Why don't you train your social skills instead? It will last longer than muscles and will bring more profit overall

Me on the right

>Except if you're socially retarded and no amount of exposure improves your traits.
Fuck....

guys how do you find time to do any other things when you spend AT LEAST 6 hours a week at a specific activity?
Not only that, youre also eating food. How do you even have time for a job??

You can learn socially skills and become less "socially retarded". Just like you can train your muscles from being shaky and barely able to bench 65lbs to pushing well over 225

High art (literature, kino, video games) will expand your horizon, personality and everything that some define as the soul. That is more worthy. Of course, lifting has valuable experiences, but it often closes the practitioners mind to other stimuli, which is why so many swole dudes have underdeveloped world views

Came back to this. What (social) jobs would somebody recommend to fix this? Part time plez.

>Why don't you train your social skills instead?

Looking good makes it easier to train your social skills because people automatically have a better impression of attractive people.

To add to this user, doing hobbies such as dance (I do ceroc and have found it amazing), getting involved with specific types of communities (kink for example if you're that way inclined) and doing bar crawls (in my city various bars organise them on different days and it's a great way to meet people).

>(I do ceroc and have found it amazing)
What's that like?

>but it often closes the practitioners mind to other stimuli, which is why so many swole dudes have underdeveloped world views

Does it really close their views? Or does it just improve their lives?

What if those "swole dudes" were going to be boring, lazy bastards but now they're SWOLE boring, lazy bastards? What if lifting didn't really change anything about their personality but rather make them look better and make them stronger?

>High art (literature, kino, video games)
>Videogames
No they won't

Also I already do all that.

I:
>Lift
>Work full-time
>Read financial news
>Read books(fiction and non-fiction alike)
>Do reading about economics and finance
>Do programming in my free time
>Watch University lectures on youtube for fun

Is my "soul" sufficient to you? Lifting doesn't seem to stop any of that, you have plenty of hours in a week to do things.

Why do you think that if you lift you don't do any of that?

People who lift can do all these things, and people who DON'T lift can also do *NONE* OF THESE THINGS. Is that hard to get?

You're just playing the wrong vidya

>You're just playing the wrong vidya

Videogames are a waste of time for losers. Let me guess, you only play Civ 5 and other turn-based strategy games and "expand your mind"?

Don't get me wrong, I work out for a joocy booty, but I just think a lot of people get caught up in the shallow philosophy of physical self improvement, dat pump, keep going breh, leave hoomanity behind!
I think it's ultimately stifling

>but I just think a lot of people get caught up in the shallow philosophy of physical self improvement, dat pump, keep going breh, leave hoomanity behind!

But the people who do that are STILL benefiting from lifting.

You just seem to hold "lifters" to a higher standard. Those same people could have been losers in those areas as well but also have bad bodies, makes no difference.

How would those expand your mind? They're literally complex board games.
Most recently The Witcher 3: Hearts of Stone. It had a really interesting spin on faustian mythology, bringing it into a more modern context. You'd be hard pressed to find such a well thought out, quality reimagination of classical literature in books or film in the last few years

Why wouldn't I hold them to a higher standard? Most people don't spend hours on bettering themselves at all

>high art (... video games)
I'd say I stopped reading but I didn't stop and it was two lines anyway
I wouldn't say that lifting
>closes the practitioners mind to other stimuli
because I don't feel like it's the case most of the times
I'm homegym masterrace and I often read prose and poetry between working sets since I'm resting like 5, 6, 7 minutes anyway and what better there is to do, when I was more into literary studies there were times when I got off the binch, hit the stoper not to rest for too much, went back to reading that one essay and sat by the desk with pencil in my hand and kept underlining the more important parts, taking notes and so on

I get it that it takes not only lifting to develop oneself and you gotta make them brain gains too but CMON, lifting is a good thing to do, if, at the time you're browsing Veeky Forums, you absolutely must be convincing someone to start experiencing high culture, you have plenty of better targets as there are lots of people who don't do anything for themselves

Good lord
I almost agreed with you up until this post

I guess I just take issue with certain cultures around lifting. Because there are equal or better things to do, so just because you lift doesn't mean you've covered all areas, even if lifting is certainly worthwhile

T-that was my first post

>Why wouldn't I hold them to a higher standard?

