Russia investigates if the Romanov's were killed in a Jewish ritual

Don't forget Vera Figner.

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She did nothing.

(spoiler)It's reference to the previous thread(/spoiler)

>the same jew who trolls these threads playing Jewish defense force

>can't even deny it was the Jews who killed the Romanovs, can only try to spread the blame to others

Apart from Yurovski, who were other Jews in the squad?

>spread the blame to others
Because if it was a Jewish ritual murder then why non-Jews participated in it? Yurovsky ordered the execution of Romanovs because he was a communist, not because he was a Jew.

guess the proof is the dude's name, yakov = jacob but this "proof" is not valid for a name from the one and only orthodox martyrology calendar every plowman used for naming his kids.

They were Nickie's and Alexandar's babies though, so nothing false with that statement

Oh yes, the jew grandma that organized the family killing.

thank you for the input

Tricked by the Jew Jacob Sverdlov, first President of the Soviet Union, who sent his aide the Jew, Yankel Yakovlev, to Tobolsk to persuade Tzar Nicholas II to agree to sanction the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty. Nicholas refused but was unaware it was a trap to lure him back to Moscow. Shortly after him and the royal family left.

>They got as far as Ekaterinburg in the Urals where the train was halted by the Regional Soviets dominated by four Jews, Goloshchekin, Safarov, Voikov and Syromolotov. These four communist Jews appointed the Jew, Jacob Yurovsky, as the head the local Cheka in Ekaterinburg (what a coincidence). Yurovsky was given the assignment to imprison and then assassinate the Romanov Royal Family.
Jews who assisted Yurovsky-
>Philip Golochtchekine
>Pavel Medvedev
>Nikulin, Yermakov, Vaganov

Ermakovs first name was Pyotr

>Philip Golochtchekine
>Pavel Medvedev
>Nikulin, Yermakov, Vaganov

Again, you need to provide evidence. Your word alone has worth of a cowfart.

Sounds like something a holocaust denier would say

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPTTT

>Jacob Sverdlov
Was secretary, not president, and even then did nothing but serve as a figurehead. The real power was with Lenin.

This is from Trotsky diary

My next visit to Moscow took place after the [temporary] fall of Ekaterinburg [to anti-Communist forces]. Speaking with Sverdlov, I asked in passing: "Oh yes, and where is the Tsar?"

"Finished," he replied. "He has been shot."

"And where is the family?"

"The family along with him."

"All of them?," I asked, apparently with a trace of surprise.

"All of them," replied Sverdlov. "What about it?" He was waiting to see my reaction. I made no reply.

"And who made the decision?," I asked.

"We decided it here. Ilyich believed that we shouldn't leave the Whites a live banner to rally around, especially under the present difficult circumstances."

I asked no further questions and considered the matter closed.

Since this thread is inevitably doomed to be cancer, I'm just gonna improve it by dropping my drawfag request here.

Pregnant Anne Frank, pregnant Rutka Laskier, and pregnant Anastasia holding each other protectively while being guarded against the approaching silhouettes of a Stalhelm and Budenovka by John C. Calhoun armed with a sword and shield marked "States' Rights" and "Nullification" respectively.

Oh yes Trotsky, another Jew responsible for this notorious children killing, ty for reminding us

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fucking died of keking

>Russia digs up the old fashioned blood libel
Even their antisemitism is a century behind

romanovs deserved it desu

>extremist Russian Orthodox bishops heading the investigation

Lol

Same Orthodox church that refuses to let the family be buried together, and refuses to reunite Maria and Alexei with the rest of their family.

Also all the "evidence" for it being a ritual is literally just basic revolutionary discourse. Yeah, everyone wanted to be "the one" to kill the tsar.. not because EVIL JEWISH RITUAL MURDER but because the tsar was the ultimate symbol of the corruption of imperial russian, and bragging rights for being "the one" to end it would be coveted as fuck.

But y'know

DA

JOOOOOS

This'll send the leftards into a tizzy.

>being this naive
He was a communist because he was a jew

>dailymail

Kerensky was against the Bolshies and is said to have been a Jew

Are Russians the new dindus?
>Execute Tsar & his senpai.
WE DINDU IT!
>Holodomor policies
WE DINDU IT!
>Send soldiers into Ukraine
WE DINDU IT!

>Russians

>Born and raised in Russia
>Spoke the language
>Lived most or all his life there
>Not Russian

Man being Russian must be hard.

