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Whats the meaning of life Veeky Forums ? Whats the point of lifting, if nothing can take away your emptiness and your sadness?

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To fight for your country in the upcoming white revolution.

My country is not worth saving.

I don't have emptiness nor sadness

Maybe if you got some hobbies and moved out you'd feel the same way

The meaning of life is to be comfortable and to gain awareness of things around us. We lift to be comfortable, we lift to learn discipline, we lift to be aesthetic, our determination will prevail and live on even after our physical being is done. We will have helped progress life and all the consciousness in the univers will gain from us striving to gain more. This includes knowledge, the want of understanding everything. you cant only dwell on 1 or the other. If you're just a body, then you lose who you are and all the meaning behind your actions. If you're all brain, you wont be able to have the confidence to put that brain to actual use where it counts and also you wont live as long due to the natural decomposition of the body. You'll either get fat and die, or stay skinny and small and frail that nobody will take you serious, not even your self.

Lifting for aesthetics or functional strength is all good I guess.

But I lift because it's the only time in my day when I'm truly happy, because I'm in control. It's me vs. gravity; me vs. my precious best. There's something primal about using and increasing your strength. It makes us feel alive. Nothing outside the gym matters. It's just you and the bar.

It's my religion. It's my meditation. It's my escape.

there isn't one
go on an adventure

Came here to post this in a less fedora way

Basically lifting is the only time of the day when I absolutely don't think of her at all. And as a bonus I get a tiny bit bigger and stronger in the process.

It's me vs the barbell. Sometimes I win, sometimes the barbell does. Simple, easy to understand, fair. That makes it nice.

>less fedora way

That's the thing...it starts as an escape for thoughts of her. Over time it becomes a way to escape everything. I thought about her for my first 9 months or so...since then it's literally everything els. School, work, finances, everything.

Lol at people thinking lifting can be compared with meditation... For fucks sake people, read some books and stop regurgitating what you read on the internet

At first i really thought about this question but once i stared working i realized you kinda just walk and move than go to sleep and do it again the next day

you people need some therapy

The meaning of life is memes.

What's the big difference? Not the guy you're quoting but I lift and I meditate and do all kinds of pretentious mental bullshit and it's all pretty similar in my experience. Breath in, breath out. Squat down, squat up. Repeat.

if you are born handsome, tall and decently wealthy life is bliss
as in, you get to put your penis inside hot women

"What is Zen?" asked a novice monk.
Master Hyakuja replied, "It's like riding an ox, and seeking to find it."
Said the student, "After we understand; then what is it?"
The master replied, "It's like riding an ox, and going home on it."
Asked the student, "Then, what do we do with it?"
"It's like an ox-herd who keeps it out of other people's rice fields."

To look better than people you don't like for that ever fleeting sense of superiority.


And God damn do I fiend for that like crack.

That sense of superiority is only in your own mind though, and for other people it just comes over as you being smug and insecure. Women prefer ottermode above ripped-mode, don't forget that.

No I mean not my peers I mean. I mean the fat, middleaged cashier who gives you a jealous look. I mean the co-worker who no one else likes but have to tolerate. At least I don't look like them lmao and deep down they know that.

crush your enemies
see them driven before you
hear the lamentation of the women

I'm fat as fuck
lifting helps me become stronger and lose weight.
it also allows me to zone out for an hour or so and clear my mind.

These threads cannot be real. If you're a man, wake the fuck up and realize that all men are alpha males. What's happening right now however, is that we have nothing to stand for.

I invite you, OP, to stand the fuck up for yourself. Life's not over yet, get moving.

To grow as a human consciousness, first away from this planet, then into the galaxy, then beyond it.

Your role in this process is important, as we move through this age, we must trim off the dead ends of evolution (niggers and jews). We must remove liberals, we must create a better monetary system that acknowledges automation. So that the next few generation can comfortably go into space to kill aliens.

Ultimate goal is escaping, or trying to escape the heat death of the universe, if that is even a thing.

