Hypothetivally...

Hypothetivally, ow would have the Czechoslovak army fared against the Wehrmacht had been forced to invade (if the Munich Agreement never happened and the Sudetenland wasn’t ceded)?

On paper, the Czechs has some of the best infantry firearms of the interwar period (ZH-29 and ZB-26).

Also numbers on their tanks and Air Force would be useful in this discussion

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The Germans would have taken heavily losses regardless of whether they won or lose, and the Oster conspiracy would have proceeded, possibly leading to a coup of Hitler.

Germans wouldn't get through. Also I'm pretty sure Polacks would gang up on Germans as well.

Infantry firearms don't do a whole lot in wars.

G*rms would win but it would be very costly and embarrassing for them. It would be remembered as "the Nazi Winter War". There's also the slim possibility that Poland would side with the Czechs, in which case the survival of Nazi Germany would be at stake.

I don’t even think the Germans thought this

Their exposure to Soviet semi-automatic and automatic weapons was a strong reason for the StG44

>if the Munich Agreement never happened
Czech had some of the heaviest, most sophisticated fortifications in Europe, in the mountain regions bordering Germany. The goal wasn't even to stop the Germans completely but to hold them until the French and the Brits fully mobilize and attack Germany from the west, and they were more than capable of doing that.

Germans may break through at some point but they would take heavy casualties in the process.

Small arms have fuck-all impact on the outcome of wars.

>In a speech delivered in the Reichstag, Hitler stressed the military importance of occupation, noting that by occupying Czechoslovakia, Germany gained 2,175 field cannons, 469 tanks, 500 anti-aircraft artillery pieces, 43,000 machine guns, 1,090,000 military rifles, 114,000 pistols, about a billion rounds of ammunition and three millions of anti-aircraft grenades. This amount of weaponry would be sufficient to arm about half of the then Wehrmacht.
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Air Force
>~380 B534 (250 ready, rest reserves)
>60 SB-2
>60 AB-101
>39 A-100
>~150 recon planes (mostly Š328)
On par with Poland, while being better fighter-wise, weaker bomber-wise.

Tanks
>300 LT35
>50 LT34

B534 was far inferior to the pz.11. I agree on bombers though. Artillery and tank wise czechswouldve BTFO the germans who mostly had pz.2s at the time.

this

the meme of early war Panzers being good is laughable at best

>[SCREAMING]

>B534 was far inferior to the pz.11
what the fuck
B-534 was the second best plane in the world after Bf-109 by the 1938

>B534 was far inferior to the pz.11.
No, not really. Pz. 11 was inferiour in armament, speed, climbing, power/mass etc. They were comparable planes. Main difference was that Poles only had 180 Pz.11.

B534 might have been the best biplane. But it was still just a biplane.

There were still things like Spitfires, Hawks or I16.

>A shitty early 30s design biplane with a

>couldn't exceed 370km/h.
late models could reach 406km/h
>But it was still just a biplane.
Morane-Saulnier N isnt better than Fokker D.VII just because it is not a biplane

They could've severely stalled and held out the germans if it was the germans alone.

Yet there was a high chance that both MUH TESIN poland and germanophile faschist hungary would've invaded czechoslavakia also if the germans invaded.

Actualy there were plans to make minor clashes with Poland and Hungary to make Romania and Yugoslavia+ USSR join the war.

Even then germany would've had the advantage in CAS aircraft(HS123 and Stuka), however B534s could've easily shot them down assuming they used hit and run attacks like finns used against soviets.

Also how sophisticated was german air escort doctrine in 1938? Did they let the bombers fly unescorted like soviets?

>A shitty early 30s design biplane
How was it "shitty"?

>Pz. had equal armament
Most of Pz.11. had only 2 Mgs, most of Avias had 4

>and could reach over 400km/h while the B534 couldn't exceed 370km/h.
Avias had max speed of 405 km/h. They also had stronger engine (848 hp vs 645 hp)

>Small arms have fuck-all impact on the outcome of wars.

that's like saying grain has no impact on food
yeah sure it has no vitamins and can't really sustain you on its own, but its a staple tons of shit is built around
though i may just be being a retarde

>Yet there was a high chance that both MUH TESIN poland and germanophile faschist hungary would've invaded czechoslavakia also if the germans invaded.

Polish intervention would be unlikely and the Hungarian one is taken in account by everyone that knows Hungary exists.

>How was it "shitty"?

Compared to contemporary monoplanes with exceptions to French ones.

Pz11s had 4 7,92 brownings. it was Pz7 that had 2.

However Hungary also had a comparably powerful army at the time and could've diverted a lot of czech troops over a wide front.

Yeah, sure in a war where the enemy have fucking spears, but not where both sides have similar weaponry

>Also how sophisticated was german air escort doctrine in 1938? Did they let the bombers fly unescorted like soviets?
To be honest i dont know, but Huns had extreme lack of modern planes in 1938, more than half were still obsolete biplanes and they had only about 120 Ju-87s. They also had bombs, ammo and fuel only for about 1 week of fighting.
To tactics, sadly hit and run wasnt part of the Czechoslovak doctrine and we instead expected to use maneuvers against the Germs. Czechoslovak airforce had the best maneuver and acrobacy training in the world.
Hungarian army was a meme until 1942

+1

The difference between a garand and a ppsh is pretty moot when there are 1000 tanks driving around.

>Compared to contemporary monoplanes with exceptions to French ones.
Nah, compared with contemponary german Bf109s, they weren't "shitty".

>Pz11s had 4 7,92 brownings
1/3 of them did.

>Hungarian army was a meme until 1942
How so?

Not in urban, forests or other CQC environments.

>Nah, compared with contemponary german Bf109s, they weren't "shitty".

The BF-109Bs and Cs were superior to the I-16 and Hurricane which were superior to the B534

Hungary had about 85k strong army in 1938, both Romania and Yugoslavia could take them on alone.

wew, they definitely dodged a bullet by not invading

>The BF-109Bs and Cs were superior to the I-16 and Hurricane
What are you basing this on? Combat experience or parameters? I was basing mine on technical parameters.

See:
>alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-messerschmitt-bf-109-b-c-vs-avia-b-534-in-1938.369032/

>anti-aircraft grenades
?

Presumably a quirk of a translation. Probably refers to exploding shells meant for anti-aircraft use

Having to fight the Czechs at full strength and a Poland not stabbed in the back would have bleed Germany enough that they never would have invaded the USSR.

Flak?

Yes