Historical memes you hate

If they were taliban then why do the woman to the right not cover her face?

>The Soviets lost 20 million soldiers
>Vikings were legendary warriors
>The Gothic invasion/immigration was the source of the Fall of Rome
>USS liberty incident
>History is written by the victor
>Apartheid wasn't that bad
>MUH IRISH SLAVES

>Irish and Italians were not considered white
That mostly depends on where you're talking about. I'm Dutch, and my parents still don't consider Italians white.

>Britain contributed nothing to WWII

>The US came at the end of WW1 and did not have any significant impact on the conflict as a whole
>All military objectives in Vietnam were achieved when the US pulled out, therefore the US didn't "Lose" the Vietnam war.
>k/d wiki argument
>k/d as a whole

Can you explain how it wasn't making blacks 3/5 of a person? Asking for a friend....

>>k/d as a whole
why

Maybe Southern Italians. But Northern Italians look fine.

Oh cut it out, Russiaboo. The Cuckmies were strong no doubt- but are you really so vain as to claim that D-Day wasn't a decisive battle or that Russia wasn't getting its ass handed to them so much they practically resorted to a "Qasi-Volkssturm" enlistment policy to get any teen who could hold a jerry can into their ranks.

The first is right, but come on man. Russia was exhausting itself alone and D-Day was at least A decisive battle of the war.

>>History is written by the victor

This one is actually true though. Mao and Stalin are still considered great men in their home countries because they happened to win the war. Meanwhile their opponents are literally fascists Hitlers

>Nelson Mandela was a hero
>Finland was axis
>Nazis were far right/left
>King Leopold II was literally H*tler
>Germany would have won ww2 if it had adopted stumgewehrs earlier
>Holocaust never happened
>Holodomor never happened
>Rome fell because of Christianity
>Lincoln was a hero
>The Sami are the indigenous people of lapland
>Egyptians were black
>Christianity caused the dark age
>Che Guevara was a hero
>Jesus never existed
>Person X was bad because he did thing Y that is considered bad today

>The Sami are the indigenous people of lapland

Who are the indigenous people of Lapland?
Where are the Sami people originally from then?

The corded wares were there before. The Sami come from Siberia, before that China, before that Africa.

It made slaves equivalent to 3/5 of a person for the purposes of approitioning seats in the House of Representatives by state population. It did not make them 3/5 of a person, nor were they considered such in other contexts.

>before that Africa

Wow, I guess literally nobody is indigenous to anywhere, because we're all from Africa

Are we all indigenous to Africa then?

Time to back your bags and head towards Kalahari Desert to our ancestral homeland

It was meant to make sure that states which had large proportions of the population being slaves weren't able to fully utilize the slave population to gain more seats in Congress. It was not meant to say that black people are less of a person.

>Person X was bad because he did thing Y that is considered bad today
That pisses me off so bad. Like anyone nowadays is perfect. You think in 100 years we'll all feel just dandy about eating meat, or exploiting foreign workers? Does this mean 99% of the population today is just evil? Get real.

>USS Liberty
Care to expand on why this is a meme?

>people in the Middle Ages still believed the earth was flat.

>the romans had advanced technology
>1 testudo for every 1000 gauls

>white people migrate to the Kalahari Desert
>becomes new economic and scientific center of the planet in a few decades

Black people on suicide watch

>>>the romans had advanced technology

I dunno roman concrete is pretty fucking good, We didn't have the recipe for it until recently, but it's superior to portland concrete in that inclusion of volcanic ash and lime in the mortar stops cracks from spreading if they form.

Every single meme posted on "/his meme thread(s)", with the single exception of pic related.

>Irish and Italians were not considered white
But that's true. Pretty much everyone who wasn't English was considered non-white.

founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-04-02-0080
>why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
>Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

>"12 million people were gassed to death in the Holocaust!"

>PEOPLE RAISED CHILDREN WITHOUT OVERSIGHT? HOW COULD THEY BE SO STUPID TO LET ANYONE JUST HAVE POWER OVER INNOCENT CHILDREN LIKE THAT

Argument in a 100 years calling it today

>those Mediterrean people? All non-white
>the Germans? Swarthy as well
>well except the ethnicity from that landlocked region whose name our ethnicity share, those are white and have a lot more to do with us than the remaining Germans surrounding them
GodI I hate Anglos.

so do you know who wrote about the Huns, Anglo-Saxons, and Vikings? The butt mad losers.

>t. swarthoid continental
america would still be white today if you orcs had just stayed in europe.