Unrelated, but does anyone know who draws these?

To amass enough resources to feed and protect your family (wife and kids).
Biology says so.

Omg, you're one of those ignorant fools.
Not the user you replied to either.

>muh books are better
>internet=lies
>paper=truth

Fuck off with your books. Its old, and a dead technology. The Internet and electronic books are far better than a paper book. For instance: mass produced books can't have a typo s fixed without recalling all of the books that were released, but still some will linger out and happen to be picked up and read and looked at as "fact". Its a great way to spread misinformation and keep the new proven information quiet. On The internet, you have a vast array of articles at your fingers, you can find alot of conflicting information and alot more than one point of view on a single topic. Also if new information is found, revision of the information in the article can be fixed or added in and spread to the majority of the world within an hour.

Please, do tell me more how your books are anymore infallible than my Internet articles.

Whew, I didnt expect to see an user who shares my opinion somewhat.

Well I too thought of something

>do we still need books to be wholesome people in this day and age?

The answer to that is no. Books are nearly completely redundant. You can learn much more efficiently if you just stick with research journals.

Philosophy is also dead and was replaced with science, with neurology more specifically. Knowing how the brain works, and how it interacts with our cognition, with our language is a hundred times more useful to us as humans than the ramblings of a bunch of random neuron clusters that went out of control (philosophy always was a dead end)

But then I thought deeper about it, why do we need classic literature? What purpose would that give to a person compared to a scientific journal on biology, on food, society and the fabric of our reality?

What good is there to know who shagged whom a thousand years ago and for what reasons?

A thousand years ago most people were illiterate dirt farmers, they didnt have hadron colliders, they didnt have proper tools to measure stuff. They were basically an even shittier version of modern day brazil. They were third world nations who struggled to produce anything of value.

So if we do not listen to the stuff that a bunch of latino's, niggers or aboriginals produce these days. Why the fuck should we care what a bunch of dumb faggots were doing a thousand years ago? There were only a handful of figure heads from those ages who really stood out. The rest were just basically dumbfags.

So I dont think that we really need old literature anymore to function properly. Most of the old information has a very low amount of truth in it, something like 0.2%, compared to nearly 50% of modern science.

cont.
But the worst part of it is that people will still call on me like I am a troll or something. That this is unreasonable, that to be civilized you NEED "thing X". They have not really realized how much society and humanity changes. How our evolution is still ongoing and how it may bring in new things that work better than old things.

But all of them are too cowardly to think beyond. Stuck in their history fallacy of books.

Your picture is about scientific research papers, and has absolutely nothing to do with what I mean by books. Internet articles are far more subjective and further more condense the point the writer wants to get across, which is not always a good thing. We are becoming dumber and dumber because all people do is read titles of articles, and form their opinions around them. Not such a good plan, most websites who publish articles are heavily propaganda'd too, with books, it's more objective, and more in-depth.

Also, read back my post. I never implied "paper" books. That's just what you made of it because you want something to argue about just for the sake of arguing, or, you actually forgot how to read.

>Hows living in a 3rd world shit hole ?

Thats just dumbfags being dumbfags, it does not matter what kind of medium they cling to, they will always dumbfag it up.

But the scientific method, and the journals on themselves are much more efficient in giving out information. First of all they are usually much shorter, while the content is all about the findings.

Books are usually the opposite. They are fucking fat as shit, and 99% of the content is completely irrelevant to an important thing, discovery or system of thought.

Books are basically just non schizophrenic word salads for dumbfags.

Ah yes, the typical "Everything is either zeroes and ones"-mentality that the western world is plagued with. Pro-tip: There are things science cannot answer, and will never be able to answer. It's not the truth.

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Watch this, it's educative.

Can you write sentences without swearing? I feel bad for all the people with the attention-span of 5 seconds.

Make your own meaning dorkus. No one gives it to you.

its not plaguing western society at all, if it was plaguing it there would be no fatties in the 70% of the population, since they would have been able to count their goddamn calories.

