'better' because olympic lifters can squat a lot with fucking anything. But I won't. Because you either know that already, or you're a complete mong.

More the lax judging standards of one powerlifting federation in particular.

aahahha PL btfo

Kek everytime
Seriously though, I do lowbar and frontsquats
That geared shit is aweful

Explain this pls

Almost all of those powerlifting examples are from the SPF, which is notoriously loose on its judging (not just on squatting, but those are the most common/obvious). Loose enough that the sites that track overall powerlifting records periodically disavow their numbers. Technically its rules are the same (more or less) as other feds - must break parallel, no foot movement, etc - but they were and are terrible at actually enforcing them.

Bad lifts happen but most feds aren't like that. If anything the IPF tends too hard in the other direction and shuts out legit lifts on a fairly regular basis.

The weird-arse wide stance is a separate thing. That's an artefact of them squatting in suits, which change the movement a hell of a lot.

>that guy who after I've been warming up for 10+ minutes just comes in and goes straight to the good squat rack right before I was just gonna start using it

I once read that a top level powerlifter remarked that, in a bench shirt, you basically "can't even get less than 300lbs to your chest at a certain point, because less weight than that and you'd have to row it down"

Any truth to that?

>the fat manlet crossfitter that does shadow kung-fu between sets and argues biochemistry with you while not knowing shit about shit
Sounds pretty specific.

You have a story?

>10 minute warm-up

No

I wouldn't mind women if they stuck to the cardio machines. But when they take up space and evertone else's time by doing shit like bench presses and dead lifts I start to have an aneurysm.

Yes.

It depends on the shirt, how you're wearing it and how tight it is but there's definitely a point at which the weight just isn't going to come down. And yes, getting the bar to touch in the right place at the right time is definitely a skill in a bench shirt.

The result of which is an awful lot of new gear lifters buying a top of the line shirt, cranking it as much as possible and then bombing at the meet because nothing they can actually handle is going to get within six inches of their chest.

Because if someone is better than you it's really not because they're better than you but because of cheating. That way weak shits spare their fragile ego.

belt is completely unnecessary. you will just lift extra weight due to the back support

but i'm talking about faggots that curl 20kg with a belt, or faggots that wear straps during their whole workout because at some point they have to row 60kg or some shit

there's this fat manlet neckbeard, you know the type that tries to be the center of attention and sound cool but his whole body screams insecurities? he tried to argue with me about crossfit, but in the end he agreed it's dangerous and wrong, then he tried to argue with me about human physiology which i study in uni.

he also does "matrial arts", like that isn't the red flag for "i have low self-esteem". and out of all of them, he does the most neckbeard thing of all, fucking kung-fu

generally my gym is a cesspit of idiots. i can number 2-3 people that are either i) ottermode whole year round, and their work-out is aimed at that while staying natty and ii) one powerlifter that occasionally comes because the only powerlifting gym here is on the other side of the city

everyone else is either dyel, roiding with babyweights, or a woman. funny thing is its 3 times better than my old gym

I'm a random dyel looking gymrat.

210kg x2 without anything.

>@75kg bw
>184-185cm tall

>when i see a highbar shitter proud of his sub 4pl8 squat
>load up 5pl8s next to him and rep it out
>"b-b-but i dont use a belt"

Jeez that's nuts. Any videos of these failures?

>women blocking the squat rack doing the bar only
>they think they will get a big booty

can they just fuck off to the legpress, smith machine or do BW squats?

Vid big boy.

Not that I can be bothered digging up. But its possible to fail to touch with an absolute fuckton on the bar. Here's Ryan Kennelly - who's a bench monster regardless of gear - having a fight with three 1000+ attempts in full gear and demonstrating the wide range of ways to fail.

youtube.com/watch?v=PSRqi9QGggo

>people that say "they'll push out 6 reps for sure" when you spot them at bench, then push out 2 and you half to curl with them the rest

kek

>tfw you help them at the 3rd rep and then lift the bar into the rack

thats why i warm up in the squat rack between doing my warm up sets

>people that say "they'll push out 6 reps for sure" when you spot them at bench, then push out 2 and you half to curl with them the rest
Fuck you and every other person that touches the bar or hovers around the fucking bar when I'm benching. Stop curling the weight for them stroking their egos and teaching them how to spot incorrectly.