Because it makes no sense. Why don't you hold everyone to a higher standard then?

This shit really reminds me of the fight fags who say stuff like "You're 6' 220 lbs but you can't beat me in a fight? haha what a joke" but they don't remember that they're not lifting for fighting and as far as fighting is considered they're the same as a 6' 160lb sedentary person.

>not improving your mind AND body
>it's not important to treat the only permanent residence you'll ever live in as the temple that it is
>staying healthy and active won't make you live longer than unhealthy slobs
>being fit won't improve confidence and make life any more worth living
Having a good social life is important, but it is also wasted on the slob. Begone, pleb.

>you waste about 3 years to get muscles wich dessapear in a month if you stop
no they don't
do you even lift?

time to check the mirror

If you treat your body as a temple don't be surprised when a gallic warrior band raids you for some sweet booty user

>train social skills

YOU FUCKING RETARD THAT REQUIRES OTHER PEOPLE.

THERE'S A FUCKING REASON I LIFT, ITS BECAUSE I CAN DO IT BY MYSELF WITHOUT RELYING ON ANYONE ELSE, I WOULD HAVE PICKED A TEAM SPORT IF I ACTUALLY WANTED TO RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE.

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD YOU FUCKING NORMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Healthy Mind, Healthy Body, Healthy Soul

you realize "social skills" are 100% useless unless you look good, right?

the best possible thing you can do is work on getting more fit. ALL first impressions are physical.

also this shit is irrelevant.

Are you talking about the losers on this board?
Most people that post frogs and wojaks on Veeky Forums have never lifted beyond 3 months of SS.

They're just stupid NEETs

Example A:

> there are people in fit right now who believes life is totally scales linearly
> literally believes if spending 10 hr/week on social gains, spending 20 hours will double those gains
> can't even conceive the possibility that returns diminish so the best strategy is to diversify one's time
> these are the idiots giving you advice

Op, please graduate high school first before you make any more retarded threads on here

This x 100000000000000000.

When I was a DYEL fattie I got zero anything.

Fast-forward a few years of lifting and cutting, and suddenly I get treated completely different, despite just being as autistic.

>years
Can you go with months?

wot

How many years of lifting did it take you to shred the autism m8?

The autism never goes, but the confidence from looking good and feeling good overrides and helps

Taking the perk in Veeky Forums gives you an instant +1 to charisma. You need to use some of your EXP on charisma as well though otherwise it will cost too much to buy that rifle that does higher DMG.

>I'm famous on Veeky Forums for my avatars.
Kek

>oh look its the one guy from before
I said I was famous on cow. Remember it next time you'll be seeing a lot of me.

How long have you been working out?

>someone saved that image to their phone

...

Are there any social clubs or meet up groups in your area?

...

Exactly

>lowtest porn addict cuck numale summerfag dyels detected

Trying way too hard mate. Gr8 b8 tho.

>You can simply acquire them trough exposure. Except if you're socially retarded and no amount of exposure improves your traits.
no such thing as socially retarded.
they are just retarded people

you're reaching for straws in defense of these nasty hoes

culture is the essence of the illusion that humanity matters.

Caution: You got trolled on summerbitch. Do not pass GO, do not collect $100. Better luck next summer dyel. Thanks for playing.

You can do both you fucking idiot. But making up excuses for not getting in the best physical shape possible is childish. It honestly depresses me that so many "men" will live out their lives never seeing what their body is capable of AND to top that off they actually take some misguided pride in it. Its pathetic and i feel sorry for you.

>Its pathetic and i feel sorry for you.

got a gf?

I was like you user and here's what you have to realize, you're just making up bullshit excuses. By saying, "I don't have any friends to go out with so I can't meet new people" you're basically the same as people who say, "there isn't a gym close enough to me so I can't get stronger". In the latter, you build a home gym or do what you can (bodyweight exercises). The former is no different, literally go up to people and talk to them. See a guy at the gym wearing a shirt of a band you know? Talk to him. See a girl looking at a book by an author you like? Talk to her. You'd be surprised how receptive people are to making new friends.