If anything, we need more of it.

Also your proposition and outlook into life is completely and utterly wrong.

Life is a bunch of zero's and ones, a bunch of numbers. There is no soul. We managed to alter consciousness, personality with drugs, with lobotomies, with diets, with parasites, with lead and much...much more.

The brain is directly tied to this reality, as is your perspeption. To pay no homage to it, that is the real cancer of the human mind. Just a remnant of evolution more or less.

Thank god your kind is slowly dying out...as you are not able to count your calories...haha...dumbfags.

>scientific journal
>thing X may be bad in quantities, for person type Y
>probably should avoid it or something, lol I dunnu, ur a fag
>5 pages

>book
>well maybe thing X is bad, but did you know about thing Z, and thing W? I have absolutely no proof about their connection but here are 300 pages of things broken pattern recognition perceptions that makes me think that they are like eachother because I have nothing better to do in my life and lack the proper tools/methods to measure anything

The scientific journal these days wins every time.

>be sexually "abused" for the first 13 years of my life, not by adults but by older children including my brother.

>introduced to porn at a very early age and had an addiction to it from the age of 9.

>When I got to highschool I had 0 friends from intermediate, especially because I had moved around a ton so I had like 0 friends before then too.

>Family was very poor while my single mum went to university and she was dealing with a midlife crisis pregnancy and a divorce.

>I developed depression and anxiety, mixed with the wrong crowd and ended up failing in school just because I didn't turn up to classes.

>I was then bullied and even attacked by a mob of highschoolers, some were even the new "friends" I had made. Had 3 relationships that all went to garbage and extremely abusive.

>couldn't go back to school, any school.

>try to commit suicide, am saved by one single person.

>live life for the next 5 - 6 years with no life goal, just waiting for the next moment I am confident enough to kill myself.

>skip to 2013

I met someone who was going through what I did, I help them out. We end up being best friends for a year, we end up loving eachother, really, really loving each other. My life is full of colour, energy and happiness, I could never think about suicide ever again. Of course I am still progressing in a lot of areas though because this life is all new to me. Like how do I even into life properly again? I started going to the gym this year for the extra boosts and to rid myself of the leftover anxiety. I'm not saying a relationship is the answer, but making it is being happy with the short time you have to experience it.

also we're getting married soon.

>take away your emptiness and your sadness

It does while you're doing it. It also does when you're talking to people who are admiring you. It also does while you're fucking a girl who thinks you're a stud. It also does while you're doing things that you'd only do because you have the confidence that all of that yields.

Even if you feel empty at the end of the day, you get a lot more opportunities to forget about it if you're doing productive things.

So much hate and judgement in your post, but i'll reply anyways, in the hope that you see the errors of your way since one's reality is the result of one's intention and attention.

"Life is a bunch of zero's and ones, a bunch of numbers."
I don't agree, but it's easy to think this with our ape-brains. Every human being has access to infinite consciousness, but through the five senses is delineated, keeping us trapped on a material plane. We think reality is what we can apportion through the limited instruments of the senses, but reality is ofcourse far beyond that. Spiritual data for example, we dont have the instruments to receive it and live primarily in the realm of the senses. Anything that we're describing through science, we're describing through the prism of the five limited senses. Our eyes can only see between infrared light and ultraviolet light. There's light bouncing around everywhere. Our ears can only hear a tiny decibel range, can't hear the noise of a dog whistle, can't hear any high pitched frequency sounds. Isn't it likely then that there are other vibrations/frequencies/energies/conciousness, moving through the universe?

>Every human being has access to infinite consciousness

What a load of bullshit dude, kill yourself. I didnt even read the rest of your post.

You are totally like one of those obselete, broken perception humans.

Instead of modeling your brains to the reality that is outside.

You ignore the reality, and model the inside of your brains on random neural connections, most obsolete.