Americans call people they don't like as "Terrorists." Meanwhile, Russians have a choice between "Nazi," "Jew," or "Terrorist."

Not ethnically Russian, not religiously Orthodox, not culturally Russian. Not a Russian.
A Jew.

Not Jewish in the slightest

The Tsar and his family were ethnically German, do they also not count as Russian?

By that logic any Russian who does not adhere to the Orthodox faith isn't a Russian.
By that logic the Tsar wasn't a fucking Russian.
And how can you say he wasn't culturally Russian? He was literally raised in Russian culture his entire life. But I guess you storm faggots just love to make up ways to blame muh Jews for everything.

>literally a Jew
>acknowledging he is a Jew
>arguing semantics while attempting to redefine identity without any clear and logical reasoning behind it
>kneejerk stormfag insults
>ignoring (or simply historically illiterate) the lengthy antagonism the Romanov dynasty had against Jews

It's threads like these that are why I don't go to this board anymore.

That and you're a filthy weab

Mate your the one arguing semantics to make a guy born and raised in Russian culture to be something entirely seperate from that to feed your conspiracies about the Jews being behind everything you don't like.
I could pull the same shit out of my ass to explain that the Irish are behind the everything bad in the US.

Also
>lengthy antagonism the Romanovs had against the Jews
>Why are they flocking to anti-Tsarist organisations :DDD

>I could pull the same shit out of my ass to explain that the Irish are behind the everything bad in the US.

You mean like how NBF does every Saint Patrick's Day?

Never forget how the Irish in the US managed to fool the taxpayers into sending 100 billion to Ireland since it's inception.

>Jews behind everything I don't like
>Jews behind the Russian, Hungarian, Germany, and South African communist revolutions and takeovers
>Jews behind the academic change from race recognization
>Jews behind the mass emigration of non-whites to the US, into South Africa and Europe.
>Jews behind every major Middle Eastern war in the last 50 years which has caused the mass influx of migrants into Europe

Jewsish bolsheviks were a disguisting, fascist breed

>South African communist take over
Nigga what.

oh

>tfw you can't admit your fap figure fucking shit up this much, so you need to involve caballa and ritual sacrifices

Monarchicucks deserve everything bad happening to them. Especially the fuckers from Russia, who, en masse, just bought their "noble ancestry".

>bayonetted Romanov babies

Why, you think monarchicucks and the church always portray Alexey as a toddler while this fucker was in a perfect age for fucking the maids at the household?

>he doesn't know
The ANC is a communist party which was created and funded by the Jews seeking to deconstruct the white powerbase there.

>Lazar Sidelsky, the South African-born son of refugees from Lithuania, grew up in the Transvaal highlands. By the early 1940s, he was partner in one of Johannesburg’s biggest law firms, where he ran a program helping black South African immigrants get mortgages. One day in 1942, an ANC member named Walter Sisulu brought in Nelson Mandela, then 24, whom Sidelsky hired as an articled clerk, enabling Mandela to qualify as an attorney—a radical move for an established firm at the time. “It was a Jewish firm,” Mandela later wrote in his memoir, Long Walk to Freedom, “and in my experience I have found Jews to be more broad-minded than most whites on issues of race and politics, perhaps because they themselves have historically been victims of prejudice.” Mandela worked at Sidelsky’s firm while earning a B.A. by mail order and later while studying law at Wits. In 1952, Sidelsky loaned Mandela seed money to start South Africa’s first black law practice.

>Nat Bregman, a cousin of Lazar Sidelsky, became a clerk at Sidelsky’s firm the year before Mandela joined. The building had segregated elevators, but Bregman, a member of the Communist Party, rode with Mandela on the one reserved for blacks. In his memoir, Mandela describes Bregman—“Natie”—as his first white friend. Bregman schlepped his skeptical friend to Communist get-togethers in the early years of their friendship—gatherings populated almost entirely by blacks and Jews—but while Mandela was impressed by the “lively and gregarious group of people who did not seem to pay attention to color at all,” he later wrote that he was put off by the Party’s “antipathy to religion”

The whole "Jews using minorities and communism to deconstruct white nations" is a reality.

>Also all the "evidence" for it being a ritual is literally just basic revolutionary discourse

Worse. Someone (don't remember exact name, he was from emigration), took off the picrelated and pulled out of his ass the "Here we stand, Jews, showing the world that we killed the Tar and will kill everyone for the world of Israel" or something like that.