>women
>old people
90% of all problems would disappear

you change your stats every day
how's your 55kg pullup session going?

>tfw you help them at the 3rd rep and then lift the bar into the rack

that's what i do. i even tell them "there's no point if i lift them for you, just lower the weight"

they never do that of course, they just call someone else. best part is when the guy helps them from the 1st rep, then after the 6th assisted one he goes "woah man you had 2 more easily"

>Ask a guy for a spot on bench.
>Literally 5x5 weight 95 kgs easy as fuck.
>This guy shouts and makes noises like fucking Macho Man Randy Savage
I understand that he was trying to hype me up but it just threw me off so much, still finished my sets I suppose.

Lmfaoooooo

you misunderstand me friend, they WANT me to touch the bar and curl the weights. they want to be able to say "i bench this much for 8 reps" while they can do 3 by themselves

i never touch the bar if i'm not told. i do hover in the last reps, and that's because one time it actually saved my bro from snapping his neck since his arms failed suddenly and i had to catch the barbell in the air, but i never touch it

Oh sorry dude, thought you meant they do 2 reps and then you curl the last 4 with them.

Yeah had people like in my old gym that and guy told me off for not having my hand on the bar when he was benching.

Every Friday night this guy comes in with his girlfriend. The woman at least dresses in gym gear and does some proper exercise, but this fucking guy turns up in skinny jeans and a long sleeve shirt, leg presses 3 plate and does some kind of odd squatting motion in the smith machine where he presses himself as hard as he can against the bar at an angle

I seriously do not get this fucking guy.

>Yeah had people like in my old gym that and guy told me off for not having my hand on the bar when he was benching

one time in my old gym a guy started shouting at me because i "didn't help him", meaning i didn't curl the weight. when i told him that it's wrong to do that and that he should lower the weight, he told me he's gonna do whatever the fuck he wants and i can either help him do it his way or not. at this point i stopped responding and told him whatever u feel like m8, after which he approached me 3 times saying something like "do you understand why you fucked me?". 3rd time i told him to get the fuck out of my face, then my friend told him in the lockers he should apologize which he did

never saw him around after that. that gym was full of fucking hicks, the stories i have from there i could fill a whole thread with

170kg isn't really special either mate

>Belt is unnecessary
>You will just lift extra weight

Are you fucking retarded? What if you need strong legs for weightlifting or a sport, why would you not use the belt to get more weight on the bar?

Sure, a belt shouldn't be a crutch but you're fucking dumb and probably dyel if you think they're useless.

in for lowbar being comfy as fuckkkkkk

in for knee sleeves feeling like you're squatting with marshmallows around your knees

in for belts making your bracing better

in for wrist wraps allowing you to squat over 4pl8 without wanting to chop your arms off

in for OP hating on a bunch of fun stuff he's never tried

why would you want strong legs but a weak core? you're an idiot

A belt isn't going to weaken your core.

no, but it will create an imbalance between your core and your legs, your core is gonna be weaker than your legs

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Nope.

A belt increases abdominal activation during the lift. You'll have a stronger core from squatting/deadlifting belted than without (although this comes at the cost of slightly decreased oblique usage).

you have no idea how a belt works, but it's ok

try lifting the same weight you lift belted without a belt, see what happens

It's you who don't know how belts work, he's right.
Please educate yourself: strengtheory.com/the-belt-bible/

How long did it take you to get used to the switch?

I just hit 330 high bar earlier this week, but my form is kind of shitty and I want to try switching to low bar.

suh twinklex

You clearly have no clue how a belt works. It literally optimizes your ab activation, go sell your bro science somewhere else moron.