I am glad that in the next cycle of evolution, there will be a whole lot less people like you.

It's hard to explain when you haven't "seen" it. It can only be felt. I recommend you pick up meditation and read some of these books atleast:

1. Man's Search for Meaning - Victor Frankl
2. The Teachings of Ajahn Chah
3. Biocentrism - Robert Lanza's Theory of Everything

Its not my problem if people read a title and make a decision. Whats going to stop them from doing the same with an actual book? The image is how you can evaluate the articles presented and Make a rational judgment, based on the information provided.

You did imply a paper book is better than internet/electronic books.

>For fucks sake people, read some books and stop regurgitating what you read on the internet

Im not sure you know what implying means.

>What a load of bullshit dude, kill yourself. I didnt even read the rest of your post.

Welp, then that's the end of it. Can't discuss if it's a one-way discussion. I've been mistaken to think you were atleast mature enough to atleast read what someone writes.

Yea its called drugs, read up on the various things that people have felt while on drugs. Or on the things that psychiatrists did with patents by putting electrodes in their pleasure center parts.

I can 100% guarantee that with the proper tools and the proper experts, with proper access to your brain, I can alter most of your emotions.

But with your mantra bullshit you cant do jackshit. You guys are full of crap.

That is why you are sitting here being useless, and while the science guys in various fields are sitting in phat offices, making mad dosh.

People like you were made obsolete a 100 years ago, and in each generation cycle you were made smaller still.

I am pretty sure that I may be the last normal person to talk to one of you demented fossils.

What is making you so upset? You've invested and read so much into science that you've created an unrest in your brain, a chaos. The answer doesn't lie there.

ow the edge.

You know they're not wrong, if you actually took the time to read into things you could at least come to an understanding. Instead you're choosing to be ignorant to something that is actually valid and has solid evidence in the unknown. The way you speak makes it sound like the universe is just the universe and that's all there is - when actually you're the stupid one here. Where is the universe? What is the universe? These are all valid questions and none of them we can answer because we literally aren't capable of it. It's the same as being able to create more colours in our imagination right? It's impossible to do it. But do other colours outside of the spectrum exist? Absolutely, because the visual receptors in our eyes or other specied on our planet can't possibly be the only kind to exist in the universe. We barely know anything about our universe, so what's wrong with accepting that there could be an overlay/dimension over our universe that we just can't intercept or understand. We're just humans who have limits, we will never be able to understand anything beyond what we're capable of - but we can accept that at least this much is true.

...

*also I understand you completely my man.

You've read it all wrong then. "Stop regurgitating everything you read on the internet" was meant for people who get most of their knowledge and information from websites like reddit, Veeky Forums, other forums.

Books are either paper books or e-books, doesn't make a difference...they have the same content. Not sure if you're trolling on purpose or actually thinking that I meant that.

lol your narrative doesnt work dude, I do not feel any of these feelings. You are like an ant asking a horse how depressed it must feel for not having any sensory antenna's.

You know why I do this? Because I enjoy shitting on your soul. Just as I hate niggers, jews and mudslimes. So too do I hate dumbfags like you. I like to bully you.

My dick in your mothers cunt is where the universe is you fucking retarded mongoloid.

Yeah..welp, I give up, can't really argue with meatheads on here. I have nothing to prove either, just hoped that I would make somebody see atleast.

Maybe utilize the vocabulary you been given and make sure you dont leave any possibility of misinterpretation. Its not that difficult to articulate yourself.

Im sure more than just myself thought you were referring to paper/ink books being better than anything you can find online.

>lolol they are medhads becuz they dont subscribe to my /x/tierophile horsecrap that makes me feel important (socialization tools for the low IQ's)

I also post on /g/ and on a bunch of other sites that love science. You are actually quite unlucky to have come across us as we are rare on even Veeky Forums

While you lament over your low IQ things on the planet, like a bunch of kids in the kiddy pool. We wrestle sharks in the ocean (carefully manage our mental capacity through various methods involving diet, exercise, hormones, foods and more)

Avoid carcinogenics, Alzheimer and cancers etc. in our environment (cant even count how many more average years we can get to our lifespans compared to you)

I also win in running competitions. Bodyfat is getting lower. Dont use any medications or drugs. Life is pretty good for my body.

and while I am doing this I also just like to shit on your souls and be a dick, because I can. Because fuck you fuckhead.

