Hey guy, I was betrayed and sold by someone I really looked up to

that's what you get for trusting a kike my man

remember to vote trump

>this is what /pol/acks actually believe
o im laffin

Hahahahahaha

if you think you're welcome here then you're very very new

Eat whatever the fuck you want, just remember to vote for the Donald coming November

why are you so angry, young man? Is it because you refuse to lift?

Don't tell people what to do, you silly twat

There's tons of lefties in Veeky Forums, we just don't typically see the need to shove their politics down your throat on a fucking fitness board.

Relying on state "redistribution" of wealth and "protection" directly opposes the lifting mindset of self improvement and personal ownership.

It's almost like my views for how society work are different to my views on how I want my body to look.

Sorry, wasn't aware I have to interpret everything under the same mental framework even when they're not remotely comparable.

I knew Sanders had sold his soul to the devil for any votes he could pander for, when he said "You don't know what it is like to be poor if you are WHITE". He is the Senator for VERMONT, home of poor WHITE farmers... FUCK YOU BERNIE... FUCK YOU...
Stupid fuck that he is, he thought he could pander some Black votes from Clinton... every one knows Clinton's OWN black America.

Fuck you! Bernie.. FUCK YOU!!

You better go eat at a decent restaurant. Remember, white people don't know what it's like to be poor.

>eating salads
what kind of sissy faggot are you? is your idea of fitness eating salads and crunches? go read more women's health magazines, faggot

Quote cherry picking is a bad path to go down when you support Trump, you don't want that technique used on you.

"I was with young people active in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and she says, you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about everyday activities where police officers are bullying people. So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car. And I believe that as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear. We will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system."

Okay.

>being a faggot socialist cocksucker
>b-but I lift so I'm not a Redditor, guise!

Nah I'm a full blown commie son, socialism is for wusses.

I bet you'd steal another man's gainz you sick bastard

I just don't think that a man's boss should be entitled to take a proportion of his gains.

>not wanting to help people less fortunate than you
>alpha

pick one.

Well as a white person who lives on the edge of the "hood":
You do not know what it is like to have to lock your door and set your alarm EVERY time you leave the house, you don't know what it like to have to put everything you won under lock and key ALL the time, you don't know what is like to have cars drive by at 2AM BLARING music so loud your house shakes... Unless you are white and raise in upper New England you don;t know what a PAIN IN THE ASS it is moving to the South and living next to a black community.

In my youth I can not recall EVER having my house door lock or ANY of my friends houses.. we left our bikes on the lawn. In my ENTIRE childhood I can recall only seeing the police DRIVE down our rode ONCE.

>it's a "newfags believe they're in charge" episode

>all these buzzwords
put the trip back on, sol invictus

>thinks living on the edge of the hood is a big deal

try living inside of one. I feel like the protagonist of I am Legend. There are no other humans anymore.

>If you're into lifting and general self improvement left wing politics were never for you in the first place
So true

>less fortunate
They just suck with money or have no job skills or have more children than they can afford

I guess it's "unfortunate" to be born dumb and unemployable but it's not my responsibility to boost you up with tax dollars

You can just say you don't like people, dude.

And so you oppose people who want to fix those conditions? Kinda illogical bro.

This

left wing and general self improvement are essentially opposite of each other

They say the same thing about /k/ and /pol/

It's like in Highschool when you'd be making plans for the weekend with your friends then the kid you don't really like but are too nice to say anything comes up and starts asking about them and everyone gets real vague.

Uh, we might do something, we'll make sure to call you

Then on Monday he shows up and hears all the fun things you did while he was home alone waiting for a call

Shit... I think I was /pol/ in HS...

Only a lazy faggot thinks voting for welfare is a substitute for helping others, themselves. How many food kitchens have you volunteered at, homeless people have you clothed, or drug addicts counseled in the last 12 months? If you're like every liberal faggot I know, fucking 0. But they still like to "help people" with a nice, easy vote once every 4 years. Statist retards actually think liberal social policies help niggers, too. They dont. They help monsters like Hillary create an army of state dependant drones that will vote.

I'm literally a social worker lol

>And so you oppose people who want to fix those conditions?
No.. the black community is the problem... Black people are the ones who make their own community so horrible to live around. The police are NOT the problem, their fellow blacks ARE. I am all for polite respectful cops, BUT cops are 100% NOT the problem that needs to be "fixed" in the black communities.
The ONE thing liberals HATE above alllothers is the idea a personal RESPONSIBILITY...
Liberals believe that "others" and "past" is the reason for all the worlds problems.

