Feels

damn son

On one hand:
>bulk is going well
>all my lifts (especially bench) are skyrocketing
>people started commenting on how big my back is
>sent away an application for a uni that wants me even though I was a druggie drop out

However:
>cancerous "friend" trying to slither his way back into my life
>feel anxious about going anywhere without this "friend" accosting me (he's a genuine sociopath and abusive)
>having trouble sleeping because I don't know if I got into uni
>the lonliness of trying to be drama-free (aka sexless, gfless) is finally catching up to me now that I want comfort

Every time that life looks decent, someone or something comes around to make it a fucking hassle, even when you're an introvert. EVERY FUCKING TIME.

story bout that friend?

>get promotion, go out for drinks with teammates and old boss who left
>had a great time hanging out with the guys
>wake up next morning and hit lmao1pl8 finally
>they all went for round 2 today and didn't tell me

my life is a rollercoaster and i want off it

Same shit here, every time I feel like stuff is going my way something comes along and fucks up my day

Damn dude any idea why they decided to not invite you?

Close to the end of my cut, thinking of adding 2 more weeks. Not enough ab definition so not fully satisfied but I want to gain again.

Also just made a meme homemade tapioca pizza.

Fuuark that looks restaurant tier

i think its because its a pokemon go thing which im not really interested in..

... doesn't mean i don't wanna hang

I've known him for years, I felt sorry for him when he went through hard times and he stuck up for me a few times. He's always been a dickhead but most of the time it's funny or he is genuinely nice sometimes. The story is far too long to tell without writing a book so I'll summarize recent events:
>He purposefully feeds me drink so he can film it and tell everyone about the shit I did when I was drunk (I was an alcoholic)
>When I offer to let him stay at my place he decides that every choice I make is wrong, makes it a point to highlight every thing stupid I say
>He breaks a things, saying they always needed fixing and tells me how to fix them with tools I don't have access to
>Constantly has to one up me, but only me, around my friends
>Owes me a lot of money because I helped him out when he got fired for yelling at his manager
>When I comforted him about getting dumped he purposefully embarrassed me in front of my friends
>After that incident I've blanked him for like half a year
>He shows up at my work the other day like nothing's happened (he lives hundreds of miles away at the moment)
It's rattled me so much. I genuinely feel so fucking insignificant around this psycho and he just pretends nothing ever happens.

Wanna know how I'm holding up?

>turkish coup last night, hope
>coup is lead by retards
>man in toilet manages to get the braindeads out on the street listening to mr "SEELLAAAAAMMMM M ALLELLSLEELEEYYKUUUUM"
>man in toilet single handedly stops coup
>bombs outside my house constantly and i died inside
>my grandma had a heart attack
>tfw your country that you once loved is half full of braindead cunts
>tfw erdocunt is prob gonna be supreme leader now
>suicide?

Ah don't stress it, at least it's not like they're deliberately avoiding you they know you're just not in to man child activities

If even half of what you have written is true then you need to drop him.

Restraining orders aren't just for crazy ex situations. Just saying.

>girl I like rejected me
>tons of other girls hitting on me
>cant even fucking dance or anything with them

pls hold me guise

Hey at least you guys can keep buying that sweet Isis oil

Nah, just leave m8.

Wouldn't know the first thing about how to get a restraining order, or fund the damn thing. I just need to tell him to piss off, which is difficult to a mental guy 20kg bigger than you, but the timing of this is just fucking with me so much.

>3.5 year dry spell
>was turning it around
>got injured, stopped dancing, stopped lifting
>now recovering
>still not back to where I was yet but at least things are heading in the right direction
OTOH:
>might not be smart enough for my career
>still in a dry spell, not attracted to any of the girls in my current circles, tentatively morally opposed to online dating
eh.

>tentatively morally opposed to online dating
Yeah its bullshit, would not recommend

I've used online dating with a picture or some random from /soc/ to practice particular types of conversations.