I'm the one who compared lifting to meditation. Just saying I get similar benefits.

>tfw started a Veeky Forums nerd battle
>dude posts on /g/
>as if there are other boards besides Veeky Forums

Im actually lolling out loud on how insecure you are and how much you want to "prove" to others.|

"look at me im so smart, youre so unlucky to have across ME, the king of the universe, i wrestle sharks blabla i look after my diet, exercise, hormones, food blabla carcinogens. I win in running competitions blabla my bodyfat is getting lower"

I do all of those things too, btw. You're not smart, you're not special, one day we will die, and that will be the end. I mean are you really so oblivious to yourself? It's nothing. It's empty. That's what i've been trying to tell you :) Read books my friend.

You're so insecure that you refer to yourself as "we", like you ARE /g/, a board on a mongolian drawing forum. Congratulations, I see through your veil of confidence, you're empty like every other shit on this planet.

You have to be really dumb to think that the best lifters, the guys who are best looking are not also smart. To diet well, to eat your macro's and to select all the other stuff that you need to get for a good physique is not an easy thing to do.

There is a whole industry out there full of products who are made for retards who think that they can get easy gainz, with shortcuts.

But the biochemical system of the human body is even more complicated than most programming languages. Most of it also unexplored, so most anons also need to be very well versed in scientific methods, in critical thinking...to reap the most of new research and the best truth.

There is no room for /x/ophile tards like you here. Our fatpeople hate threads are basically all anti you. There are a lot of people who outright hate you here and your bullshit, some are aware of it, like me, others just attack your even more crazy outliers.

But deep down Veeky Forums hates you and wants to remove you. Go play pretend philosopher with the fatties who think that they can jewish nihilism (critical theory) away what it means to be healthy and good looking.

lol, your type of person. I hate your type of person, you guys are so fake and so full of yourselves, even to this point you are trying to maintain some "le friendly friend guy" appearance when its clear that you are just passive aggressive. You cant even say faggot to anyones face.

Well I can, you fucking fagget. Why dont you kill yourself.

You've used the word hate so much by now, I think you really need to re-evaluate your life. Got real life problems? problems at work? problems with your girlfriend? family issues?
Work it out, man. I'm only passive aggressive because I don't want to stoop down to your level of insulting. I think you can still be saved ;)

lol, its always hilarious to see the little ants look up and then try to "evaluate" what is wrong with someone who is not quite like them.

The only one who has issues here is you, and they are called brain issues, more specifically: you being really dumb.

What have we done?

I can literally say the same thing about you, remember, you're the ignorant one, and ignorance is bliss. So it makes sense.

While you are typing, I am imagining a person who is nearly drooling on his keyboard from all the dumb.

>durrr words hurrr durrrr

you ingrate

There is no meaning, now stop whining. Get strong in preparation for the coming revolution. Find somebody to spar with, learn to shoot a gun.

More hate, i'm out, this ain't going nowhere, you're not in for discussing, only call people dumb, and you think you're smart and need to prove yourself.

>It's me vs. gravity

>durrr hurrr look at me I am meaninfulls and poo on my keyboard hurrr durrr

congrats user

That's just your excuse because you're a lazy and terrified little pussy. If you had the determination, if more of us had the determination, you could make your country a place worth saving.

>Commiting suicide BEFORE killing your shitty family
low test 2bh

the answer is to praise God. like it or not God does exist and if He did create us then if we don't worship him we will always feel at loss.

you could definitely have hobbies. try something new but after a while it will get boring. everlasting peace will only come from the remembrance of God

Zen meditation is not very useful and most of the existing zen organizations are literally cults or scams of some type.