>Arthur Goldreich was born in 1929 to a family proud to belong to the Anglo-Jewish elite. At the school he attended in the northern Transvaal province, a German-language instructor once passed out Hitler Youth magazines, prompting young Arthur to write to Prime Minister Jan Smuts asking permission to be taught Hebrew instead—a wish Smuts granted. Goldreich began studying architecture, but in May 1948—the same month the National Party won parliamentary elections, commencing the era of official apartheid in South Africa—he sailed to Israel on a small boat to join the Palmach (the Israeli Haganah special forces, often used to crush Palestinian rebellions). In 1954, he returned to South Africa and joined the underground Communist Party. A notorious dandy, Goldreich wore tweeds and riding boots and hung around the polo club, but it was all a cover: Goldreich’s Gatsby-like persona allowed him to travel the world raising money for the ANC and provided the perfect cover for purchasing a farm outside Johannesburg from which the ANC’s militia wing, the Umkhonto we Sizwe—translated as “Spear of the Nation”—could plan and execute a campaign of violence against the state. Mandela moved to the farm, called Liliesleaf, in 1961, disguising himself as a gardener.

>Why people don't like working their asses of and dying in a gutter for the cuck and his hysterical wife?
> THEY MUST BE JEWS!

Commies did nothing wrong. The only treatment infantile monarchicuck understands is the bayonet to the face.

>Harold Wolpe, an early member of the Socialist-Zionist youth project, befriended Mandela and other activists while studying law at Wits and became one of Mandela’s primary lawyers beginning with the seminal 1955 political summit, the Congress of the People—filing a lawsuit to bar the police from the premises—to Mandela’s final arrest about a year before the raid on the Liliesleaf farm, when Wolpe himself was detained before escaping with Goldreich. Wolpe settled in England and became a sociologist, writing a highly influential 1972 paper, “Capitalism and Cheap Labour-Power in South Africa,”.

I honestly think the communist Jews were vetting Mandela as their front for the deconstruction of the South African government.

>Yossel Mashel Slovo, known as Joe, joined the Communist Party in 1942 and then lied about his age to join the South African army, with which he fought in Italy against the fascist forces. After the war, Slovo became active in the radical Springbok Legion veterans’ association and studied law at Wits, where he met Mandela. Just before graduating, he married Ruth First, the daughter of a Communist Party leader. “We took off half an hour from our respective offices to get married,” he later wrote in an unfinished autobiography, according to the recent book Ruth First and Joe Slovo in the War Against Apartheid. Their home served as a center for radical organizing, discussion, and parties. When the police conducted one of their regular searches of the house in the 1950s, they confiscated a copy of Stendhal’s The Red and the Black solely because of the title. Indeed, Joe was the primary link between the Communist Party and ANC in the late 1950s and was Mandela’s partner in organizing the Umkhonto we Sizwe militia. Both Slovo and First were arrested and prosecuted in the Treason Trial of 1956, which was partially conducted in a converted Pretoria synagogue—the only record of either First or Slovo having ever entered one. Abroad at the time of the Liliesleaf raid in 1963, Slovo was eventually joined in London by First and their children. Though in his early years he was an ardent Stalinist—much more so than First—by the late 1980s Slovo had become more critical of “socialism without democracy.” Returning to the country in 1990 after Mandela was released and the prohibition on the Communist Party was lifted, Slovo crafted the power-sharing agreement credited with making the transition to majority (now increasingly black African) rule.

>mandela was employed by a jew
>this means that jews destroyed the white power base.

>Ruth First was born in 1925 to Latvian immigrants who had helped found South Africa’s Communist Party. The first in her family to attend college, First—described by her best friend as “sharp-tongued and shy”—founded the Progressive Students’ League at Wits, where she also befriended Mandela, whom she later described as “good-looking, very proud, very dignified, very prickly, rather sensitive, perhaps even arrogant.” Often compared to Rosa Luxembourg for her devotion to the struggle, First edited and wrote for various radical newspapers throughout the 1940s and 1950s, and was active in revolutionary politics. In 1963, First was arrested at the Wits library and endured a four-month detention, which she wrote about in a memoir, 117 Days. First’s Xhosa comrades called her yimazi ephah neenkati—a mare that keeps up with the stallions.

>literally a cuck name

Wow, way to read the first one and skip all the others.