Nope don't need one.

>civ 5
Are you a pleb or something?

I play dwarf fortress alpha

>What if I both have a good career, friends/gf AND I also look good and lift hard?
Because you use up too many points in character creation.

taller than 186cm/6'1?

Hva efun talking to girls like that while beeing ugly and unfit but super social. I tell you how much you get from life beeing social but ugly and unfit. Nothing. It will spit in your face, build a pyramid on your back and shit on your grave. Go get fit and get a plastic surgery and talk about life and how social skills matter, I dare you fagot.

Because there are no set instructions or routines for socialisation. Wether you go to snap city or not is always your fault, but wether someone likes you or not isn't always.

>implying I can't socialize like a normal human
>implying everyone on Veeky Forums is an actual autism, not just most

There are so many reasons to lift besides impressing other people.

>I could lose my virginity f if I wanted to. I just don't want to. Men go their own way ya know!

>thinking you are worth more or better than other people
watch out with that edge

how fucking shallow are you to think that the only thing every male on this planet wants is to get a gf and get laid?
your reach in life is pathetic, off yourself

Turbo autist here - I'm realizing I sorta like this girl who I've sorta known for a couple years. We bumped into each other a week and a half ago after a while and it was chill. She's liked some things in fb since, so I'm gonna message her. It's funny, I was never really interested in her until I saw her that last time, - I had liked her friend for a long while, that went horribly.

Should I just throw a what's up outta the blue? I'll be seeing her probably this Friday when our friend has an art show.

I've only had trap bfs for the past few years, so interacting with a real girl makes me anxious. What's the sorta social cues I should pick up?

>becoming Veeky Forums made me attractive to girls
>still too fucking pussy to make a move even tho the clubgirls are clearly showing interest

Its a mixed kind of feel

>High art
>video games

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>will expand ... everything that some define as the soul
>that is more worthy
>lifting ... often closes the practitioners mind to other stimuli, which is why so many swole dudes have underdeveloped world views

This has to be bait and yet it's so hard not to reply

>friends made plans while I was having an introvert-need-alone-time-for-a-month attack
>heard about it last minute got invited and decided to join and suggested we at least get drinks (the next morning they have a boat trip to catch which I can't go to)
>probably our last weekend together as I will be moving soon anyways
>we all have to drive 6 hours to this city and I will only be staying the first night for drinks.
>"friends" will drive 3-4 hours behind me (I wanted to check in to my hotel earlier)
>I waited for them downtown last night and the last I heard of them was when they were 2 hours away at around 10pm-ish
>thinking they ditched me
>but then the drinking part was my idea, not theirs so I'm thinkin it's not their fault

Do I have a right to get butt hurt? A part of me is saying that they could've texted that they can't make it but a more rational part of me is saying that they are tired and have a boat to catch and they were not interested in drinking to begin with.

shouldve just stayed home and lifted

You have every right to be upset about them not letting you know. If they weren't up for drinks they could have told you. Since they agreed, they also have the obligation to cancel the plans by texting you. Not contacting you is a dick move

You don't need to say that it's example A if you're not going to put an example B. It's just presented as example.

>fucking reeeeeeeee, as it were.

It pisses me off that so many guys will live their life never reaching there full potential. Never jabbing 100mg/75mg of tren ace/test e into their arse every 2 days. Never looking full juicy. Never, ever being able to consider themselves a man.

I feel sorry for them.

Pulling shit like that is a millennial thing. It seems to be happening with more frequency.

What would be the "grown up" response to this? A part of me wants to curse them out or w/e

But quite honestly, I had a great time and met a few cool people.

D-don't sperg out on them. Be a sport man, act like they missed out.

And that is worth preserving.
If it acts like a bait and looks like a vait, in so n e way, it probably is a bait. But all the best baits have a grain of truth to them my friends