Yes, i'm aware i'm never going to make it.

How did it go?
I mean ive never tried online dating because the way i see it its a waste of time, youre not gonna get any replies and youre not gonna get dates

Oh it went pretty great actually, minus the part where it's based on a fabricated persona.

I have learnt 3 very universal things in my delving (universal in my experience that is)

1: Women want to feel smart and even if you're not smarter than them and act with authority on a subject they'll generally follow

2: You'll get honest responses if you're direct in every way in regards to what you want.

3: They really are not smarter than men, i mean that in the nicest most factual sterile way possible, women are built for kids and loving them.

I have done this so far under the personality of:

>progamer
>concept artist
>investment banker
>working a simple trade looking for kids

Main thing that was different between all those things was without doubt the wanting kids part, no matter what feminism wants to lie to people about telling women you want kids is a gigantic plus i've found whether they admit it or not.

Thats very interesting actually
I had a debate recently with a friend where i said wanting kids shouldnt matter since i think girls ar every hard to get into bed
Seems prudent that you have sex in order to get kids and well you see my logic, if girls are uninterested in dating/sex why should having kids matter

Guess ill have to reevalue my belief then

I can't.
I'm not going to let my nation die like this, but when once Turkey was a progressive advanced society it has turned into a bunch of idiots supporting a cunt.

I genuinely plan to join the military again and kill Erdoğan.

Oh dude yes, if the girl is all MAN LMAO FUCK KIDS that's a gigantic awooga warning sign of many potentially bad things, most people who are worried about kids/hate kids really are suffering from issues in their own childhood.

I live in a pretty non destroyed by feminism/liberal area though, so your mileage will definitely vary on the girls.

I guess thats a warning sign sure but i dont connect the dots really
If girls want kids they can have em, guys litterally beg to fuck most chicks but i dont really know what the fuck is going on nowadays

I wonder how the "I hate guys and dont want sex" mentality will cope with the "I want kids" mentality...thats gonna be fun to see

>Oh it went pretty great actually, minus the part where it's based on a fabricated persona.
This t b h

I mean, I worry that it wouldn't go very well for me, but if that were the only thing I was worried about I'd be a lot more willing to try it, fail, improve, and so on. But the atomization and artificiality and general Houellebecqian qualities of the whole deal are JUST

Sorry bro, but nationalism is retarded. "Your nation" is simply luck of the draw of where you're born and which particural group living withing which imaginary lines got to indoctrinate you as a child.

I am all for living for and pursuing higher ideals. Science, arts, peace, social change, correction of injustice. By all means, dedicate your life to those. Make an impact. Die for those if you have to. But don't do it for imagined human concepts such as nations which are on the grand scale meaningless. It used to be Byzantine Empire, now it's Turkey, eventually it will be something else. You have one life to be successful in, don't let shit like that hold you back.

Girls are not hard to get into bad. Girls consider guys on sexy and dangerous vs stable and safe. When you're close to sexy you find it piss easy to fuck chicks but struggle to maintain meaningful relationship that has depth. When youre stable and safe you can have more meaningful relationships but the sex just aint there.

The key is for a chick to understand where her sweet spot on this continuum and when the guy's behaviour and sex drive matches that they have good stable relationships.

The problem of course is that guys tend towards extremes and girls notoriously lack self-awareness to recognise this dynamic.

im depressed i just wanna let know all my fans that my mom controls my whole life it sucks shes my legal guardian by the state of the court it sucks i dont know what im gonna do i have to maybe take her to court and do something about it i dont know shes controlling all my money my whole life i have no freedom im so depressed i just cant do anything i have no money no nothing im extremely extremely depressed she only gives me sixty seventy dollars a week i hate my fuckin life i have no girl no girl in my life who who cares im just stressed out
peace out bye

İ can't let what Atatürk did go down the drain.
İ'm a Türk and İ must bring pride to my- even OUR name, İ have friends here, a lot of them, İ do it for them.