>James Kantor was one of Johannesburg’s most famous lawyers in the 1950s. He wore English suits, drove American cars, and lived in a big house with a pool and a Portuguese chef. Described by First as a “socialite yachtsman,” Kantor dated models—until he married one, Barbara. But his sister was married to Harold Wolpe. Though Kantor claimed in his memoir not to know Wolpe was engaged in illegal activities—specifically, laundering money to help Goldreich purchase the Lilesleaf farm—he hired Wolpe at James Kantor & Partners, enough to make him accessory to the conspiracy, as far as the state was concerned. After the Rivonia raid, with Wolpe in jail, Kantor served as Mandela’s lawyer until he, too, was arrested—just after Goldreich and Wolpe’s escape. It was assumed by many in the movement that Kantor, who up until that point had not openly been a member of the resistance movement, was being held hostage until the escapees returned.

>Helen Suzman, née Gavronsky, was for many years the only member of the South African Parliament opposed to apartheid. She was frequently the target of sexist and anti-Semitic attacks— “Go back to Israel!” she was told, though she was born in the South African mining town of Germiston. Once, when a parliamentary colleague said her line of questioning was embarrassing the country. Exercising her parliamentary privileges, she paid eight visits to Mandela in prison, bringing international attention and legitimacy to his cause.

They were a Communist party
But became a Socialist/Social Democrat party.
By your logic, Mongolia is a Communist country you fucking retard.

>Jews helped bring down apartheid
So how does this make them the bad guys exactly?

Hmmm...

>Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi wrote in 1988 that the alliance between South Africa and Israel was one of the most underreported news stories of the past four decades and that Israel played a crucial role in the survival of the apartheid regime.[3]:108–109 Israel's collaboration with Apartheid South Africa was mentioned and condemned by various international organisations such as the UN General assembly (several times since 1974).[3]:114

Depends on whether you're white or not Moishe.

Ah the typical poltard retort of calling me Jewish
You're probably more Jewish than me, buddy.

Either way, was the black population of south africa supposed to accept being subject to discrimination from a minority because for some bullshit reason?

You know that Israel was the biggest partner of the apartheid South Africa? Even when everyone condemned the regime Israel still supported it.

>dude if you hate apartheid you aren't white lmao

Israel also supported Rhodesia but shhh we gotta ignore that to maintain our narrative.

>was one of the most underreported news stories of the past four decades

Guess who owns the media

>Israel played a crucial role in the survival of the apartheid regime.

Nah, Israel used South Africa for a time since it was limited in many areas, namely nuclear weapons development.

>From the mid-1970s, the two countries were allegedly involved in joint nuclear-weapons development and testing. According to Seymour Hersh, for example, the 1979 Vela Incident was the third joint Israeli–South African nuclear test in the Indian Ocean.

>Perhaps most sensitive was the large group of Israeli scientists working at South Africa's Pelindaba nuclear facility.

Access to nuclear engineering and materiel was necessary for Israel's secured future, and using South Africa's increasingly isolated position (which I've shown was engineered by Jews including ex-Israel military) they manipulated the country into serving their interests.

>which I've shown was engineered by Jews including ex-Israel military
You haven't shown shit. You named some Jews supporting anti-apartheid and that's it.

I fucking love this thread. First, the denial of Jewish collusion against white interests. Once it has been irrefutably established, then you have to flee tp some false moral high ground. Apartheid worked as a method to discourage rampant illegal emigration into South Africa by making it economically less than desirable. Since it's fall South Africa has led the western nations in exodus of whites from their home country.
Are the Palestinians supposed to accept being subject to discrimination from the Israelis because some bullshit reason?
If your interest is in supporting oppressed peoples why do I see endless attempts at exonerating Jews- but not one single thread about the suffering of the Palestinians?

>ITT

I named the leadership of the ANC being Jewish, the Jews who hand picked and built up Mandela, and the Jews who created the military terrorist wing Umkhonto we Sizwe by using Israeli Haganah training. I only mentioned the top ones, should I waste another 30 minutes bringing up every other single one, because there are hundreds more names.

Rhodesia had a sizable Jewish population and was supplying Israel with grain.

>Once it has been irrefutably established
But it wasn't.
>If your interest is in supporting oppressed peoples why do I see endless attempts at exonerating Jews
People respond to retarded /pol/ conspiracy theories. Normal people rarely make threads about defending Jews.

>conspiracy
Its laid out all itt.

