Sit 60km from Berlin for TWO MONTHS giving Germans all the time in the world to have some fucking dignity and end the...

>there were entire execution units devoted to executing rapists
no there wasn't

What exactly do you think the NKVD detachments were for? It was giving communism a bad name

>It was giving communism a bad name
>giving

That's how party viewed it mate, has nothing to do with personal politics or any other shit, it was becoming a problem this whole "mass rapes" for their liberation narrative

False, Stalin, in a speech given to his generals and high ranking commissars in 1944 said that rape is encouraged.

Only 4 million refugees from east Prussian made it to Germany, out of a population of 12 million

>What exactly do you think the NKVD detachments were for?
shooting allleged deserters

>Berlin
>1944
There was a policy shift after the inevitable results of those thoughts, at least officially, all the propaganda was about liberation of the workers instead of REVENGE after Prussia

This. Red army was one of the biggest mass rapes in history.

>people will desert from a winning army.

german autism senpai

>Two wrongs don't make a right
But nuking and firebombing Japan is okay.

Well they have surrendered, like Germany should have after getting totally BTFO in Poland

you are fucking nuts that's more than total German civilian deaths caused by USSR and Anglo carpet bombings combined

In 1950s a commission led by former Nazis estimated that some 2.5 million Germans were killed in the East. Today it's considered an exaggeration by German historians (they talk about 600.000-1.2 million).

These numbers are wildly inaccurate, for starters East Prussia only had a population of 2.5 million in 1939

That's still a lot of people.

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Most of them survived.

>be a peasant working fields in 41
>4 million autists cross the border and go fucking Carthago Delenda Est on my country killing 20 million civilians, my family included
>get drafted, make it to their own capital
>take boots and watch off a dead enemy
>some other faggot from the unit raped a girl in a barn in that one village
>we are the same kind of evil as the cunts who razed third of our country and killed off 20% of population

If your grand estimate is 2.5 million escaped out of a population of roughly 2.5 million it's not sounding that bad at all

that's a wrist compass dude

Russians were the good guys but they did do fucked up shit

Did he rape the wrist watch?

My my what a porno

this is true

Friendly reminder that no matter which side was "the good guy" in WW2, the Germans and the Russians worked together to invade Poland.

It wasnt a rape. And even if it was, it was legal by the Hague conventions because its considered to be supression, which is legal when enemy makes war crimes in your country. (Kurland pocket)
Not to mention Himmler gave orders to SS to dress in Soviet uniforms and to kill and rape civilians in Prussia to make it look like a Soviet war crimes.

i'm not . Just saying the Prussian casualties were high and it is a tragedy.

30,000 really isn't that high for WW2 civvie casualties, they got off pretty lightly considering

Tragedy is that some survived.

In a debate over “who is worse”, the Nazis were unironically worse because they lost half of Europe to the Asiatic hordes.

Asiatic Hunnic horde got defeated by the Red Aryan Army

Yes, and Adolf Hitler is responsible for this tragedy.

Both were Asiatic of Chinese ancestry.

>Implying Soviets didn't raze half of Europe, axis and allies
>Implying 20% of Soviet population were civilians murdered by Nazis
>Implying USSR wasn't allied with "most evil cunts"for three years

>having non agression pact is the same thing as being allied

>Division of whole eastern Europe is ok if it is signed under a cover of non-aggression pact

>Implying Soviets didn't raze half of Europe, axis and allies
Looted and impoverished, not razed.

>Implying 20% of Soviet population were civilians murdered by Nazis
On Belarus, yes.

R-M was more than just "non agression pact". There was trade, designating of spheres of influence and "brotherly" hunt for Polish VIPs.

>Division of whole Europe is ok if it is signed under a cover of treaty of how to administer the defeated Germany

>let's just let these guys who apparently have a carte blanche from Anglos to take any fucking clay they want take all of Poland and put their army on our border
>OR take half of Poland and Baltic midgets away from them for some buffer
this is a honest to god conundrum, the Soviets were literally Hitler back when Hitler was still kicking, at last I truly see

Stalin was the only person trying to stop them until fall 1938

Are you retarded? How about option
>Let's not arm them, so they will be never any danger to us, and we still will have some buffer as bunch of fucking independent countries.

>Soviet union armed Hitler meme

Nice edge
30,000 is a lot of people.

>30,000 is a lot of people.
Sure, but not comparatively, WW2 was a shitty time

So is 27,000,000 Russians.

>some girl said something about sleeping with Soviets so no one got raped in Germany.

I don't have a brainlet wojack saved so you're just going to have to use your imagination.

>necroing 10 hour old thread to let people know you took an old joke seriously
this is autism

>It wasnt a rape.

yes it was user.

Roasties whoring around to invaders is not rape.

A deserter leaves the military no matter if it's winning or losing

Doesn't make them a bad guy either, sperg.

> le Soviet Union and Nazis are both bad guys meme
> Not Nazis and western imperialists as bad guys and Soviet Union defending socialism.

the commies rapes german women even tho war has ended.Things were really under controlled in 1947-48.

the only way to survive rape is by dating a russian officer.He may rape you,but at least it's better than getting gangbanged by some ugly russki.