How most people (tonday) learn about it is a meme, seen through the lense of an attack on US citizens by Israel instead of the fuck up by Iftach. It's generally used as a rallying cry whenever a discussion about the Jewish country arise in the west.

Key word: native country
China is still under the communist party and the only people who see Stalins popularity are nostalgic Vatniks and national socialist communists. (Yes that's a thing)
Written by the victor line only serves to dismantle discussions about history, especially war history, and fucking soared once the southern revisionists got attention in the 60's in the states.

You're the biggest brainlet on this board, boy

I'm pretty sure that's a woman (male)

>"people before year X only lived to 35!"
What is the basis of this myth? Average life expectancy where infant mortality is included or what?

Pretty much.

>China is still under the communist party

Victors of the civil war are rewriting as it fits them. Tibet was never independent and Taiwan is a part of China.

>The Soviets would have beaten Germany solo without ANY allied help.
As a russian historian, this triggers me immensely... patriot tankie cucks are fucking delusional.

>LE DURK AGES.

because its irrelevant to whether or not a country won a war

>person X was bad because he did thing Y that is considered bad today
>in the very same post he hates on Nelson Mandela
really makes me think

>people before year X only lived to 35

This x 100. Fucking retarded. And people will eat it up.

tibet was an absolute shithole when it was independent

Yep. If you have someone who dies at 80, someone who dies at 6, and someone who dies at 4, the average age of death for the group is 30.

I could kiss you. Finally reason.

I'm pretty sure putting a gasoline-filled tyre around someone's neck and then lighting it on fire was considered immoral in the late 19th century user...

Make that 20th century, but you get my point.

And why does it matter to know how many people live in an area? To determine a proper representation of inhabitants to have a proportional House, otherwise it makes no sense in legislature of a democratic system.

If there are people that are counted 3/5 of a person for political representation then guess what, that means they are valued as 3/5 of a normal person.

I know burgers love to ignore logic in their political rethoric and pretend you are actually getting away with it but come on, you are.not.fooling no one but yourselves.

Are you saying that bombing churches full of women and children and torturing people was A-OK 50 years ago?

>vikings were anything more than the niggers of Europe who occasionally did some insignificant exploration

Don't be a daft fagget.

>The Sami are the indigenous people of lapland
Spotted the swede.
East-Sweden when?

>Ignoring norse impact in the british isles, Iceland, Normandy, Russia, and the ERE.

Cuz the whites were innocent gud Bois who had no idea that there prosperity came from the exploitation of millions this is also why they cept voting the national party in again and again

unironically true though

>Napoleon was the Hitler of his day

>Those babies voted wrong again lets fucking kill them!

I thought rational people weren't allowed on Veeky Forums

That wasn't Mandela.

Can you not see the problem with the south getting extra representation on behalf of people who don't vote?

>[insert] was the [insert] of [insert country]
I hate this in general use.

Negative impact in all areas.

Because she's a medical student from a Tajik region who was captured and tortured by the Afghan Communists. None of the people in that picture are Taliban. They're all Northern Alliance fighters and one of them actually served as a minister in the current Afghan government.

>>Italians were not considered white
They were considered about as white as Arabs and mestizos today. That is, the government lists them as white, and they're considered white for legal purposes, but the majority of the population didn't consider them fully such. The Immigration Bureau reinforced this by classifying southern Italians as a separate race from northern Italians.

That was just Republican political propaganda at the time because the Irish used to overwhelmingly vote Democrat in the North. Especially in critical counties like New York which were crucial towards a Democratic victory in 1892. Someone needs to make a map outlining the correlation between Irish immigration into counties throughout 19th century and increased support for the Democratic party. Not to mention the fact of them being Catholic was way more outrageous to the common man at the time.

*and increased support for the Democratic party in said counties.

ManSkallVaraSeriös.jpg.

>Lincoln was a hero
>Nelson Mandela was a hero
>Finland was axis
>Nazis were far right/left
redpill me on why these were wrong

Mandela was flawed, doesn't make him not a hero.
Finland was Axis only because of Soviet pressure, still Axis.
Nazis were far right, has very little implications for contemporary politics though.
King Leopold II was actually terrible, but comparing anyone to Hitler is kind of a meme.

>the constitution said all men are created equal, stop being racist the founding fathers made america to be a melting pot for africans and non europeans

mainstream america

who are you quoting?

