Operation Barbarossa would have succeeded if the Germans had invaded in Spring, as was originally planned

>Germany invaded Russia

>hurrr durrr Russian winter dindu nuffin
>lets ignore the fact that more germans died from frostbite than from bullets in the initial years durrr

>Third Reich wasn't Germany
>Soyuz Sovyetskich socialisticheskich respublik wasn't Russia

>wasn't Russia
Well it wasn't, Russia ceased to exist with the Bolshevik (non-Russian) takeover. The difference between the USSR and Russia would be like the one between British Raj and independent India.

>The difference between the USSR and Russia would be like the one between British Raj and independent India.

>The difference between the USSR and Russia would be like the one between British Raj and independent India.

>funded by a hostile foreign power (Germany)
>take over despite losing the elections
>cease a massive chunk of land to enemy (Germany)
>murder the rightful ruler and his family
>form a government where majority of officials aren't Russian at all (Jews, Georgians, Armenians, Latvians and Poles)
>persecute ethnic Russians and the Russian Orthodox Church, shit on Russian traditions, detonate churches and cathedrals, murder/exile the Russian nobility, intelligentsia and clergy
>BUT IT WAS TOTALLY RUSSIA BECAUSE IT HAD THE SAME TERRITORY AS RUSSIA!
Get lost brainlets.

>composed of massive Russian majority and citizens of former Russian empire
>Russian is #1 language
>biggest entity was Russia
>BRO U DONT UNDERSTAND

>India was ethnically mostly Indian during British occupation while the Brits were just a tiny ruling class
>therefore British Raj = independent India

>therefore British Raj = independent India
>purposely adding "independent" to sneak your point across
>not realizing that British Raj = India and independent India = India

>countries under occupation are the same thing as independent countries
Okay retard.

>countries stop being countries just because they are under occupation

>funded by a hostile foreign power (Germany)
Funded, not controlled.
>take over despite losing the elections
Irrelevant
>cease a massive chunk of land to enemy
The land was lost by Romanovs. Commies conquered and subjugated much more land.
>murder the rightful ruler and his family
"Rightful" is subjective emotional word.
>form a government where majority of officials aren't Russian at all (Jews, Georgians, Armenians, Latvians and Poles)
Bullshit
>persecute ethnic Russians
Just as Romanovs

If you think that USSR wasn't Russia, then Russian federation isn't Russia either.

>People from the other side of the world conquer land they have no ties to and rule it as they wish
vs
>People overthrow leaders of their own nation and appoint their own ideology succeeding the system but not the people
ITS DA SAME NIGGA U DON UNDERSTAND

>Yugoslavian armor

>People from the other side of the world conquer land they have no ties to and rule it as they wish
That's what happened in Russia, yes.

????????

The people who took over were not Russians and hated Russia. In the case of Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev etc, they haven't been living in Russia for years at that point. Russia was not "their nation".

>The people who took over were not Russians and hated Russia. In the case of Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev etc, they haven't been living in Russia for years at that point. Russia was not "their nation".

>an exiled russian is not russian

Nice fabricated strawman. They hated the monarchy and they were all ethnically Russian, born in Russia, spoke Russian as a mother language and were supported by their Russian compatriots who ended up plunging the country into civil war, not a war between two different nations a CIVIL war between Russians that ended with one ideology wining and one losing and the restructuring of the nation itself under the control of Russian communists. Now fuck off with your semantically vague autism

>an exiled NON-russian is not russian
Fixed.

>they were all ethnically Russian
Stopped reading there.

>I decide who is russian and who isn't
Russia was a multi ethnic state, my autistic friend.

>Stopped reading there
Due to your inability or?

>Lenin
Chuvash father, Jew/Swedish mother
>Sverdlov
Jew
>Zinoviev
Jew
>Stalin
Georgian
>Mikoyan
Armenian
>Trotsky
Jew
>Kamenev
Jew
>Dzerzhinsky
Pole
etc

Ethnic Russians were a minority among the Bolshevik elite.

Yes, and they were all russians, my autistic friend. The same way tatars, ukrainians, bashkirs, etc living and born in russia today are russian.

>DA JUICE
Brilliant, thanks for the input

Nope. They can at best be Poccиянe (subjects of Russia) but they can never ever be Pyccкиe (ethnic Russians).

>spring
>no rasputiza

pick one

Are you implying that the countless soviets all throughout Russia with an astronomic number of members had no ethnic Russians.

Sure, autismo. Please send a letter to the government so they can take away the russian passport from the tens of millions of non ethnically russian russians.

Too bad, we are talking about the USSR during the so called Great Patriotic War. You are wrong on this issue too, but let's focus on the topic.

Now, in order to cleanse yourself of the brainlet sticker, you have to prove Russians were a minority of Central Committee elected by the 18th Conference of the All-Union Communist Party.

>Are you implying that British Raj had no Indians?
It did but the leadership was British.

Owning a Russian passport doesn't make you ethnically Russian you fucking retard. This civic nationalism shit doesn't fly here, stay in America faggot.

>Owning a Russian passport doesn't make you ethnically Russian you fucking retard
Nor did I claim so. It does make you russian.

>>hurrr r yu imblyin durrr
>proceeds to make incredibly disproportionate comparisson because he can't into coherent thoughts without idiotic analogies
Listen retard. They weren't 1st generation Jews, they had integrated and were basically exactly the same as any Russian citizen apart from religion. Also,
>Lenin's father,Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family ofserfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he wasRussian,Chuvash,Mordvin, orKalmyk.[3]
>Kamenev was born inMoscow, the son of aJewishrailway worker and aRussian Orthodoxmother.[2]

lenin's mother's father was jewish, meaning he was jewish by jewish standards

Lenin had literally 0% of Russian blood in his veins, stop being fucking retarded. Also phonecucks should be killed. Not just banned but actually murdered.

>Lenin had 0% Russian blood in his veins[0]
And don't derail the argument pussy

Show me a single ancestor of Lenin that was ethnically Russian, I'll wait.

Jewishness is matrilineal, his mother wasn't Jewish by Jewish standards you idiot.

user... I... I'm not an undiscovered chronicle

>user... I...
Why are you talking like a redditor?

>Jewishness is matrilineal
Hebrew laws were irrelevant in Russia, though.

How would you know

By encountering you reddit faggots every day on here

Let's wait a moment, guys. So, are you telling that the "Third German Reich" is not Germany? I can understand the thing with the USSR not being Russia, but why Germany?

It was ruled by an Austrian, sponsored by American capitalists and persecuted ethnic Germans.

but those ethnic germans put him in power and were the main architects of the third reich

You have to go back

You don't tell me what to do, reddit

You have to go back

probably because most soldiers are killed by artilery

Meh

He tricked them and once Germans begun to see through his lies he usurped power and no one could remove him anymore.

>operation barbarossa would have succeeded if they went straight for moscow
>operation barbarossa would have succeeded if they mobilized their economy
>they shouldn't have invaded russia at all

operation barbarossa woulda succeeded if they invented the ufos a few years earlier

>The republic of India isn't a successor of the Raj
>what is the dominion of india from 1947 to 1950

Can we please stop with the brainlet Indian analogy?