What are white interests?
I'm white and my interests surely don't involve supporting the Tsar's autocracy and Apartheid South Africa

Your whole argument is that Jews are the ones behind every single movement you don't like, as if they aren't individuals but one cabal focused on destroying the white race or establishing Communism.
The truth is, Jews are people who flock to political movements like any other individual does.

I didn't say anything in support of Israel, we are talking about Jews, not Israel and news flash for you mate, not every Jew lives or even supports Israel.

Is this the whole leadership?

>The ANC was formed on 8 January 1912 by Saul Msane (Esq.), Josiah Gumede, John Dube, Pixley ka Isaka Seme and Sol Plaatje along with chiefs, people's representatives, and church organisations, and other prominent individuals to bring all Africans together as one people to defend their rights and freedoms

>Umkhonto we Sizwe
>notable commanders: Nelson Mandela, Oliver Tambo, Walter Sisulu, Joe Slovo, Lennox Lagu, Joe Modise, Chris Hani, Raymond Mhlaba, Moses Mabhida, Ronnie Kasrils

>First, the denial of Jewish collusion against white interests.
lol I'm pretty sure they were slavs

You forgot Moses Goldstein Shekelberg, notable anti-white activist who declared the ANC's mission is to "purge the beautiful land of Africa from the poisonous white scourge."

>I'm white and my interests surely don't involve supporting the Tsar's autocracy and Apartheid South Africa

You're probably also neither South African nor Russian.

>The truth is, Jews are people who flock to political movements like any other individual does.
Not flock to but are progenitors of. You're not interested in motive, in fact your only interested in disproving (I say that loosely since you only suppose contrary to the evidence) and are trying to obfuscate it into mere chance and happenstance.
>oh they just gravitated to the modern political views offered
>but one cabal focused on destroying the white race or establishing Communism.
They managed to forge an entire nation in preoccupied territory merging from all corners of the globe that was able to take on multiple nations militarily in decade (thanks Murrica).
>we are talking about Jews, not Israel
Half of the world's Jews are in Israel, and yes we are also discussing Israel.

>The truth is, Jews are people

I already proved the Jews hand picked Mandela, funded the operations, and even provided the training area. Of course they wouldn't dirty their hands, thats why they used the blacks.

Marx was a protestant turned atheist, Lenin was from an orthodox family and the ANC was formed by largerly native South Africans.
The fact that many Jews joined the Bolshevik party doesn't prove that they're part of some conspiracy. Heck the Latvian people's joined the Bolshevik party in far more disproportionate numbers than the Jews bu you'll never see poltards talking about that.

You did not. Like I said, you named some Jews here and there, most of them didn't really do anything.
Are you suggesting that le evil Jews started their plan to destroy white South Africa already in 1942? You're a paranoid psychopath, sorry.

>Marx was a protestant turned atheist
Marx came from a long line of rabbis, his parents converted outwardly due to German laws preventing non-Christians from practicing law, and Marxism borrows heavily from Hillelism.
>Lenin
A leader who was a collaborator and figurehead so the Jews could bury how Kamenev, Trotsky, Zinoviev, and other Jews held more power.
>Latvians
Weaker political party than the Jewish Bund and an excellent example of how the Jews use minorities against the majority populace, much like they did in the US and South Africa.

>so the Jews could bury how Kamenev, Trotsky, Zinoviev, and other Jews held more power
Well they did a fucking awful job of that when the whole "Jews did 1917" thing has been around since 1917

>Lenin
>Figurehead
I have no words.

>A leader who was a collaborator and figurehead so the Jews could bury how Kamenev, Trotsky, Zinoviev, and other Jews held more power.
Thanks god, for Stalin, am I right? I mean, NKVD under Russians was more brutal and deadly than GPU under a Jew, but who cares?

>Are you suggesting that le evil Jews started their plan to destroy white South Africa already in 1942?

>Afrikaner nationalism and Nazism had common roots in religio-nationalism and Pan Germanism and therefore the racist elements of the former were easily assimilated into the earlier.[citation needed] For example, Afrikaner criticism of the capitalistic system inter-war period was quite anti-Semitic.[9][10] Many Afrikaner nationalists also viewed a Nazi German style strong government as necessary to protect the volk. Just before, and during World War II, these sentiments led to the appearance of a number of pro-Nazi Afrikaner nationalistic organisations, such as the Ossewabrandwag and its paramilitary wing Stormjaers.[11]

Bye bye user.

I don't see your point.