Lincoln hardly did anything for the war, he was an excellent speaker and lawyer but ultimately he did not help with the war or and people dont like that he didnt free the slaves from the Union. Not trying to say that he should have done certain things but he did not doing anything especially heroic.

perhaps because finland wasnt fascist? I dont really get that one.

Right/Left wing is supposed to refer to economic policies. Nazis had socialist policies very similar to the ones in europe today. In terms of tradional values or xenophobia they werent very different from the average person of the world during the time.

do you not know what thread you're in?

>finland wasn't axis
because they only took the small amount of land in russia that they wanted, and then dug in and did nothing for three years. They didn't really help the axis powers much, and they ended up throwing the germans out of their country in '45.

Do people seriously believe that this was what they had in mind?

as if even a fourth of this number could be accomplished at the time

Imagine the smell

This is actually taught in American schools

>French soldiers surrender at the first sign of war!
>Italians switched sides!
>The Tiger was the best tank of the war!
>Russians used Rush B tactics!
>Japanese soldiers were very honourable and banzai charges were totally needed and not a complete waste of men and resources!
>Americans liberated Europe and if it wasn't for them all of Europe would be speaking german now!
>The UK didn't need the help of the USA!
>The finnish were stronger than russians and won the war!

That's not the Taliban, Taliban got created only in 1994 which is 5 years after Reagan's 2nd term ended.

>Which later turned into the taliban
Only some irrelevant mujahedeen like Omar, the leaders fought AGAINST the Taliban, with the exception of Hekmatyar who was an opportunist faggot not taking a side.

True
True
Partly true
True
False
False, it'd be Russian. American saved Europe from Comm*nism
First part true, second part falsec

All true. So called italians hail from africa my nigger the rest is well documented.

How are the first three true?
The French soldiers didn't surrender and the resistance, though useless, kept fighting.
The italians during WW1 didn't join the war until 1915, when the french and british promised lands that they'd been longing for, particularly Tyrol and Fiume, and Austria was an historical enemy of the country, so they joined the allies;
how is that switching sides?
In WW2, after Badoglio signed the armistice Italy fell into a civil war and italian soldiers fought alongside the germans against americans until the end of the war.
The Tiger was by no means the best tank of the war;
stupidly expensive, flat armour, mechanically unreliable, enormous fuel consumption and excessive weight.
its only good point was the FLaK88.

>mechanically unreliable
source for this? i've always heard that it was the panther and king tiger that were unreliable. wikipedia states that it had reliability rates about the same as the pziv in 1944

>wikipedia
Anyways: the trasmission broke often because of the excessive weight.
This was only worsened by the hard-to-access trasmission compartment, making repairs very lenghty (repair took from 3 to 5 hours).
In cold climates, the engine took over 15 minutes to start.
The suspension wore out quickly once again because of the weight.
That's just a few off the top of my head, if I recall correctly there were also issues with the electric adjusted turret ring.

>Who is Cnut the Great

Lincoln started a useless war that killed close to a million and caused an economical nightmare. He also claimed to do it to free the slaves, but the south was already in the process of freeing the slaves and also he didnt free them in the union, only in the south which makes it very clear why he actually started the war; states rights.

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist who bombed churches full of women and children. He also tortured people for the fun of it. He also ruined the country's economy and crime. He was an african dictator and a warlord but because of white guilt we have to act like he wasnt.

Finland never did anything to benefit the axis in any way. They refused to surrender any jews, they didn't let Germany attack Russia through their own land until the Russians attacked, they didn't help Germany in operation Barbarossa but instead fortified their own positions. They were just leeching from the Germans with no intention of helping them. Risto Ryti (president of Finland) singed the alliance with Germany in his own name, so that he could cancel the agreement just by stepping down as president (which he did). On top of all this, the Finns attacked the Germans as soon as the war with Russia ended. It was all a huge conspiracy against the axis from the start.

The right/left axis refers to economic stance. The nazis were sort if socialist but not really which makes them centrist. They were authoritarian centrists.

King Leopold was just like any other monarch with colonies in Africa. The reason Congo was fucked up, is because he outsourced collecting all the rubber to Africans instead of letting the Belgians do it. The Africans who were collecting the rubber then went apeshit and started killing civilians for fun and hacking their hands off. The Belgians barely knew it was happening.

*A great cunt

>but the south was already in the process of freeing the slaves
What

Leopold 2 was worse than hitler.

>The right/left axis refers to economic stance. The nazis were sort if socialist but not really which makes them centrist. They were authoritarian centrists.

Post purge of strasserists, that is most definitely not true.