The last people I would look for wisdom from are Zen practitioners.

>mfw

What's the one where you end up giving your organs to the Chinese government?

I just lift so one day I can bee myself ;^)

lol this picture gets me everytime. feel a bit sorry for the doge tho

>Whats the point of lifting, if nothing can take away your emptiness and your sadness?

The goal is to lift as heavy as possible to eventually injury yourself.

>get injured
>have real problem
>stop crying about abstract shit in your head
>learn a lesson to live up after your injury is gone

This. I love going to my local bar every week and everyone complimenting me on how great I look while my ex is still there being fat.

To be happy and content with your life.

The meaning of life is to be happy and feel good about yourself. Don't be afraid of anyone and trust yourself when you are. Do things for yourself and don't intentionally fuck over other people...no one is perfect. Do nice things because they make you feel good, not because you feel obligated...you don't have to save the world. Also lastly being the best individual who can accomodate most others bullshit is more useful than standing up for them.

Good luck senpai, stay natty

It's ignorant to think that everyone must follow a God.

Just because he is the center of your life does not mean that so too should it be theirs.

People are complex, user. There can be happiness in anything, with or without a God. That's how strong the human will is, it can believe anything.

Good books were written by smart people. The majority of what you read on the internet is written by retards.

Philosophies are built on hundreds of thousands of years of iterative thoughts. You're right in a way that it's a "dead end", in that it sort of ended with nihilism, absurdism, existentialism, but you're wrong if you think that there's nothing to be gained from it over reading straight science journals.

Without philosophy we would be like muslims living in the dark ages.

Hundreds or thousands*

To live a life with these three things in conjunction with one another: meaning, morality, and pleasure

emptiness and bliss are the same
be empty
experience emptiness as emptiness
all is empty
it's beautiful
be that
don't hide or run or change
don't imagine or create or destroy
everything is perfect and nothing is really here
it all vanishes before the Eye of experience
comes and goes
clouds in the sky
stay as the sun
find your true being
what sees all this?
what sees the idea of that which sees this?
go deeper, let go of all concepts
drop it all
keep dropping
drop drop
sploosh

either you don't actually lift or haven't been lifting very long or you need medication.

I haven't met a single fit person that's depressed. if they are it must be chemical. fix your life, not your body. you are probably procrastinating through lifting.

Maximize happiness, minimize unpleasantness.

Sometimes to max out your happiness across the longest amount of time possible you have to make life unpleasant for yourself ( ex. I just got back from an hour long run in 90 degree heat).

For 3 years or so I was a very severe alcoholic. While you do see an initial happiness spike when drinking it teeters off after a while and soon your happiness dips below where it would be sober. Tack on lowered life expectancy and it quickly becomes apparent that addiction is a sub-par path to happiness.

Before I was an addict I was a somewhat high level long distance runner. Running brought me happiness but I was often sad- I made a mistaken calculation in taking up drinking, now I no longer drink. But I do run. Fellowship, love and meaning round out a happy life. Find someone to love, someone to be your friend and something to do that you can get lost in.

Everyone dies eventually. Between now and then you might as well have a good time.

I would recommend stoic philosophy. Marcus Aurelius is a good starting point.

I am a law abiding non-white in a white country.

TFW I will be hanged in the purge.

Depends on what side you're on and what ethnicity you are.

Better to serve in heaven than reign in hell

What if Life is God's Meme?

I think you're right. Doesn't mean I'm selling out though

life has a meaning only if you give it one
if you don't, like most of people, it's only about surviving until you reproduce, like an animal (which we are)

You have to go back

what if I am comfy in my bed playing video games?

Find something/the conditions to make yourself happy. Some people are meant to be miserable though. No matter what they do. You might be one of them OP. So FU. I am 30 and still living with mom with a shit job. But I am happy as fuck. So what gives. :D