Well they actually exist. Even fucking Kuomintang had a presence in modern-day communist china.
China's non-communist parties
Connor Murphy
William Hernandez
Are they really claiming that smaller non important parties that are """""guided""""" by the CPC can have a supervisory role on policies???
This video is so fucking full of propaganda
Parker Rodriguez
Technically North Korea also has non-communist parties.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
mitpressjournals.org
Ethan Perry
Of course it is. It's from fucking xinhua
But that's not the point tho. I always thought that CCP is the only political parties in china
Nathaniel Hill
I've read about the history of these parties, it's pretty interesting. Basically they are remnants of real parties that had political weight in early North Korea (before Kim came to power), modern-day social-democratic party is like a living corpse of the korean nationalist party which rivaled commies in the early days
Connor Gray
The chongdoist party even attempted a military coup after commies were placed in power, they failed miserably and got the same living corpse-treatment, all the higher ranks replaced with commies
Hudson Wood
Most of the 'communist' countries in history had multiple parties, thing is these parties operated within the state structure, but the state structure was pretty much totally subordinated to the communist parties structure, for example the presidents of the soviet union, which there were, go essentially unmentioned by the history books, while the party chairmen were lenin, stalin, khruschev etc.
So are there oppossition parties? Technically yes, but they operate within a political structure that holds no actual power whatsoever, they are completely for show
Jaxson Turner
And unlike parties in, say, DPRK, they are real legacy of pre-communist victory political system (In which every political party in China, including half of Kuomintang defected to Communists). Speaking of Kuomintang, they consisted of very major figures in the Nationalist China, including its' last president, and held senior positions in the Communist government, including the president.
Carson Morris
>held senior positions in the Communist government, including the president.
You mean the prez of kuomintang had a position in the communist government?
William Price
Why didn't Mao exterminate them? Controlled opposition?
Hudson Sanchez
President of Nationalist China, Li Zongren, did not hold any position in the government, but returned to China. Senior member of the Kuomintang, Soong Chingling, the widow of the founder of Republic of China, was a high ranking official in People's Republic of China, culminating with a president.
Daniel Jackson
Mao created a very complex political system, and he didn't technically minded opposition and different factions within it. He was more of a mediating figure at the end of his life, and he held no official position at the top of the government past 1959.
Adrian Foster
They're allowed to exist, they don't have any power.
Robert Bennett
>there are more parties in the North Korean parliament than there are in the American congress
Angel Johnson
Question is why are they allowed to exist at all? You do know that even religious entities in china needed to swear their fealty to the ccp so what makes these non-commie parties so special?
Colton Torres
They exist because all of them held some power and influence in 1949, and communists struck a deal with all of them (well, that's more or less all the parties that existed at all), for better legitimacy and smoother transition and governance.
Benjamin Powell
>muh complexity
>muh diversity
>muh chinese characteristics
>muh 1 billion pop
>muh criticism is allowed but it has to be constructive not disruptive
>muh revolution has never been tried before so you can't know what the results will be
I get that they are in cahoots because they are all brothers with similar interests, however this is all dangerously close to sophistry and opens up loopholes for corruption. No one questioned shit like the construction of 50 condominiums that will remain at least 90% unoccupied for decades, even though it was their patriotic duty to do so despite the backlash from their superiors and various thugs in the government. As China becomes a developed country and runs out of avenues for growth you are going to get a lot of political conflict between those seeking to improve efficiency and those who want to keep the gravy trains running. Corruption a shit, the economic equivalent of the life's work of millions of laborers is casually flushed down the toilet by lackadaisical bureaucrats.
Mason Torres
>corruption
>people treated like shit
Last I checked almost all developing countries had similar problems. Why are you singling china out?
Caleb Lee
>No one questioned shit like the construction of 50 condominiums that will remain at least 90% unoccupied for decades
Financial/investment bubbles are a thing in economies. Chinese government managed to avoid every single international and local crisis so far, including the housing bubble that loomed in the last decade
Carson Cox
north korea actually has a multi party system too
Adrian Ward
Joseph Powell
>Chinese government managed to avoid every single international and local crisis so far, including the housing bubble that loomed in the last decade
They "managed" to avoid it because they are in bubble themselves, it didn't collapsed because China is fucking huge and can support it, but it will collapse. Unfortunately, we are all gonna suffer it because China is the world industry and all our economies depend on them buying and financing.
Now I know doomsayers have been predicting China's collapse since the 90's and are nothing more than conspiracy theorists at this point, but a country really can get away with slave labour conditions for a while until it becomes unsustainable,
Tyler Walker
Make-believe le Chinese collapse: the post.
How tiresome.
>a country really can get away with slave labour conditions for a while
Stop overexaggerating, it's pathetic.
As for the labour conditions, they are better than in similar countries, and improve even faster.
Jayden Cruz
China is close to being developed so it is time to start thinking about cutting that shit out.
That is like being at rock bottom and saying "at least I have a firm foundation".
Caleb Anderson
Mao technically retired in 1959. If you ignore his autism later on, he mostly focused on being a unifying figure in Chinese politics. He’s a big reason why China didn’t have more civil wars.
Elijah Turner
You are actually seeing that very political conflict/social unrest right now.
Xi Jinping and the reformists are fighting the entrenched interests and winning. That’s why so many more officials are getting convicted of corruption and their loot is being displayed on national TV.
Blake Hughes
>They "managed" to avoid it because they are in bubble themselves,
Yeah a bubble since at least 2006 according to this logic. Obviously they are a supermassive bubble that hasn’t burst for 10+ years. In no way could they be just competently regulated.