Oчeнь хopoшo.

try harder Schlomo

2.5 million was the entire population of East Prussia at the time.
That said, 25% to 50% of the population dying is pretty bad.

>On Belarus, yes.
Oh, okay. Literally one of the lowest populated republics in the Union. Totally the same thing as a fifth of the entire country.
Retard.

The number includes Germans from all of Eastern Europe, not only East Prussia.

IT'S HIM

90% the fault of the retarded Soviet leadership. Casualties wouldn't be anywhere near that high if the retard Stalin hadn't already purged everyone that actually knew how to fight a war.

>its ok to murder 1%4 of republic´s population as long as its not big compared to the rest of country

Ahh, okay.
How many was that? I can't find many numbers. Does that include the Sudeten Germans.

You mean like Marshals that werent doing anythign besides sittin on ass in China?

If someone wiped out half of Wyoming would you say 50% of the US was exterminated?
That's just as misleading as saying a fifth of the USSR died because a fifth of one of the smallest and most vulnerable to foreign agression states was killed.

>The West German government in 1958 estimated the death toll be about 270,000,[8] a figure that has been cited in historical literature since then.[9] Recent research by a joint German and Czech commission of historians in 1995 found that the previous demographic estimates of 220,000 to 270,000 deaths to be overstated and based on faulty information, they concluded that the actual death toll was at least 15,000 persons and that it could range up to a maximum of 30,000 dead if one assumes that some deaths were not reported. The Commission statement also said that German records show 18,889 confirmed deaths including 3,411 suicides. Czech records indicated 22,247 deaths including 6,667 unexplained cases or suicides.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16] The German Church Search Service was able to confirm the deaths of 14,215 persons during the expulsions from Czechoslovakia (6,316 violent deaths, 6,989 in internment camps and 907 in the USSR as forced laborers).[17]

no one ever mentioned 50% brainlet

Yes.
27 million casualties is fucking idiotic, even with supplies shortages. No wonder Hitler got so up himself, he must've though he was fighting literal ants. But no, the poor Russian bastards were being forced into a meat grinder over and over again by some idiot hiding in a bunker hundreds of kms away.
Same goes for Hitler near the end of the war.
>hurrrr just give women and children rabbit guns and tell them to defend Berlin even though it has no chance of working
I understand war is a natural part of humanity, but I fucking hate this abject waste of human lives. Either hand over the reigns to someone who knows what they're doing or know to give up when you're beat. Don't send millions of your own people to certain death because you're too proud to give up.

>27,000,000 dead in a 130,000,000 country
>literally every single family lost a member or multiple members
>hurr Belarus is small

Belarus IS small.
It also had by far the largest Jewish population.
My point was that the experience of Belarus wasn't representative of the entire Union. Ukraine suffered relatively few civilian casualties, despite being occupied for longer.

>27 million casualties is fucking idiotic
>Its Stalin´s fault that Huns acted like a Mongolian horde and murdered every civilian they could

>Everything Goebbels says is truth
The mentality of wehraboos, everyone.

> that rape is encouraged.

And the sources of that are the same as the sources of Ehrenburg telling ruskies to rape every German i.e. stormfag bullshit?

>Let's not arm them
The way american companies like GM and IBM, did? Or the way Czechs and France did later?

Or considering that both anglos and murrishits were dreaming to sic Germany on Soviet Union to weaken them both and crush them?

> so they will be never any danger to us

Yeah, right.

> and we still will have some buffer as bunch of fucking independent countries.

...who have created their own "non-agression pacts" and well fully cooperative with Abwehr. And even if they didn't, they'd hold against Hitler for a whole couple of hours. Such buffer, much wow.

You are either a naive, retarded, or both.

There is an opinion that Stalin didn't have much illusions regarding "allies" and Hitler, and was expecting a war, but he was not counting for allies being that useless at stalling the Hitler from attack on USSR.

Good catch

The women and children wiped out a fifth of Russia's population?

the criminal and violent acts of soviets troops against occupied german population were prohibited and punishable by fucking death

they were never a part of an organized punitive action aimed against german population and if you don't shut the fuck up about I'm gonna go on a tirade about how much fucking restraint the russkies actually showed in the face of what has been done to them and that not even Americans would give a single sunday morning fuck if they fired up the Auschwitz again and started stuffing every single German in box cars

There were no mass rapes in Germany, basically women could only get abortion if they claimed they were raped.So to get an abortion they would say they were raped, thus giving birth to the myth of mass rapes.

>Red army was one of the biggest mass rapes in history.
Nope, Wehrmach raped 10 million women in Soviet Union

As a Pole I can tell you that Soviets are much preferred option than Germans.

This. The Geneva Convention should have been suspended. Oh wait...

Germans shoudl’t have started a war and said they would exterminate half of the russians and enslave the rest

retard

I think he was joking

>meanwhile back in Buchenwald

Maybe if they had surrender to the Germans and not keep fighting under the Judeo-bolshevik banner they would have been spared.

Germans planned to exterminate Slavs.

Jewish lies, Germans we're trying to liberate them from their influence