İf İ was in the military coup İ would have fucking shot all those street walking fucks and ran them over with no remorse. Even if İ was told it was a drill or something they all deserve death if you saw what they did.

B r e h s . . .

Looking nice and juicy, 19, 5'7, Virgin, just end my existence

Fell in love with a girl, and she is also in love with me. on the downsight we are both overweight.

>Being brain washed this hard.

Must be nice to have 0 Standards.

Just fuck each other till you're skinny.
Sorted.

I'm at 215 down from 230 two weeks ago. That's a little over a pound lost per day.

That feels fucking great. So does the fact that I finished the first day of the couch to 5k workout, despite my body telling me to quit constantly with bullshit like fatty gut itches, leg itches, fake shin splints that never developed into shin splints, etc etc. I even tried convincing myself my heart was giving out, but then I took my pulse and was well below maximum.

But then I go and start lifting.

My maxes are worse than in high school. How do I get past the embarrassment of lifting the bar? I want so badly to build myself up, but the low rep count and low endurance really get at my confidence, especially when I used to be able to swim across entire fucking bays and bike 20 miles in a day.

How do I not hate myself enough to keep with it? How do I put the shame away?

Just look at the feminists in their mid 30s who have gone past the point of no return, they're the ones spitting more anti man bullshit than ever, constantly escalating.

The baby ache women in their late 30s/early 40s get when they miss their chance is horrifying to behold.

Yeah.. I don't have that high standards for girls.

Will try to have her exercise more and eat less.

We all have to start somewhere. If you can only bench light weight just bench light weight theres no shame in that. Keep your mind on your longterm goal, you'll make it.

Thanks, double 26s.

>on my way to leaving skellytown
>pectus excavatum
>psoriasis
> Even if i make it i won't look good
Hold me

The way to get girls is by not giving a fuck about them
Flirt with all of them, except for uggos and fatties, and you will succeed. Girls funs it charming if you are a flirty guy, unless you look creepy- in that case you are fucked anyway. If you flirt with all the grills, then at least you have a chance of one being successful. The key is not to care about them and not to get attached- just think of them as men, but with vaginas, that way you will not think of them as above you.
Also most importantly, do not let a girl take over you, if she doesn't like working out, do not let her stop you doing it, and dump her if you need to

True words to live by.

Guess im the safe and stable kind then, sadly
I look good and manage to flirt alot but i cant pull girls like i want to but i did manage to maintain relationships exceptionally well

I seriously wish it was easier, like i see pretty girl. walk up and start talking, if she thinks im attractive we fuck and maybe more
If not then we move on
Right now its a circus with all the girls being in relationships if they have a single redeeming quality and the single girls are hot and cold all the time, varying between rubbing their ass on your dick and talking about marriage to being super dismissive and non-talking

Well sure, but they are retarded and like you said they missed their chance
They had men drooling over them and every chance to catch one but they were too good for it, now its too late so i understand their bitterness completly but it sort of helps my point
Most girls seem very anti-men even at a younger age and it only gets worse as they get older, guess the "I want kids" thing turns into bitterness instead then?

But the thing is they are not men. They are less than men. Thinking of them as men is putting them on a pedistal.

>The way to get girls is by not giving a fuck about them
I never did get this
If i ignore them i stay alone, if im alone how am i supposed to make it with girls?

started talking to the woman of my dreams again (only through text) she hears I've gotten "jacked" from all my dyel friends and asks to see, show her a couple pics and she loves them, for a while she was showing genuine interest in me and responded almost instantly but now she's gone back to not texting back as fast.
I have so many other options with other women who are hotter than her but I want only her Veeky Forums what the fuck do I do

Lifting wise? Fine.
Other than that
>landed a decent job but have to interact with people again so I'm constantly drained
>barely have energy to go to the gym
>nothing excites me anymore
>started day drinking again
>existential crisis at least once a month
If my parents weren't in my life I would have killed myself already. I can't put them through the pain of burying a son.

