/nootropics/ general

New to this shit, do they work or are they just a meme?

Looking at aniracetam right now.

Massive meme

If they worked, everyone would be a corporate magnate.

Ephedra, caffeine, and adderall will make you focused. "miracle brain pills" will not.

modafinil is fucking legit. only one you need and should buy. everything else is bs.

>If they worked, everyone would be a corporate magnate.
If working out worked everyone would be jacked !

What about Adrafinil? Apparently it's converted to modafinil in the body.

Or so I've read.

correct, though i have heard adrafinil is not as powerful because its already synthesized. stick with modafinil, buy it online (i can give a legit website if needed), and that shit will make you laser focused, smooth, and clear headed (not amped up like cocaine amphetamine adderall shit-tier drugs).

Everyone would be pretty jacked if they actually dieted and programmed properly

>keeping a daily exercise regiment is just as easy as taking a pill!
You're either fat, retarded, or both.

The only nootropic that I actually felt something on, outside amphetamine based, was pramiractem. But then I read something about its supposed neuro-toxicity and Noped the fuck away from nootropics since then.

Hey, can you tell me that website. I would love to use modafinil, but it got refused for prior authorization when I attempted to get it through my doctor to be covered by prescription.

Sorry, I meant it got refused for prior authorization by my insurance when I got my doctor to sign off on the prescription.

it doesn't take any effort to pop a pill senpai

The best nutrients for your brain are choline and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) and you can get them from food. Just eat a lot of egg yolk, organ meat and oily fish. There's no need for expensive nootropics

mod up dot net is legit. the owner of the site is also popular on reddit and gives really good customer service.

No shit, you're supposed to take the pill then do something productive not take it just so you're less of an aspie throughout the day. It's not a fucking party drug, you take it so you can get shit done as efficiently as possible.

Whats a good pill to keep me from panicing around girls?

>Just eat a lot of egg yolk, organ meat and oily fish

Sorry m8, I don't want high cholesterol and heart disease.

You're right, but it's not a good comparison. A good comparison would instead be:
>If steroids worked, everyone would be jacked.
This emphasises that you still have to put in work to get results, which is the case for nootropics as well.

Vodka

Different stacks work for different people. Experiment and your best bet is r/StackAdvice for stacks that have worked for others. I use Onnits Alpha Brain because it does what I want it to do for me. I also use Lions Mane to prevent numerous mental illnesses. I will be experimenting with racetams soon

Nootropics
>5g Piracetam
>750mg Oxiracetam
> 300mg choline bitartrate
Supplements
>4g Fish oil
> 30mg Zinc
> 100mg Zinc citrate
> 3mg Melatonin

Diet, exercise and sleep are most important though. The whole idea behind nootropics is to improve brain function lower toxicity and increase your memory. Very different from amphetamines and modafnil, which I do not recommend taking. I have a Vyvanse prescription but I seldom take it; I just sell it to my classmates(easy 200$/month). Amphetamines are pretty neuro toxic and honestly are only good if you're doing meaningless shit like rote memorization or cleaning. Doing math / physics and cs is pretty shit while on them because I find that they make me very tunnel visioned and unable to think abstractly.

tldr; Nootropics improve brain health, amphetamines are good for being a zombie and fucking up your brain.

>This emphasises that you still have to put in work to get results
Then why not just skip the modafinil and do focus/memory training?

There's not a single study out there indicating nootropic agents have long term cognitive benefits on the average brain.

I use 200mg huperzine-a and I felt like I could feel a difference in the first couple days, but after a while I couldn't. I stopped taking them and immediately felt sluggish and had grown to rely on them without realizing.

What a crazy week.

It only gives long term benefits if you do things on them that benefit you long term, such as memory training.

>Running
Improves brain health on many fronts.
>Meditation
IIRC improves brain composition
>Quitting porn
Realigns neural-circuitry and dopamine sensitivity, normalizes general operation. Shifts energy away from limbic system - the reptile brain.
>Semen retention
Mineral accumulation and production.
>Sunlight
>Chaga mushroom
Melatonin.
>Green powder supplement
Green Vibrance my goto. I don't take it daily as recommended, but twice or three times a week.

Phenibut helps a little. Alcohol helps a lot.

Dont make the same mistake i did. Dont fuck with ypur brain chemistry. There are no free rides, and if something is too good to be true then it probably is. If you want to get smarter read books and use dual nback.

Bullshit meme by redditors.

Only adderall, ritalin etc work.

/thread

Theanine & Caffine works for calm alertness.

Modafinil works but its not worth it in my opinion.

Even if you are taking it in the mornings it will ruin your sleep. The next day you will have to take it again just to get out of bed. Eventually you will become a walking modafinil zombie. The shit keeps you functional but you definitely are not at 100% capacity.

I've been playing the nootropics game for years now, and there is one substance I would ever recommend, Semax. And even then I think it should only be used sparingly, maybe a few times a month.

Sleep is the most important nootropic out there. If you feel like you need nootropics, its very likely that your sleep habits are shit.

>believing bro science

go away

>2016
>still falling for 1950s-1970s lobbyist party line

As I said, why not just do the memory training?
Brain exercises HAVE been shown to improve cognitive ability, so why conflate their benefits with the effects of nootropics?