All the racism and economic unfairness, and poor education, etc. does NOT explain why Tyrone will not man up and be a father to his 14 illegitimate children or why Grapesodash has 14 children for 7 different fathers...
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

If it wasn't for welfare my entire family would be dead but I guess that's not enough first hand experience?

There's no fixing it by giving away money
People don't understand the value of a thing unless it's earned
You give a poor person free money and they get a new car, cellphone and sneakers then they are poor again
You create jobs and take away their crutches and suddenly they want to use their hard earned money on things that last like homes, savings and family

I'm fit terms it's like comparing someone who got lipo to a fatty that lost weight and became fit through diet and exercise

It's kind of hard to get a job when you can't even afford clothes for an interview.

What about right wing policy creates jobs? It's all propping up dying industries with no job prospects.

You stupid cucks.
It's poverty that causes all these goddamn problems. Marx was a dumb fuck about a lot of things, but he was absolutely right when he pinned basically everything about the human condition on access to resources.
You can be an ignorant moron regarding human nature and hurr durr about personal responsibility all you want BUT THAT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING. It's just a way to stroke your ego without aggravating your conscience.
Of course Tyrone is a piece of shit the world would be better off without.
Fucking Duh.
It's about changing the system so we have fewer Tyrones in the future. Poverty is a poisonous, vicious cycle that brings out the worst in people. It's societal cancer.
Of course, if you're a Trump supporter you don't really care about having a conscience or a brain. hurr muh strongmane durr
Twats.

Join the military, they'll give you clothes

So poor people should just all be forced into the military? Yeah that doesn't sound at all like some kind of dystopian nightmare.

Trump is a neo fascist. Terrible choice. Better to go with the green party candidate Jill Stein OP > If you're into self improvement left wing politics were never for you to begin with.
And if you give a shit about your fellow man and giving everyone equal opportunity regardless of their situation, then right wing politics isn't for you either. Go back to your containment board.

This this this times a million

Socialists BTFO

>Poverty is a poisonous, vicious cycle that brings out the worst in people.
No.. that is where you are WRONG. My grandparents were poor Appalachian farmers... there was NO crime in our community, the church was filled weekly, and everyone helped each other at harvest time. POVERTY is NOT the problem, ETHICS, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the problem. Being poor is an inconvenience in life, NOT the deciding factor, GOD, FAMILY, COMMUNITY... put these first and life is pretty OK.
MOST modern black children are born out of wedlock... this destroys any hope for a successful black community

Oh my god hahaha

While America has a FPTP voting system, voting third party is kinda dumb.

I mean, it's a bullshit system and it needs to change, but that's the kinda issue that needs to be pushed between elections, not during one.

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Feeling BERNED yet?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Democrats want less rich people (and then eventually less poor people, but they still want government dependence for the gibsmedat vote)
Republicans want more jobs (and by extension more people working)

Notice how these aren't complete opposites.

I never said I was voting for Trump you dumb two party voting bitch

Congrats you made yourself look stupider

>Not two party voting in a system which is designed to only allow two parties to have a chance at success
It's almost like you're the idiot.

>leftists fixing the conditions of the poor

No. History has shown that right wing nationalism is the best way to improve a nations wealth

Remember kids, it's only socialism till it fails! Then you call it state capitalism!

>choosing between a corporate bribe taking warmonger who's going to make shit deals for the common man and get us involved in more mid east war or the self financed buffoon who'll say anything to win AND probably go to war anyway

DOG BLESS FREDDOM OF CHOICE XDDD

Improving a nation's wealth does not mean improving conditions for the poor. They're not mutually inclusive, not by a long shot.

>leave Veeky Forums for just over a year
>come back and it's infested with pinkos who unironically support Bernie and socialism

It's a shitty system, I agree, and the two choices we're given are fucking garbage.

But ultimately, if you don't vote for the one you'd prefer to get into government (or the one you'd hate least, depending on how you want to look at it), you're throwing away your vote.

This wouldn't be an issue under a preferential voting system, which is a good thing to aspire towards, but we're not gonna change that before election time, so for now, strategic voting is the only kind that makes sense.

>Chile
>only country in South America that purged all commie scum
>only country in South America that isn't a steaming pile of shit

Whoah, there is no need to insult Hillary so much.