Quit expecting instant responses. It makes you look desperate, and no matter how jacked you are that insecurity will show. Have your own life, and let her be a part of it if she wants to. She can't be your whole life, and if it looks like there is even a chance of that happening she will back out.

>"I love you user, you have half my heart, but my husband has the other half."
>"But you have ALL of mine."
>"I can't choose user, I'm sorry. Not right now."

F-fine.

I coulsnt agree more, u smart.

Keep going duder. Starting weak is nothing to be ashamed of.

>If my parents weren't in my life I would have killed myself already.
Fug IKTF

desu if it weren't for my parents I'd probably be working a dead-end job, blasting gear, and occasionally fucking hookers, repeat until death.

Probably need to cut? You are medically obese. With that much fat you could see results with just dieting

>Reversing the beetus
Good job bro. Bet that feels great.

Legit changed my life to

Other women are more worthless when compared to the worthles one that you wanted. I know that feel see

Not giving a fuck is not ignoring them. Not giving a fuck is being outcome independent.

Imagine you meet the perfect girl. You decide to approach her and try to get in her pants. Posibilities are playing in your head. Best case scenario is that she is perfect for you, everything goes smoothly, you start dating, get married and have 2.4 kids and die happy together. Worst case is she slaps you.

When you are outcome dependent (give a fuck) you hope for the best and think way too far ahead. This showcases neediness. It also sets you up for failure because no realistic outcome is as good as your imagine best case scene. You also fear the worst case (slap) and imagine how this scene can ruin your life or whatever. You give too many fucks, you are too invested and you are guaranteeing bad outcome before you even take the first step towards her (lets face it, you don't even take the first step because being this much in your head causes analysis paralysis).

Being outcome independent (not giving a fuck) means that you go into the interaction ideally not even imagining those scenarios. A girl has piqued your interest. You're genuinely curious to know more about her and explore what an interaction with her brings. Your only goal is to enrich your life by adding yet another interesting experience to remember when you're reflecting on your life. If you imagine worst and best case scnerio you imagine best as potential wonderful experiences you might have with her and you imagine worst as being a funny story you tell your buddies (or even the next girl that comes along, I've done that). That way, whichever outcome happens to pass the experience is positive and nothing bad is even possible.
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Oh, protip. Redefine success in a way that ensures success or failure is solely within your control. In the above hypothetical scenario success isn't fucking the girl. Success is making the move (approaching her) and bringing your genuine personality accross. Her response does not matter. If you made the move you were successfull. Understand that there is no controling for everything (maybe her pet died this morning and no matter how smooth or Veeky Forums you are she is not open to you do to her grief). There is no point defining success in absolute outcomes when not all facets of the outcome is within your control. You are not "conquering" the girl, you're conquering yourself.

I had a one week romance with a meme queen tumblrista feminist (who has a significant following). One of those insane throes of passion things where there's a very fast connection, we were finishing each others sentences it was getting that gross, but unsustainable speed and constant 24/7 contact led to burnout - one day madly in love with her the next like a switch, nothing, just back to normal. Pulled the plug, she turned out really nasty in the fall. Felt bad that I didn't feel bad for a while, then hit a down patch where it all caught up with me and I missed her. Better now. She just really needed a lot of contact and I like my alone time. Probably didn't help she was 25 (me 22) and was probably feeling the clock tick a bit.

Now going way slower with this other girl, things are nice and simple and cute and refreshingly sparse - whole days without contact. So feels are good for now, I just hope I can keep my cool and not seem too needy - lot of past paranoia about girls liking me and in the last one it was incredibly validating to have almost constant reaffirmation of just how highly the other person thought of you, even if it was terribly codependent. Just low self esteem stemming anxiety I guess. Beats being depressed I suppose? I taught the new girl how to squat and bench the other day and she went for a run with me. that was cute. I guess I have to just remember the open compliments shes given me like how she loves my body.