> those 2 gymbros that occupy the squat rack for an hour and do 1pl8 half rep squats

Hey, not much. Just ate breakfast. Gonna shower and go play some ping pong soon. Probably drank too much beer last night..

You are a fucking imbecile holy shit

have some (you)s you dyel fuck. like i said, there is no difference between a belt and knee wraps and all that shit. you either lift raw, or you don't. with this line of logic, why not wear deadlift suits?

have fun with your training wheels for lifting

Post vid of your squat big boy let us see your strength.

This is bait.

i squat 180kg x2, with a knee injury kiddo

i'm not elite powerlifter, but i prolly outlift you

I curl more than that you fucking DYEL.

Good job on your sub-2x bodyweight assisted """"squat"""" fatass.

I just wear the belt so my guts don't come out where my balls should be. Is that wrong?

No you didn't.

>180kgx2
>Impressive

Lmao

moar

>people that squat in running shoes
that's me senpai

I'm getting new shoes soon bruh...

Reminder

youtube.com/watch?v=nLVJTBZtiuw

how much do you squat atg?

At a weight of 70kg-75kg? Atg?
>inb4 roided lifters

>old dude on steroids that comes in every day
>he does 1/5th rom on every lift with ridiculously heavy weights for his age
>has wraps on every joint on his body
>most likely roiding cause he's fucking 65 pushing 70
>one day disappears, turns out he got kicked
>turns out he has been hospitalized from injuries ranging from tendon tears to dislocations 4-5 times
>daughter in law came in begging the gym to kick him before he broke a hip or some shit

i don't know what went on in his fucking head, but the way he was lifting looked like he was suicidal

>one time squatted 3plate, left the plates on the fucking barbell and left
>gym had only 2 barbells
>that's it, enough of this old cunt
>go to the press where he was pressing a zillion kgs for 1/8th rom
>tell him to come help me unload (not that i needed it the help) because he left 6 plates on the barbell
>reluctantly and clearly angrily, he comes to help

i hated that fucking guy

have a lot more stories from that gym, including how i got kicked when it slowly started disfranchising the lifters and turning into a chick gym

might greentext it after i eat

why don't you go buy some counterfeit all-stars in the farmer's market? they cost like 5 euros tops

Moar plz.
I go to a old school bodybuilding gym that never has problems. For 15$ a month

170kg at 70kg is above intermediate m8, don't let Veeky Forums tell you otherwise

most fucks in this thread can't even do that much, or are permafat "powerlifters"

You cant possibly be 75kg, im 80 and you are waaaay gatter than me, same height btw

Why would powerlifters go ATG
and no one is impressed by your squat

>non-IPF
They're a joke to us too

215kg

>40-45 year old guy
>family dude, pleasant to be around
>has an okish body, 18% fat with a bit of mass
>his routine is garbage, he does some some 6day brosplit or some shit
>his workouts are literally 30mins of biceps A, 30 mins of back exercises B, etc
>never thought much of it, because his musclemass wasn't that impressive and he never was lean

now in hindsight, compared to his ridiculous workout routines, was big

>fast forward 6 months
>ask a dude that i've been hanging out with recently where the 45yr old guy was
>hadn't seen him around lately
>turns out he was roiding his ass off
>he hid the roids in said friend's house so his family didn't find out
>he eventually stopped roiding, and stopped lifting all-together
>he literally thought everyone was roiding, everyone was lying about it
>he thought there was no point in lifting without roiding and he couldnt make any gains natty

funniest thing is he looked like a skinnyfat would after 8-10months of bulking on huge dosages of tren/test/dian. all that roiding while lifitng 30mins a day and eating his wife's homecooking 40g of protein a day meals

and how much do you weight?

Right now, 93kg.

bc its just an autistic deadlift

>that fat wannabe powerlifting teenager drinking some blue substance from a gallon water jug labeled "hater tears" in black marker
>mfw he belts up to bench less than 2 plates for struggling singles