>bugers from del taco

kill yourself you stupid mother fucker

>Help the poor
>Increase a nations wealth.
The quickest way to increase a nations wealth is to halve everybody's income while keeping the cost of products the same. A nations wealth and the wealth of it's citizens are very very different things.

Are you praising Pinochet right now? Seriously?

>Seriously

Venezuela has the highest proven oil deposits in the world but is a failed state thanks to socialism.
They queue for hours for fucking toilet paper.
Do you think their great socialist leader Maduro has to wait? I doubt it.

I mean state control of the means of production hasn't improved the living conditions of the common man in the long run either

Regulated capitalism with social programs (such as Healthcare, education, etc) funded by taxing the profits of capitalism has proven to be a much more effective system in the real world.

lol atleast get some tasty fast food you disgusting americlap.

>Regulated capitalism with social programs (such as Healthcare, education, etc) funded by taxing the profits of capitalism has proven to be a much more effective system in the real world.
>Literally the definition of socialism.
But that word is taboo and you can't get your head around it can you. Communism is the one that doesn't work.

Pinochet was Stalin tier. I mean sure, he got things done, but I don't think mass murder is a good approach to take for promoting change.

Murder implies killing people which implies that commies are people.

I'm praising Pinochet

He was a hero of the people who stepped in when Allende was collaborating with Marxist scum and about to purge the nation.

Leftists cry b-but he didn't let us have our revolution. We deserve to revolt!

I mean really he was a guiding hand during tough times necessary to hold the nation together and protect everyday citizens from the claws of leftists as the nation stabilized and the economic sector grew.

Look into the Miracle of Chile

National Capitalism is a pretty good system and I wish more heroes of the people like Pinochet would step in to protect us average citizens

Ah yes those 80,000 commies he interred, right.

JFC
>being this ignorant about humanity

You really think the Republican politicians want more jobs? Really?
I'll never understand why people think the Republican party is fiscally responsible, because they're fucking terrible at handling money.

Oh hey, look, it's the guy who thinks that the Roman Empire was a good thing that should be emulated.
Fucking moron.

Of course.
The problem is that the Republican party wants to castrate the regulation and the social programs.

You are literally wrong

Socialism entails worker/state control of the means of production

The closest thing I'm referring to is social democracy which taxes the profits of capitalism to fund social programs.

They are not the same thing

>hasn't improved the living conditions of the common man in the long run either
an unverifiable claim, since we don't have an alternative universe to compare with

I'm talking about politics and economics from a global stage, there's a lot of things wrong with the Republican party.

>thread is literally started by some kid complaining about politics
>people step in with differing views
>DUDE GO BACK TO POL I CANT BELIEVE YOURE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS

This is why no one takes you retarded Bernouts seriously outside if reddit/your college campus

Didn't mean to quote

>JFC
>>being this ignorant about humanity

Black community pre 1960s was noted for the STRONG family life. Long stable marriages with few divorces. Welfare has DESTROYED the black community...
who is "ignorant about humanity"?

80,000 communist and communist sympathisers.
Really just proves how bad the Marxist subversion was, thank god he came along in time to rout it out.

There's a difference between discussing your views and "REE GET OUT LEFTIES".

If people want a board which can be their alt-right safe space, they SHOULD go back to /pol/. This is a fucking fitness board.

>safe space

Funny you try to parrot that buzzword when literally begging other people to leave so you don't have to look at their arguments

Pathetic

The deliberate destruction of the black family unit by the welfare state was carried out by the Democratic Party to create a class that relied on the government and so would always vote for more government, aka vote democract.

"I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years!"

The only people who I think should get out are the people who are telling others to get out. This "you shouldn't be on Veeky Forums if you're a leftie" shit is just asinine, political ideology has jack shit to do with fitness.

Bernie is the political equivalent of a twink

>whining about republicans

Both establishment parties are corrupt and rotten to the fucking core. They've both gotta go. Neither represent the will of the people in any form.

Holy shit, I knew that leftists tended to be pathetic and low test-but this is ebin

>false equivalence
Both parties are corrupt because this is politics. The republican party is far worse.

>looking up to a Bolshevik Jew from Poland

Good goy

that's where education comes in.

I'm not saying give all your money to the dindunuffins and trailer park trash, I'm saying help give their poor fucking kids a chance, otherwise they're fucked too.

The education system in the US is a broken fucking joke, and the only way to fix it is to invest in it.