I am suicidal at the moment. I've only tolx my mum about this. My mum has dealt with a lot of shit and to make her bury her son would be tragic - yet I feel like I will go through with it anyway. I am far too selfish to not kill myself just to not cause people misery.

My pain is constant and sharp and I do not wish for a better world for anybody.

Shit I remember all this stuff from when I used to be in to that gay pickup artist shit. I forgot being outcome independent though - it is truly something that is required for not only interacting with women but life in general - if you do not have expectations, and go through the motions, letting life lead itself, then you will ultimately be happier.

A girl that got away started snapping me again.

Feel really fucking torn and playing games makes me feel worthless and only gym is keeping the dread away, but i can't be at the gym every day.

What do i do.

if you're going to do it, move away first. Go far enough and with so little of a trail that they wont find a next of kin. Buy a car off craigslist in cash in a new town, ditch your ID, just disappear. Another John Doe in some backwards police dept database or just another number on a major metro system.

But first, go to a fucking hospital ER and tell them you are suicidal. Much as you might hate to hear it, you are sick and you need treatment, and as much as the thought of recovery rather than oblivion appalls you, there is a higher power, call that morality, call that god, call that cold hard logic, that tells you that it's the right thing to do.

If you try, and I mean really fucking try, to get better - Doctors, Shrinks, Hospital ER's, Meds, Crazy fucking ayahuasca treatment in south america, electro shock therapy - and nothing works? Fine. Accept you're a dead end.

Just leave your fucking mum out of it. She doesn't deserve that.

Those things feel like heaven.

Thats...really insightful user
Im gonna redefine how i do things and set social goals from now on, seems this is why i think i fail too much because i dont try
Thanks

my gf found some random nudes I saved from 4chin on my laptop. She's a bit prude. Not sure if we get together again. Not sure if I really actually care. All that connects me to her are our pets. Apart from that, I had the best workout since weeks today.

Yeah, pickup guys use this, but it's just basic psychology. You can read more about how we self-sabotage by imagining future emotional reaction and misremembering past ones in Stubling on Happiness by Daniel Gilbert. The stuff about controlling the thinking self is based on Acceptance Commitment Theraphy.

I kinda flirted around with her best friend a bit too much maybe.

Tfw girls keep fucking playing their social games trying to trick you into shit. FML

All I want is HER even tho we have almost nothing in common and she isn't even that good looking.

There's no way to kill yourself without your parents finding out, sad but true.

don't suicide
you'll make it for sure

>tfw when you constantly think about her
>you're probably not even on her mind

I'm doing pretty well actually
Big plans for the week
I'm flying out of Colorado in the morning and I;m headed to California for a business trip. My company is paying for the flight, rental car, hotel stay etc...
I'm pretty fucking happy about this btw, It will honestly be a first time for me in a hotel over 300$ a night!!! The thing I'm worried about is gym time and keeping up with my macros. I'll be in a hotel and working for the week in Cali and will try to at least get to a gym 2-3 times this week. Not sure If i will make it, but I gotta find a 24 hour fitness somewhere in south california

m feeling pain in my gyno'd nipples...

>decide to get fit as fuark a year ago
>going great now getting mired every day by qt grils on campus swim lanes
>decide to get on tinder and not be a kissless virgin at 23
>meet a girl thats perfect personality wise and 8/10
>get drinks last night and everything is going well
>shows me a picture of her dog
>tinder app icon is near iphoto picture
>257 notifications on it

I don't even know what to think. I'm probably just another tiny cog in the wheel.

you just realised that women have much more choice when it comes to sex/relationships, and especially with apps like tinder (sex orientated)

congrats

now don't fuck it up, she went on a date with you so go fuck her up

...

>how you're holding up?
Well I feel like the more I put into myself the further I get from the rest of society. I used to have a lot of friends, a gf, get party invites and people would actually like being around me. Now I've gotten accepted to a good uni, become gymregular strong, cured my acne, have a part time job and I got real hobbies but people just seem to dislike me more.

One of my friends actually told me that being around me makes him feel like shit. He says that they don't wanna ask at which uni I got into cause they know I got into a great one. They don't wanna ask how my job is or what my plans for the future are cause they feel worse about their own lifes by that. He said that the whole group (the last 5 friends I have) in a way just wanna stop being around me cause I make them feel like shit just by being there. He said they've even tried that but they just feel more like shit cause they think I'm a nice/funny/smart person and I don't deserv to be frozen out from the group. They know I have no other friends and will just sit at home browsing /b/ all day if they leave me.

I thought getting Veeky Forums and working on selfimprovment would make people like me more but instead they hate me for it. I've tried getting new friends but it feels like they either hate me or make me their fucking idol. I went out to a bar with some beta guys from highschool that's gotten into the same uni as me and all they did was asking me if I could bring some girls to our table or tell them how to get invited to parties and basicly asking "how can I be cool like you?" questions. They don't understand that I get less pussy then them, get less party invites and basicly just want friends that doesn't hate me. I tried getting some girls to the table but girls dislike me just as much.

Right now I'll keep this selfimprovement up and hope things get better but if stuff doesn't change by the time I'm 30 I'll probably just kill myself.

I've gotten to the point of lonelyness that I'm thinking about paying a prostitute to go on a normal date with me or watch a movie with me at my place. The only thing that's stopping me is the fear of her asking me after the date how come I need a hooker to get a date

Fuck this feel. I don't want to think about her anymore, it's been 2 years already.
Almost everything reminds me of her, the memories trigger so easily, it's ridiculous.

Most of my thoughts consist of what booze I'm gonna buy so I can fall asleep with no problem later, at what time I'm gonna go to the gym, suicide and her.

Anyways sorry for venting, wish you the best breh.

>Started lifting nearly 4 months ago, going to the gym 4 days a week
>Eating according to a food program
>Got results at the gym and muscles have grown a bit but I'm not getting any slimmer and weight is about the same
>Idk what to do
>Feeling depressed

Nervous and lots of anxiety. Nothing related to lifting or grill tho. So, meh.

Think of envy as a form of compliment. Whatever you do, don't sabotage yourself so your losers friends can feel better about their shitty lives.

Anyone been in this situation?

>fucked around for about a year with only some noob gains to show for it
>started lifting seriously just a couple months ago
>tfw stuck at lmao1pl8 bench because I don't have a gym buddy
>tfw no friends either
But I'm almost at lmao2pl8 squat after only 45 days of lifting, so that's something.

Been working out for two months or so, making steady progress in all categories except OHP. Starting to feel muscles forming more and more where I didn't have any, so getting excited.

On the flip side, I'm starting to really miss having a gf and someone to talk to all the time. If I'm not at work or the gym/running, I'm sitting here on Veeky Forums or playing shitty computer games to pass the time so I can go to the gym/running/work. I'm fat though, so I can't really change the girl situation.

4 months is nothing, man. Remember that big guy in the gym that squats 3 plates for reps? He's been doing it for four years. Don't give up. What you have to give up is the new year's resolutioner's attitude.

Oh you know, nothing special. Tfw no gf is always there, but I've been making sweet gains in my squats.

Hi Nathan

That's pretty fugged. Maybe try and meet people who are into the same shit? IDK, my closest friends lift and study various martial arts and teach themselves skills they think are cool or renumerative and so on, so it works out well.

(It'll probably be easier to meet people like that at college, too.).

I don't mind the time and I love going to the gym but it's just making me question if I should change something about how I work out or eat , as I just want to lose weight and I'm not able to...

Atm I'm 6 feet and 198lb and weight just stays the same

My current gf was a virgin when we met
She wants to fuck more than I do and is pretty accommodating to trying freaky shit out